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Sarah is totheark and this is why. (long.)
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DHawk314 wrote:
You know, I'd totally be with the whole "Brian's dead" thing, I can totally see people thinking that 51 implies it, but I just don't think it's possible. There's way too many hints about who totheark is for it to be someone we haven't met yet. Look at this Tweet for instance:

https://twitter.com/marblehornets/status/49155802149289984

C'mon. Why the hell would Troy have Jay tweet that unless he wants us to guess who totheark is? Just to fuck with us? And some of the biggest examples of this are the consistent hints that A) totheark was involved with the Operator while Marble Hornets was being still produced, B) he was connected to Marble Hornet's production, and C) he knew Alex personally.

Those have been basic implied hints about totheark since Season 1. And the only people who match those hints are Alex, Tim, Brian, possibly Jay, and possibly Sarah. We know now it can't be Jay, Alex, or Tim, and I think it's far more likely that Brian survived then that Sarah, who appeared in one entry, will come back.


what about seth?
i just cant look at any entry with brian in it and then think hes someone producing cryptic crazy videos at home,i mean look at him...how would this be revealed?jay catching him chatting with groupies on the totheark channel somewhere?OH HEY *switches tab* ARE WE GONNA DO IT AGAIN,OR WHY ARE YOU HERE?I NEED A SCRIPT SINCE ITS BEEN A LONG TIME!WHAT DO YOU MEAN YOU MISPLACED IT?WAS IT TAKEN?WAIT WHAT?!..WHY ARE YOU BRINGIN A ROCK,IS THIS SOME KIND OF REQU.....*static*

also,brian was in tothearks advocate,which would be kind of strange,since he only showed up once,and it wouldnt make sense to show up in exactly ONE of his own videos,since we can assume he himself doesnt show up at all,at least without wearing a mask.

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 		It's actually the fact that Brian IS so charismatic and fun-loving that makes the argument that he is Hoody seem more plausible.

You know the MO of an anti-social personality? An inability to care about the emotions of others, a desire to control others in order to get what they want, and a cold, calculated, organized way of thinking, making planning many moves ahead very easy. Sounds like Puppet Master Hoody, right?

Well, you know what sounds like Brian? Despite all of this, almost all anti-social personalities are INCREDIBLY charming and charismatic on the outside. That's how they get people to trust them and do as they say. Brian's not NICE. He's charismatic. You know what other kinds of people are charismatic? Cult leaders.

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SheWhoSlaysMonsters wrote:
I also heard there were OOG reasons why Sarah wouldn't be appearing anymore... Is that true?


No. Actually, we have OOG reasons to believe that they're still in contact with Sarah.

pestoner wrote:
how would this be revealed?jay catching him chatting with groupies on the totheark channel somewhere?OH HEY *switches tab* ARE WE GONNA DO IT AGAIN,OR WHY ARE YOU HERE?I NEED A SCRIPT SINCE ITS BEEN A LONG TIME!WHAT DO YOU MEAN YOU MISPLACED IT?WAS IT TAKEN?WAIT WHAT?!..WHY ARE YOU BRINGIN A ROCK,IS THIS SOME KIND OF REQU.....*static*


I don't see how this would mean it can't be Brian, since this problem exists regardless of who totheark is.

pestoner wrote:
also,brian was in tothearks advocate,which would be kind of strange,since he only showed up once,and it wouldnt make sense to show up in exactly ONE of his own videos,since we can assume he himself doesnt show up at all,at least without wearing a mask.


I suspect Advocate refers to the fact that in the next video Jay got an anonymous tip as to where Brian lived. It's probably to hint at the fact that totheark gave Jay the tip, which just further hints that totheark is Brian.

pestoner wrote:
what about seth?


One of the implied facts about totheark's identity, most specifically implied by "Exit", was that he'd encountered the Operator while Marble Hornets was still being produced. Seth did not. Entry #22 was after Marble Hornets was already canceled. Entry #51 on the other hand, was while Tim and Brian still found it plausible that they were scene scouting.


As for Brian being nice, Seth was just as nice. Heck, look at how Alex treated him. Tim and Sarah were yelling at Alex, but Alex was treating Seth way worse then he did Tim or Sarah, and Seth didn't say a thing. It's frankly surprising he didn't punch Alex in the face. And even after that he still went with Alex into a creepy as fuck basement.

And anyway it's irrelevant, I thought it was assumed that totheark became the manipulative bastard that Hoody is, due to exposure to the Operator. Just like how other characters have become anti-social from exposure. All of them, for instance.
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SheWhoSlaysMonsters wrote:
It's actually the fact that Brian IS so charismatic and fun-loving that makes the argument that he is Hoody seem more plausible.

You know the MO of an anti-social personality? An inability to care about the emotions of others, a desire to control others in order to get what they want, and a cold, calculated, organized way of thinking, making planning many moves ahead very easy. Sounds like Puppet Master Hoody, right?

Well, you know what sounds like Brian? Despite all of this, almost all anti-social personalities are INCREDIBLY charming and charismatic on the outside. That's how they get people to trust them and do as they say. Brian's not NICE. He's charismatic. You know what other kinds of people are charismatic? Cult leaders.



thinking like that about myself,you might be right.
i should start a cult right now.

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 		Wait.... Here's one thing I didn't notice.... In Entry #51 when Brian finds Tim in the room where he had been hiding out, obviously for a long time, there's a while in between when the Operator appears and Brian is dragged away. Then, there's some time between when Brian is dragged away and Alex comes back to retrieve the camera. Why would the Operator be dragging somebody away, and very physically as though they're very heavy? And, another question, if Alex had been the one who had dragged him away, why would he go all the way back to the room to pick up the camera and film the trail he had just made? And, the most important question, why does Alex not react as though there is anyone else in the room? Tim can't be "gone" as well, obviously.

Maybe Alex/the Operator wasn't the one who had dragged Brian away.

Most likely somebody has mentioned this before, but I'm just wondering why no one has mentioned it now.

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SheWhoSlaysMonsters wrote:
Wait.... Here's one thing I didn't notice.... In Entry #51 when Brian finds Tim in the room where he had been hiding out, obviously for a long time, there's a while in between when the Operator appears and Brian is dragged away. Then, there's some time between when Brian is dragged away and Alex comes back to retrieve the camera. Why would the Operator be dragging somebody away, and very physically as though they're very heavy? And, another question, if Alex had been the one who had dragged him away, why would he go all the way back to the room to pick up the camera and film the trail he had just made? And, the most important question, why does Alex not react as though there is anyone else in the room? Tim can't be "gone" as well, obviously.

Maybe Alex/the Operator wasn't the one who had dragged Brian away.

Most likely somebody has mentioned this before, but I'm just wondering why no one has mentioned it now.



i was looking for this post,since you mentioned you posted it twice,and at first glance it seemed to make more sense than the post in the other thread,but then it didnt,at least not to me Smile
whats your point?what makes you think the operator dragged the body away?and what makes you think he couldnt?because hes large and thin?
stereotypical thinking!you better dont sleep tonight!

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 		No, I think he DIDN'T drag the body away because he's an interdimensional being with the ability to warp time and space. Why would he choose to slowly drag Brian away?

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SheWhoSlaysMonsters wrote:
No, I think he DIDN'T drag the body away because he's an interdimensional being with the ability to warp time and space. Why would he choose to slowly drag Brian away?


did anyone ever imply that the operator was the one dragging said body out of the room?

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 		I direct you back to another piece of my post.

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And, another question, if Alex had been the one who had dragged him away, why would he go all the way back to the room to pick up the camera and film the trail he had just made?


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SheWhoSlaysMonsters wrote:
I direct you back to another piece of my post.

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And, another question, if Alex had been the one who had dragged him away, why would he go all the way back to the room to pick up the camera and film the trail he had just made?


Maybe he was a afraid that someone would find the camera with all that evidence on it. Plus it's his camera, and he was obsesses with filming everything.
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DHawk314 wrote:
Maybe he was a afraid that someone would find the camera with all that evidence on it. Plus it's his camera, and he was obsesses with filming everything.

This right here. He filmed himself murdering a dude, why not film the aftermath of luring one of his friends to his doom?

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DHawk314 wrote:
SheWhoSlaysMonsters wrote:
I direct you back to another piece of my post.

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And, another question, if Alex had been the one who had dragged him away, why would he go all the way back to the room to pick up the camera and film the trail he had just made?


Maybe he was a afraid that someone would find the camera with all that evidence on it. Plus it's his camera, and he was obsesses with filming everything.


From his reaction to finding out that Jay had not only seen the tapes, but had posted them all over the internet, it seemed like he was never expecting the tapes to see the light of day again.

But, yeah, I guess I could see that (my theory's still only a theory. heh.)... Just seems very tedious.

Also, Lyni, you hit the nail right on the head against him trying to cover his tracks. He didn't care what he filmed himself doing. But, yeah, I could agree with him being so obsessed with filming things he even has to grab his camera before completely dragging someone out.

But, I give you this as retaliation. He didn't film himself attacking Tim at all. Tim had the only camera. And, he didn't pick it up after he knocked Tim out.

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 		It's not Sarah because she only had one appearance in the entire series. It would basically be the equivalent of "the butler did it."

I'm fully convinced that ToTheArk is Jessica, she's wearing padding or something under the heavy hoody clothes and is fooling everyone with the 'innocent victim' routine.
She got kicked out of Alex's apartment (probably because she's in leagues with the Operator) and was making things worse for Alex.

Also, Brian and Seth are dead and they're in Hell, or wherever the Operator hails from.

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SheWhoSlaysMonsters wrote:
I also heard there were OOG reasons why Sarah wouldn't be appearing anymore... Is that true?


No. Actually, we have OOG reasons to believe that they're still in contact with Sarah.


I'm almost certain Troy stated in one of those questionnaires that he wanted to clear up what happened to all the characters. Correct?

They've gotten Brian back numerous times, heck even Seth, even though they live out of state, so I'm pretty confident we'll see her again.

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It's not Sarah because she only had one appearance in the entire series. It would basically be the equivalent of "the butler did it."

I'm fully convinced that ToTheArk is Jessica, she's wearing padding or something under the heavy hoody clothes and is fooling everyone with the 'innocent victim' routine.
She got kicked out of Alex's apartment (probably because she's in leagues with the Operator) and was making things worse for Alex.

Also, Brian and Seth are dead and they're in Hell, or wherever the Operator hails from.


It's just not possible for Hoody to be Jessica. It's safe to say Hoody is TTA or at least part of it since we've been given enough hints to back it up.

TTA has been present all the way back during the filming of Marble Hornets before anyone even met Jessica.

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