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NewInTown2
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Ithilwen22 wrote:
Also, that scene of him just sitting there looks oddly familiar, like it was in a TTA video or something. I'll have to go back and check when I have time.


Don't look any further, when you mentioned it I immediately thought of entry 50, maybe not exactly the same. But same composition.



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AgentLampshade
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Ithilwen22 wrote:
Also, that scene of him just sitting there looks oddly familiar, like it was in a TTA video or something. I'll have to go back and check when I have time.


I thought of Inquiry myself.

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McGregor
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I rewatched entry 51 now that this one came out and I just realized something and I don't remember if it was discussed or not.

What happened to Tim in 51? Did he just disappear? Surely if it was Alex who knocked Brian out he would've seen Tim sitting there in the corner.

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Ithilwen22
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AgentLampshade wrote:
Ithilwen22 wrote:
Also, that scene of him just sitting there looks oddly familiar, like it was in a TTA video or something. I'll have to go back and check when I have time.


I thought of Inquiry myself.


I think that's it, the way Tim's mouth is set, a lot like the picture used in Inquiry.

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NewInTown2 wrote:
Don't look any further, when you mentioned it I immediately thought of entry 50, maybe not exactly the same. But same composition.


Good point, it is similar. If it isn't a coincidence I assume that there's more to it than "screw it I'm tired of running through the woods". XD

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I'd still like to know how Tim eventually ended up in Brian's house, and why he decided to lure Jay there after the interview.

And how he was mentally able enough to do an interview in the first place.

Because if he wasn't crazy, he'd realize that dressing up in a creepy costume, attacking your allies on multiple occasions, breaking and entering, and posting cryptic videos isn't the best way to get somebody on your side.

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McGregor wrote:
I rewatched entry 51 now that this one came out and I just realized something and I don't remember if it was discussed or not.
What happened to Tim in 51? Did he just disappear? Surely if it was Alex who knocked Brian out he would've seen Tim sitting there in the corner.


This is something I've wanted to bring up for a while, and for some reason never did. It is odd how after Brian was dragged out, we were given no indications whatsoever about what happened with Tim. Since the camera never reached the spot that Tim was lying in, we don't know if he was no longer there or was simply unconsiouss for some reason, which would exaplin the lack of Timcough. I don't know why, if Tim was still there but just passed out, Alex would have ignored him, but it reminds me of how I thought Alex strategically used a lighter pipe in 56 because he didn't want to KILL him. He may have his own twisted incentive for keeping Tim alive, we just don't know. It's as unlikely at this point, as it is likely, it seems.

In the event that Tim wasn't in the corner any more all together, several occurances may have taken place; he somehow managed to get out on his own (which I doubt because he was so incapacitated, that he didn't even acknowldge Brian when he came in), he was manually removed (as in probably dragged out like Brian), or somebody came in and rescued him. All of which feel extremely doubtful, but hey.

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Jamocha101 wrote:
McGregor wrote:
I rewatched entry 51 now that this one came out and I just realized something and I don't remember if it was discussed or not.
What happened to Tim in 51? Did he just disappear? Surely if it was Alex who knocked Brian out he would've seen Tim sitting there in the corner.


This is something I've wanted to bring up for a while, and for some reason never did. It is odd how after Brian was dragged out, we were given no indications whatsoever about what happened with Tim. Since the camera never reached the spot that Tim was lying in, we don't know if he was no longer there or was simply unconsiouss for some reason, which would exaplin the lack of Timcough. I don't know why, if Tim was still there but just passed out, Alex would have ignored him, but it reminds me of how I thought Alex strategically used a lighter pipe in 56 because he didn't want to KILL him. He may have his own twisted incentive for keeping Tim alive, we just don't know. It's as unlikely at this point, as it is likely, it seems.

In the event that Tim wasn't in the corner any more all together, several occurances may have taken place; he somehow managed to get out on his own (which I doubt because he was so incapacitated, that he didn't even acknowldge Brian when he came in), he was manually removed (as in probably dragged out like Brian), or somebody came in and rescued him. All of which feel extremely doubtful, but hey.


Yeah, I'm puzzled as well. My guess is that Tim got out of there somehow, either by teleportation or he summoned the strength and made a break for it. I don't see Alex letting Tim just lay there, especially after we see what appeared to be Alex searching for him, this time carrying a heavier pipe. I don't know. *shrugs*

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OOG

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I get the feeling that, if Tim wasn't still there, then Joseph would have bothered to have the camera fan over that particular corner to give us that assurance. Since it doesn't though, I have a feeling that there's a possiblity Tim might have still been there. Could always be a red herring, though. They probably didn't show the spot Tim was in again just because they wanted to warrant that very doubt.


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ToTheArcanine
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My current prediction on Tim getting out of the hospital?
We don't find out.

...And by that I mean Jay won't find any tapes on what happened next, thereby goading him into the maskie discussion with Tim.
I mean let's face it; how Tim joined the M-Team must be addressed at some point and whatever was going on in that hospital is probably long gone now. Jay's options are simply narrowing down until he has to break it to Tim, and that's where things get interesting.

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Speaking of predictions, Tim left the hospital and took refuge in annex exactly as I said. Walking, dazed, tired, at night ... Who says that the first minutes of this entry are filling and totally unnecessary, perhaps he does because it not support his theory of teleport.

A few notes.
Lights when Tim is sitting, shivering, on the outside. It seems that Tim does not see. He turns to the other side, take their camera and gets up. If there are no breaks in the footage, it seems that Tim was sitting close to the entrance to the annex. I think the light is Alex leaving the hospital. He already has disposed of Seth and has verified that Tim is not, has picked up a pipe (as a precaution) and has gone to see the annex to go with Brian the next day.

Where is Tim after Brian being taken, at # 51? I do not know, maybe fled. Yes, he was fucked up, but in those situations, you know ...

Why Tim, did not succumb to Slendy at # 56? Perhaps that they are caught already unconscious.

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I still think the order is Tim > Brian > Seth, since Alex is wearing the same clothes during 22 and at the end of the closing monologue.

Also, I feel like whoever tta is (even though you guys already know who *I* think it is) saved Tim in 51 while Alex was occupied with disposing of Brian.

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I never did expect to find out what happened to Tim post-51, but I have to say, thinking about what's coming up has been intriguing me more than anything. With lack of information given to us in this entry (not that the entry still wasn't great), or otherwise concepts that are reasonable to speculate about at this point that lend to the story, all that's really left to do is predict. It sounds to me like, in the next entry, Jay is still going to attempt to be casual with Tim and continue with the "finishing Marble Hornets" case study, which means we probably won't get the Confrontation (I am strategically puting this term in caps from now on because it seems like an event that should be labeled to me) that we want really bad. It obviously has to happen eventually, but I think it's going to be dragged out. Like, a lot.

So right now, we can only wonder what's going to happen in Entry #58, when Tim presumably takes Jay to the hospital and what heretofore happens to both of them. Tim may see the room and get some flashback that reignites his Masky persona. They may come across the Operator and forget everything that happened to them until the next morning. They may meet Alex. Tim might knock him out with a pipe. Any number of things could happen, which is why I like to contemplate what will. I would like to know why Jay wants to go there in the first place, but I have this fear he's going to find another tape or something, and we'll never get any present day stuff.

It could happen, though. I'm almost sure that, one way or another, Jay is going to find the tape from the camera that Alex has been using since Entry #56, and we'll see why he went into the annex before he was found by Tim. Or maybe him, like...coopting with the Operator or something. Okay yeah, probable not. But anything could happen at this point.

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First of all, no, this is far from a filler entry, and no, it's not a bad entry either. Tim Sutton is obviously a talented actor and him trying to silence his coughing at the end of this entry was something that sent shivers down my spine watching. Did it answer all our questions? No. But did it invoke scares, build suspense and tension for the next entry and develop character? Yes. And that's good enough for me.

Okay, a quick few points from me:
1.) I am positive Tim encountered the Operator in between Alex leaving in 56 and him changing the tapes. He was clearly panting and ran out of the building, so unless Alex came back and spooked him I assume the Operator did something.
2.) Alex was in the annex to kill Tim. Pretty obvious, I feel. Alex had an actual pipe this time and actively looking for something. I don't feel I need to explain anything else.
3.) TO prevented Alex from killing Tim. Tim coughs loudly at the end, which I'm sure would be loud enough for anyone to hear down an abandoned, echoey hallway. However, TO comes instead of letting Alex find him. If Alex is killing off all the members of Marble Hornets (sans Jay for whatever reason), why would TO save Tim? My theory is that TO wants Tim to become Masky/(maybe)TTA and wants him to continue and find Jay. This goes along with a greater theory, but I'll let it rest for now.

A good entry, and although it didn't answer questions it was suspenseful and had a lot of tension and I'm looking forward to the next Tim/Jay interaction.

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The Percolator wrote:
I still think the order is Tim > Brian > Seth, since Alex is wearing the same clothes during 22 and at the end of the closing monologue.

Also, I feel like whoever tta is (even though you guys already know who *I* think it is) saved Tim in 51 while Alex was occupied with disposing of Brian.


With regard to clothing, we do not see who wears Alex at 51, and added to the tape 22 may be made at any time, even if it was lying, wearing the same clothes for the occasion. In that vid Alex says that Seth was the last along with himself, although in 56 also said that Seth will come to the hospital later, and that he will return tomorrow with Brian. In 51 also tells Brian that "yesterday" was there with Seth.
What to believe?

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1) we need to start analyzing the script of the movie. if we can piece together a story, we can tell from the scenes what the order of events was


2) tim most likely vanished with brian in the hospital of doom. we know tim made it out alive, so it's probable that brian did too, and seth as well

3) the mask seems to be a way to block the enduced sickness somehow. notice how tim never makes a noise while wearing it, but the second they go to take it off he flips out as if to say "put that shit back on NOW" - no coughing, no need to catch his breath around the operator.


That being said, next entry better not be tim getting out of the hospital somehow (oh hey jay i have one last tape i found). I really don't care how he makes it out, we know he does so leave it at that plz. It would just end up being an entry where tim gets out and gets caught by the operator at the end anyway. We need a dialogue based entries in present day between Jay and Tim that advances the plot, even if just a little. Jay needs to show him the footage and have tim help him, there's no reason to not trust tim by now.


also can we even confirm that it was alex's shoes at the end of 51? i seem to remember them being two different colors or something and alex was waering 2 diff colors in another entry, so it's most likely him but if anyone can prove that those aren't his shoes we're overlooking something big. i highly doubt its anyone but alex but still, i need something to investigate before the next entry.

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