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[VIDEO] Entry #58
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Necronoxide
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mokie wrote:
Flyleaf(IntoTheMist)Wolfi wrote:
mokie wrote:
Owlish wrote:
Also yay for Hoody's return. And Hoody seems to be...male? Yes?


You really want to kick that hornet's nest with a forum that can barely agree Hoody is wearing a hoody?

Hoodie has to be male, Tim, Troy, and Joseph have all body doubled for Hoodie, and if Hoodie was a chick, I think a chick would have body doubled instead


It was not a serious question. I was poking fun at the debates, in which every person ever to appear in MH was offered up as the obvious candidate for Hoodiness, and supporters vehemently swore the body type matched exactly.


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Trosephim have said to disregard the body types (including Troy's unfortunate womanly curves) since Hoodie has been played by all three of them.


That said, I'm still hoping for Hoodie to be Sarah. Partially because its a total sausage fest in here and also because that'd bring up a pretty good "lolwat" factor

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Necronoxide wrote:

That said, I'm still hoping for Hoodie to be Sarah. Partially because its a total sausage fest in here and also because that'd bring up a pretty good "lolwat" factor


Most slenderseries are sausage fests haha

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Necronoxide wrote:
mokie wrote:
Flyleaf(IntoTheMist)Wolfi wrote:
mokie wrote:
Owlish wrote:
Also yay for Hoody's return. And Hoody seems to be...male? Yes?


You really want to kick that hornet's nest with a forum that can barely agree Hoody is wearing a hoody?

Hoodie has to be male, Tim, Troy, and Joseph have all body doubled for Hoodie, and if Hoodie was a chick, I think a chick would have body doubled instead


It was not a serious question. I was poking fun at the debates, in which every person ever to appear in MH was offered up as the obvious candidate for Hoodiness, and supporters vehemently swore the body type matched exactly.


OOG:
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Trosephim have said to disregard the body types (including Troy's unfortunate womanly curves) since Hoodie has been played by all three of them.


That said, I'm still hoping for Hoodie to be Sarah. Partially because its a total sausage fest in here and also because that'd bring up a pretty good "lolwat" factor


I'm not saying this really effects anything but Jay does refer to Hoodie as "he" in this entry.

Thought I might mention this cause no one else seemed to.

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Hmm.... Tim's unwillingness to go to the annex could imply one of two things, depending on your view whether Timnesia is real or not.

1.) If Timnesia is real : The only explanation I can think of for Tim not wanting to go to the annex is that he has a history with the place that may or may not be entirely related to The Operator. Maybe it has something to do with his mental condition, or maybe it's even the root cause of it. This, however, is based on the assumption that Tim's encounter with TO in the past entry mindwiped him.

2.) If Timnesia is fake : This may imply that Timasky is actually anti-Slendy. He's scared to go to the annex because he's afraid to be Slenderized again. This, hand-to-hand with the entry where Hoody and Masky attacked Alex but ran away (because of TO arriving?), may mean that TTA is also anti-Slendy (assuming you believe that Hoody and Masky are TTA). I'm still confused though as to why Tim brushed off Hoody's appearance in this entry. Are they against each other now? Or is Tim just that good of an actor, and he really wanted Jay to chase Hoody to that weird hole thing?

Thoughts? Very Happy

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apologies if this idea's been tossed around before, but is it possible that the area they're in now is actually the same area that they've always been in, they just don't remember? Tim dropped a clue in this video that kinda supports this theory,

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"You know Alex, if it's more than 10 minutes away from his house he won't go."


If it was close enough to be a potential marble hornets filming spot, then does that mean they never left the original shooting ground? They WERE in a park the supposed first time they saw tall dark and scareyoustupidslender. Rosswood? Maybe?

I think it's a bit of a stretch, but it's a thought that came to me, there are points throughout the series that make this idea nearly impossible, but could they attribute it to memory loss of the highest degree?

Imagine if jay finds his burnt out apartment in this town, and finds a clue there. Shocked Boy, the idea that he'd been played the whole time by oppy, that would severely piss me off. lol.

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TheKraken wrote:
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I watched the deleted Entry #37 in the dark.

I didn't want to turn the lights back on when I was finished for fear of what I would see in the room with me. I found it that unsettling.

Repeated viewings have killed the creep factor for me, but you never forget your first.


It had the exact opposite effect one me. Looked like something out of the 3 stooges. He shuffles his ass across the pavement. I watch it after every time I get skeeved out by the operator to calm my nerves, I find it that funny and ridiculous lol

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LiefWolfsbane wrote:
apologies if this idea's been tossed around before, but is it possible that the area they're in now is actually the same area that they've always been in, they just don't remember? Tim dropped a clue in this video that kinda supports this theory,

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"You know Alex, if it's more than 10 minutes away from his house he won't go."


If it was close enough to be a potential marble hornets filming spot, then does that mean they never left the original shooting ground? They WERE in a park the supposed first time they saw tall dark and scareyoustupidslender. Rosswood? Maybe?

I think it's a bit of a stretch, but it's a thought that came to me, there are points throughout the series that make this idea nearly impossible, but could they attribute it to memory loss of the highest degree?

Imagine if jay finds his burnt out apartment in this town, and finds a clue there. Shocked Boy, the idea that he'd been played the whole time by oppy, that would severely piss me off. lol.



deff not, jay would have noticed the area immediately in the season 2 opener if that was the case since he had been living in his season 1 place for 3+ years. also the parks look nothing alike, and jay even mentions at some point in season 2 that he blacked out and woke up at the red tower which was really far away from his location




here's the way i see the timnesia

if it's real: he doesn't know who hoody is and didn't suspect anything was fishy at the annex/hospital until jay started running. he probably truely thought hoody was a random person. hoody watches over him and jay to ensure that nothing happens to them



if it's fake (more likely, tim brushes off the noises in the hospital entirely too quickly), then he and hoody have different views on how to help jay in some fashion, but don't want to mess up each others plans since they're both anti-slendy and alex.


part of me is wondering why tim went back to the annex in 57 after saying in 56 he didn't want to go, but doesn't want to go back here once again in 58. hoody is obviously leading jay to the tunnel, not running away, and tim really seems to want to get out of there, which is why i think him and hoody aren't on the same page right now, but hoody is still trying to help them in his own way

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LiefWolfsbane wrote:
apologies if this idea's been tossed around before, but is it possible that the area they're in now is actually the same area that they've always been in, they just don't remember? Tim dropped a clue in this video that kinda supports this theory,

Spoiler (Rollover to View):
"You know Alex, if it's more than 10 minutes away from his house he won't go."


If it was close enough to be a potential marble hornets filming spot, then does that mean they never left the original shooting ground? They WERE in a park the supposed first time they saw tall dark and scareyoustupidslender. Rosswood? Maybe?


Tim said that to explain why Alex didn't come out to see the hospital--as he remembers it, at least. When describing the location to Alex in the previous vid, though, it's clearly a good distance away, since Alex would have to pitch in on gas and they'd need to make a weekend of it.

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First of all, one of the best episodes - the only one that's really got me thinking more about the story than ever before. So much in fact I've created an account to discuss it further with you all. Acting was great, best I've seen compared to all entry's.

I have a few points i want to raise, some have already been raised others have not.

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- Did anyone else think that hoodie was hiding behind the door after Tim checked out the room the noise came from at 7:35? Maybe hoodie was trying to disrupt them from the room Tim was found in and jumped out through the gap in the wall and made that second noise? Also check 8:04 the door seems to be open almost all the way so hoody quickly jumped out. Its just something i noticed on the second time around.


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- 'X' marking across most doors, that hadn't been there previously.


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- Ciggarette butts look like Tims, just putting that out there. He knows whats down that tunnel, and doesn't really care if Jay goes down to see (unless he doesn't remember). I think, that whatever's down there, could be the cause of all the problems Tim has been having (Masky). As the faces in the windows seem to make out like the place is haunted.. i mean, its where Alex has been getting OP'd I just feel something big is about to happen.


A crazy thought..
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I don't think masky is on the good side, i think he works for the operator. He was luring them into a trap. I think he helps lure in people so the OP can have his way with them, and wipe memory's/tape footage as he wishes.


Who really knows at this point, i just can't wait to see what happens next. I really hope for something big, as this episode really had me on edge. The entire feel of the video, the location (dem hallways..) and the burnt out walls. Its just so freaking creepy...

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This may or may not sound silly, but I was thinking perhaps Tim "brushed off" Hoody's appearence so fast and then accused him of possibly being a security dude who could potentially rat them out because he was progressively more unnerved with being in the building and was looking for any possible excuse to convince Jay to get out. He was also probably too distracted by thinking about whatever he has against the annex to consider the possibility of Hoody being anybody worth chasing.

And Tim definitely has some kind of "thing" with the tunnel to boot. He was gradually becoming more and more out of sorts as the entry went on, but he seemed most insistent on "escaping" after he finally got Jay to get out of the entryway to the tunnel. He had no reason (besides probably being unnerved by Hoody's appearence) to want to get out so bad. It almost seemed like he thought they were in danger and wanted to get out to save their lives. Don't misinterpret that, though. Not saying they were, but I'm saying that's how Tim probably felt.
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hoping this hasn't been said yet.

around 10:50 or so, when jay puts the camera down as he's getting out of the maintenance tunnel, you see there's cigarette butts all over the ground.

combining that tim was acting weird, and that he's the only one that smokes, it could be thought that he's been there recently and is lying to jay.

yeah, tons of people smoke, but it's a thought.

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shoeler wrote:
hoping this hasn't been said yet.

around 10:50 or so, when jay puts the camera down as he's getting out of the maintenance tunnel, you see there's cigarette butts all over the ground.

combining that tim was acting weird, and that he's the only one that smokes, it could be thought that he's been there recently and is lying to jay.

yeah, tons of people smoke, but it's a thought.


Yeah, those could be anybodies, really. But Jay does focus on them for a while and they could have easily kicked them out of the shot. So they could just be ambiance or a hint that Tim has been spending time there. No way to know now.
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They were having experiences with The Operator long before the abandoned hospital. Not to mention, Tim has a history of mental illness.


And again, all of this continues to confirm my previous theory that they all were kids together in Rosswood Town, then something happened when they were little and the only one to stay was Tim. I will most likely be proven wrong by the end of the series, but it's getting really weird how my theory keeps getting confirmed. I even used out of game knowledge for the hospital connection, because there wasn't yet confirmation (in game) that it was in fact in the Rosswood area. I took a wild guess with that.

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Flyleaf(IntoTheMist)Wolfi wrote:
Window shot


I did a frame dump of the entry this morning, that window shot has me exceedingly perplexed. If you look at the first five or so frames it seems that there is a face on the tan object in the window; however, as one progresses through the frames it looks less and less like anything at all. It seems to be a boring brown square, by the end of the sequence.

Basically, I thought that this was post worthy when I began looking at it and now I don't even know what I think.




The rest of the sequence is at http://s1257.photobucket.com/albums/ii517/conundrum768/MH%20-%20E58/ (I didn't want the post to be super long and data-heavy). If anyone wants the full dump I can upload it somewhere.

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Random speculation: Tim burned down the annex when he was younger. Not entirely crazy, but a bit out there. He could have a history of arson (which returned when burned down Jay's apartment?) That would explain the "Why would I have brought that up?" bit. Or alternatively he was in the annex when it burned down, explaining the "Seen enough of that for a lifetime". Or perhaps both.

On the subject of fires and arson, but completely unrelated, didn't Alex have a lighter in Entry #50, even though he doesn't smoke? What was that about?

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