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sweetgums
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DonMonte wrote:
sweetgums wrote:
Geneaux486 wrote:
[Quote Tree]

This is where I get confused, though. Because TO is supposed to be an entity that has existed decades, maybe even centuries ago. But the hospital makes it out like that was TO's origin, so only like a decade ago?

Though, maybe that hospital has been renovated a lot of times, always getting burned down, and... I really don't know at this point.

Unless I've forgotten something, I don't think we know much about Slendy/Oppy-lore in Marble Hornets. Lots of other games have a long Slendy-history, but as far as I know the earliest possible appearance in-game was Alex's birthday tape. Someone please correct me if I'm wrong.

In-game, yes, but in entry #38 when Alex was telling a story about Rosswood Park he mentions that it was "back in the 1800's", which just adds to my confusion.

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Maybe they get a bunch of extras and it's a room of bodies.

omg you guys Bruce is gonna be down there.

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sweetgums wrote:
or Tim had a pre-MH experience in there, maybe he has a sickness or psychological thing since a long time ago and had been seeing a doctor there, and... maybe something happened.


Oh, oh man. People need to consider this more thoroughly. Also, the confirmation that the hospital was burned down is pretty important in my humble opinion.

At least one person probably died there.

This is probably really significant.

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sweetgums wrote:

In-game, yes, but in entry #38 when Alex was telling a story about Rosswood Park he mentions that it was "back in the 1800's", which just adds to my confusion.



Spoiler (Rollover to View):
On the season 2 commentary, Troy and Joseph make it explicit that that's not supposed to be an origin story for slendy.


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Schmedly27 wrote:
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And WTF, what HD camera doesn't have a light or night vision on it? (i'm stretching it, obviously they need to save material for future entries)

I agree that Tim is the best actor out of the main characters. And whoever said Jessica was totheark: tta was following jay back in season 1, and jessica grew up near rosswood and lived nearby with amy, even back in season 1 (entries 43 and 26 prove this)
I'm not saying Jessica is tta but I do think tta is different then he was in season 1. In season 1 he mentioned seeing Jay and then Masky popped up, here in season 3 he says see you soon and Hoodie pops up.


wait, explain the masky thing?

in season 2, in intermission he says "did you see me, i saw you" and it shows a picture of what looks like hoody sitting near a log, and in 42's beginning you can see hoody sitting under a tree

also the see you soon thing from season 3, and then jay running into him here, almost solidifies that hoody is totheark

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Re: BRIAN IS HOODY

Flyleaf(IntoTheMist)Wolfi wrote:
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Mariolee wrote:
Brian is definitely Hoody, no doubt about it. He was hurt by Alex over there, there has been no sign of him since, and it obviously can't be either Alex or Tim since he was a separate entity in the entry where they attack Alex.

Also, this might disprove the theory that shining a camera on the Operator symbol summons the Operator, since Jay did it a bunch of times, and there was no distortion or any sign of Slendy being there.


Seth fits hoody's profile better imo. Was the first one taken out, had editing experience, and was the one who handled most of the footage from marble hornets since he was the cameraman/editor, explaining where he got exclusive footage from. Although I agree that if it's not seth it's deff Brian.

I've always seen seth as being "The camera man" and not wanting to be in footage(so maybe Skully, if not hoodie?[IF Skully is still a thing(hasn't been confirmed as not yet)])



seth is confirmed editor, the entry where they make beats in tims house, at the beginning seth asks if alex has the tapes and jay says "you better get going" implying that seth needs the tapes to make progress on the movie, meaning he's the editor

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The Reverend wrote:
sweetgums wrote:

In-game, yes, but in entry #38 when Alex was telling a story about Rosswood Park he mentions that it was "back in the 1800's", which just adds to my confusion.


Spoiler (Rollover to View):
On the season 2 commentary, Troy and Joseph make it explicit that that's not supposed to be an origin story for slendy.

Well so much for that. Are we supposed to assume that Alex was lying to Jay about that? He just wanted to distract him with creepy tales about children getting dismembered?

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GameGodOfAll wrote:
Are the people saying "Hoody is TTA" thinking ONLY Hoody is TTA?

Cause I thought it was the majority belief that TTA was more than one person. I mean Tim HAS to be in on it. One video has Tim posing for the camera. I'm thinking at least 3 people.


i personally think TTA is one person, and he works with tim, but tta is not a dual-shared account, and that jay's multiple people tweet is a red herring. TTA has only mentioned "us" on one or two occasions, and every other time refers to "me" - again, tim could want to find the ark too, hence the "us", but doesn't mean he's totheark

something tells me that if TTA was multiple people, we'd have seen more people by now.

just kind of sketchy that hoody would tell tim about everything but be very secretive with jay, almost makes you wonder what he made tim go through

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Something else nobody mentioned was that Tim coughs at that location in the hospital but not Jay

This also happens with Alex and Brian in 51... hmm

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pravado wrote:
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Maybe they are refereeing to the story Alex told of the killing trees.


They flat out said in the season 2 dvd that that was not an origin story for the operator. Most likely something alex was making up to lead jay along into the woods without him getting suspicious as to what's to come


I figure it was just something Alex/TO found fascinating. Like how people today connect with long-dead historical figures, they found ties to these punished criminals who were before their time.

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neko wrote:
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Also, holy shit Jay... would it kill you to say "Thank you"?!


THANK YOU! I was thinking the same thing when they were on their way home on the tracks, like "Thanks, though, Tim." What a derp.


I also had the same thought.

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lawlmarcus wrote:
pravado wrote:
Geneaux486 wrote:
Maybe they are refereeing to the story Alex told of the killing trees.


They flat out said in the season 2 dvd that that was not an origin story for the operator. Most likely something alex was making up to lead jay along into the woods without him getting suspicious as to what's to come


I figure it was just something Alex/TO found fascinating. Like how people today connect with long-dead historical figures, they found ties to these punished criminals who were before their time.


that would make it an origin story though. which they said was not the case.

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At the start of this entry, when Tim was on the phone with his doctor, I heard Tim say he was getting better, to the point they could cut down on the number of visits. Upon hearing that, I thought, "What are you doing, J? Tim's getting better, and here you come with MH and Operator stuff...."

So in his tweet, J mentioned he was feeling sick, presumably from his visit to the hospital. Nothing in this entry seems to be the cause of that.
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pravado wrote:
lawlmarcus wrote:
pravado wrote:
Geneaux486 wrote:
Maybe they are refereeing to the story Alex told of the killing trees.


They flat out said in the season 2 dvd that that was not an origin story for the operator. Most likely something alex was making up to lead jay along into the woods without him getting suspicious as to what's to come


I figure it was just something Alex/TO found fascinating. Like how people today connect with long-dead historical figures, they found ties to these punished criminals who were before their time.


that would make it an origin story though. which they said was not the case.
Just because you empathize with the past doesn't mean you based your life on it.

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You know, maybe it's because I'm MH starved but this is, in my opinion, one of the best entries I've seen in a while. I was absolutely expecting them to get attacked or something, then nearly had a cow when they showed that
A. The Annex Tim referred to while talking to Alex in 56 was definitely the same building where Brian was slenderized (I remember there being some doubt about this, I think?),
B. The hospital was burned out in fake real life (not just in the AKMH story but in the MH story as well)
C. Both buildings are near Rosswood and not near where S1 took place

And then how blatantly J was like focusing on old things he'd seen in previous entries: the wall where Alex had Brian lean against a door frame and wait for slendy, the room where Brian found Tim, the doorway Alex(?) dragged Brian through, etc, I just like pictured J in my head thinking to himself "okay this is definitely it, I've seen all this in the tapes". AND THEN STRANGE NOISES BEHIND HIM. I for one completely expected hoody to pop out a la Entry 34 Masky, and I think that was the intent, and then it didn't happen AND THEN HOODY JUST WENT FOR A STROLL RIGHT IN FRONT OF THEIR FACES. I'm sorry, I was just really excited throughout this whole entry.

Also, the fact that Tim so casually brushed the hoody appearance off. Did anyone else get the feeling that Tim very specifically didn't want J pursuing him? Does that mean he's working with hoody, or against him? While hoody seems to want J to go to the Annex, then to the tunnel, then down the tunnel, Tim seems opposed every step of the way.

Maybe Hoody and Masky formed an alliance at some point to take care of Alex but they both wanted different things in the end, like Hoody wants the ark and masky just wants people safe? He's always struck me as more interested in protecting J, albeit in fairly convoluted ways, where as Hoody's always been more of the tantalizing, teasing sort.

I don't know, but again, can I just say this entry has got me really excited for new potential theories and whatnot, and I absolutely don't think it was filler in any way. The last few entries have been a bit weak, but they built up to this one and likely the next one really well, and I think it's coming together wonderfully here.

EDIT: Alex dragged Brian through the doorway, not Tim, sorry about that

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@reverend, if alex associated a story that wasn't actually the operator's origin with the operator, wouldn't that still be them creating an origin story for him even if it's a fake one that alex made up?


It strikes me as weird that Tim had been in that annex before Alex hit him with the rebar, before brian or seth were sacrificed

Tim clearly remembers this seen in the entry with the rebar and this one, so i'm guessing whatever went down there was the cause of his psychosis.

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