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[SPEC] Masky vs. The Operator
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Rubaiyat
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 		[SPEC] Masky vs. The Operator
There's a chance that this theory gets me laughed right off the forum, but what the hell, why not? Bear with me as I struggle to phrase my convoluted theory (not knowing the spoiler etiquette here, I'll just spoiler-block the whole thing].

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I'm beginning to think that "Masky", rather than being an alternate personality of Tim's, is some entity that takes possession of him, and has goals diametrically opposed to those of the Operator. Every time Tim has one of those coughing fits (the ones that coincide with Operator-like video distortion), I'd been assuming that the Operator was responsible, but what if the Masky entity has similar properties?

Here's where the theory really goes off the rails. What if Tim's ill-fated trip into Rosswood Park as a kid (shown on his chart in Entry 60.5) was both his first run-in with the Operator, and the instance in which Masky took hold of him? We're told (by Alex in Entry 38 ) that criminals were strung up to the fast-growing trees to die, and then those trees were burned down. We also learn that the practice stopped when a child disappeared and was found dismembered*. What I thought of that was that it was something of an origin story for the Operator as a vengeful spirit of one of the condemned, or an amalgamation of the rage and the malice of all those who were executed in that way (it also could explain the Operator's affinity for fire?).

Whatever the Masky entity is (maybe the vengeful spirit of the dismembered kid, though that seems silly), it might have been stuck with the Op for ages, until it seized Tim as its chance to escape. When Tim ended up at the psych hospital, the Operator chased him there, and had the place burn down to get rid of Masky and Tim. Later, when the Operator starts to screw with Alex (does he end up actually possessing him? is that a thing?) Tim starts to get sick as a side-effect of Masky reacting to his old nemesis. It also might help explain the eventual antagonism between the Tim and Alex.

Eventually, when crap really starts to go down, Masky straight up takes full control of Tim, right up until it seems like the Operator is no longer a threat (when Alex has been "dealt with"). TTA is clearly opposed to the Operator, so it wouldn't be surprising that TTA work together with Masky once they realize that their interests align, going as far as stealing Tim's pills and unleashing Masky again in "Entry/Entry 61".

*Alternatively, the Operator is after Tim as it wanted to kill/dismember him as well? Either way, I feel like it's way too much of a coincidence that the story of Rosswood park has a instance of a kid getting lost and having horrible shit happen to them, and the fact that when Tim was a child he got lost in those same woods.


That's about as far as I got. I've been working 12 to 16 hour overnight shifts for the past 8 days now, so my brain is turning to mush. Please feel free to poke holes in my ridiculous theory to your hearts' content, folks! Part of healthy discourse is having people call you (or me, in this case) out when a theory is flat-out wrong. Cheers! Very Happy

PostPosted: Fri Aug 10, 2012 2:37 am
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 		Yeah, I'm just going to go ahead and shoot you down right here and now.

From all I've seen, the Operator is nearly omnipotent. He can warp time and space at will and seems to have the ability to be in multiple places at once.

There's not a snowball's chance in Hell that a mere mortal like Masky, even if he's endowed with similar abilities as the tall man, is going to even for a second stand up to the Operator.

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saksxalmo
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 		Re: [SPEC] Masky vs. The Operator
Rubaiyat wrote:
I'm beginning to think that "Masky", rather than being an alternate personality of Tim's, is some entity that takes possession of him, and has goals diametrically opposed to those of the Operator.


Someone's been watching too much EMH.

I'm sure your theory is just as good as anyone else's, but did you really have to start a new thread? You could have used the season 3 whatever-it's-called thread.

Sorry if I sound bitchy, it's late here and I'm too stubborn to sllee pno.w
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tim where are you going? tim why did you leave your mask here?
tim what do you mean you don't remember anything? tim you said you’d never forget me.
tim im giving jay all your personal medical info because you're a fucking liar.
call me


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Rubaiyat
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Serum wrote:
Yeah, I'm just going to go ahead and shoot you down right here and now.

From all I've seen, the Operator is nearly omnipotent. He can warp time and space at will and seems to have the ability to be in multiple places at once.

There's not a snowball's chance in Hell that a mere mortal like Masky, even if he's endowed with similar abilities as the tall man, is going to even for a second stand up to the Operator.


Funny, the Operator (while admittedly exceptionally powerful) sure doesn't seem to border on omnipotence to me. All I'm suggesting is a dualism here; an equal and opposed force.

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Someone's been watching too much EMH.

I'm sure your theory is just as good as anyone else's, but did you really have to start a new thread? You could have used the season 3 whatever-it's-called thread.


Sorry, mate, that's my bad (new to the forum and whatnot). If a mod wants to merge it into that thread, that'd be AOK.

As for EMH, I honestly did not know what you were talking about until I googled it... my best guess until then was "extended marble hornets".

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NewInTown2
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 		They have already stated that the tale Alex tells Jay in the forest is not the origin story of the operator, and they don't plan on giving one either.

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Rubaiyat
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 		Ah, so that whole thing was a red herring? Sweet. Thanks mate! I withdraw my theory, and hope it sinks like a stone.

Out of curiosity, and OOG, was it stated on the season 2 DVD, or was it on troy's blog?

EDIT: Sorry, disregard that question. Thread won't go away unless it's ignored Razz

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NewInTown2
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Rubaiyat wrote:
Ah, so that whole thing was a red herring? Sweet. Thanks mate! I withdraw my theory, and hope it sinks like a stone.

Out of curiosity, and OOG, was it stated on the season 2 DVD, or was it on troy's blog?

EDIT: Sorry, disregard that question. Thread won't go away unless it's ignored Razz


I'm not sure but I think they said it on the commentary of the DVD.
Sorry if I came off rude. Just wanted to enlighten Razz

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Rubaiyat
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 		No worries mate Smile. Thanks for the quick and honest reply. Cheers!

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Silver Sol
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 		Masky versus Operator? Nonsense!



It would ruin a good dancing team if they went solo.

PostPosted: Fri Aug 10, 2012 10:06 am
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Zebez
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Silver Sol wrote:
Masky versus Operator? Nonsense!



It would ruin a good dancing team if they went solo.


I dunno man, looks like he has a pretty good shot at a solo career

http://documentaryonhotels.tumblr.com/post/22764855240/iamjayse-buttsandbosoms-belowtheprecipice

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Drnothing1
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 		I'll admit, I don't hate this theory.
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Rubaiyat wrote:
Serum wrote:
Yeah, I'm just going to go ahead and shoot you down right here and now.

From all I've seen, the Operator is nearly omnipotent. He can warp time and space at will and seems to have the ability to be in multiple places at once.

There's not a snowball's chance in Hell that a mere mortal like Masky, even if he's endowed with similar abilities as the tall man, is going to even for a second stand up to the Operator.


Funny, the Operator (while admittedly exceptionally powerful) sure doesn't seem to border on omnipotence to me. All I'm suggesting is a dualism here; an equal and opposed force.


I think the Operator is "omnipotent" in the same way that Doctor Manhattan from "Watchmen" is omnipotent. Like, he can do almost anything, but in Manhattan's case, particles that go backwards in time cloud his vision, just as the camera (as theorized) binds the Operator to our world's physical rules.

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