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Technical question(s) for video editing
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Baronness
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Technical question(s) for video editing

(Mods, forgive me if this is in the wrong section. I really couldn't find any 'technical' type areas for this, so please let me know if this is inappropriate for the SM mythos forum.)

I've been Googling my heart out on how to make a split-screen (small line of video distortion? Not sure exactly what it's called, but it's used in MH quite a bit) while editing... But I just can't find anything on it - let alone how to do it in iMovie HD, which is, unfortunately, the software I'm using to edit. All the articles/help videos out there seem to be geared towards fixing that kind of distortion rather than creating it.

Help? Please?

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I'm fairly certain that effect is done in Adobe Premiere.

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Lumine wrote:
I'm fairly certain that effect is done in Adobe Premiere.


Yeah, but, ugh, can't I do it somehow with iMHD? I'm poor.

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I don't know about iMovie (I use MAGIX), but does it have a garbage matte, or a cropping tool? You can use those to crop a small rectangle of the footage you want, place it at the bottom of the screen and it does the same effect, just play the cropped one on top of the original footage.

Heck, even a chroma key will work. Do you have photoshop or Gimp? If you want to do a screen tear (which I'm assuming is what you're referring to), you can photoshop a green box, drag it to the bottom of the screen, where the original video is. Save this as it's own .avi, keeping the original footage in its own .avi.
Open a new movie, add the greenscreen.avi or whatever, and add a chroma key to the GS.avi. Then import the original video, and put it on the first/top row. (or third, depending on how your timeline works, just put it behind the chroma key) Then use the adjusting tool to pull it up or down a bit, so it's off-center from the top, GS'd video. You could also put it a few seconds behind the other video so the change is even more apparent.
It's hard work if you want to use it a lot, but I've found that this can work better than a garbage matte at times, since if you have Gimp or photoshop you can be even more precise by using zoom, other brushes, color detection... ect.
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Baronness wrote:
Lumine wrote:
I'm fairly certain that effect is done in Adobe Premiere.


Yeah, but, ugh, can't I do it somehow with iMHD? I'm poor.

Adobe... After effects? Both can do the same "Visual tear" you are asking for. If getting cash for it is the problem...
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OhWhatProvidence wrote:
I don't know about iMovie (I use MAGIX), but does it have a garbage matte, or a cropping tool? You can use those to crop a small rectangle of the footage you want, place it at the bottom of the screen and it does the same effect, just play the cropped one on top of the original footage.

Heck, even a chroma key will work. Do you have photoshop or Gimp? If you want to do a screen tear (which I'm assuming is what you're referring to), you can photoshop a green box, drag it to the bottom of the screen, where the original video is. Save this as it's own .avi, keeping the original footage in its own .avi.
Open a new movie, add the greenscreen.avi or whatever, and add a chroma key to the GS.avi. Then import the original video, and put it on the first/top row. (or third, depending on how your timeline works, just put it behind the chroma key) Then use the adjusting tool to pull it up or down a bit, so it's off-center from the top, GS'd video. You could also put it a few seconds behind the other video so the change is even more apparent.
It's hard work if you want to use it a lot, but I've found that this can work better than a garbage matte at times, since if you have Gimp or photoshop you can be even more precise by using zoom, other brushes, color detection... ect.


Ahh, thank you! It does sound like a lot of work but I think it's such a cool and subtle effect for when the solarising effect or whatever starts getting old.

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After Effects is hard to get used to, IMO. I'm always gonna recommend Magix. I use Magix ME Pro 14, which is awesome and only cost about $45. (not including when it was on sale at Fry's). It works as well as Vegas, imo. You just have to be creative with your editing styles, it does what I need it to. I've downloaded 17 before, but I couldn't get the pause to work right, so I switched back to 14... Now I think they're on like 20-something, so I'm sure that 14 is pretty cheap. And no issues with rendering, unlike Vegas or After Effects (from what I've heard about After Effects, anyway... I think. It might have been Vegas. I could never get used to AE enough to actually render anything...)
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Another way to make visual tears, and this is probably the least practical in the thread because it's using the uber expensive Final Cut for Macs, is using the "roll" property of the "Bad TV" filter. In fact, the Bad TV filter is fantastic for all kinds of distortions. You know... if you actually afford Final Cut. Others have already suggested you know what.

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Actually, the least practical method would be to record on analogue tape and leave it in the freezer overnight with a bunch of magnets.

Is After Effects that bad? I have a Mac so I'm hoping that it will turn out okay but I dunno, has anyone had any positive experience with it? I tried a freebie called HyperEngine but it only does the basics as was as I can tell.
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Fotzepolitic wrote:
Actually, the least practical method would be to record on analogue tape and leave it in the freezer overnight with a bunch of magnets.

Is After Effects that bad? I have a Mac so I'm hoping that it will turn out okay but I dunno, has anyone had any positive experience with it? I tried a freebie called HyperEngine but it only does the basics as was as I can tell.

After effects can do the visual tear without distortion easy peasy. The distortion is a tad tough to do, but you can pull it off.

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Gosh, I never realised how much modern computers had destroyed by patience. I just spent 20 minutes waiting for some fairly sophisticated rendering (because like an idiot I rendered 5 minutes of film for the sake of probably about two seconds that I'll actually use) and it was driving me nuts. Back in my Amstrad 464 days I'd happily wait that long just to play Sultan's Maze.

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Still, this is about eight times faster than it was when I was at college, so that's pretty cool.
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Man. This stuff is complicated. I wish there were just a button you could press to make visual tears. That'd be nice.

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