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Cougar Draven
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 		I am pleased with the code, less so with our ability to politely break it.

ETA: More to the point, I'm disappointed that I've seen no fewer than three different people proclaim the code "solved" and it's not yet been 24 hours.
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 23, 2012 2:45 pm
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conundrum768
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Zarggg wrote:
I'm comfortable with "His lies in the dark". It would fit.

I think we're still talking about Tim here.


Still very cryptic and ominous. Is it
Quote:
"Something that Tim owns/possesses is waiting/hidden in an obscured/secret/dimly light place"


or is it saying

Quote:
"Look to/reexamine the untruths that Tim has created in dark places/secret messages (As Masky perhaps)"


I cannot stress enough that I think the literal interpretation of the tunnel and darkness/light in this TTA are way off the mark. That is a real-world concrete and metal tunnel that Jay's about to go down into; thing is, it's also a lot more than that.

As to the light/dark, it's a basic dichotomy; one that would be comfortable in any story with an antagonist and protagonist(s). I think that a more appropriate interpretation would be that Jay's camera is the light and it is exposing what has long been hidden in darkness (read: not seen by the world).

That said, let's look back at Session. Two messages seem to run parallel with the line (see above) from Reference, "Secrets everywhere" and "Liars everywhere." I really want to dissuade people from jumping to the conclusion that when "Liar" appears that TTA is naturally talking about Alex. He's lied a lot, but that seems to be the default conversation mode for all the characters in MH. Even if Timnesia was real, he's lying about his knowledge of the hospital and why he didn't want to be there. Jay lies every chance he gets.

Now, if we take the first interpretation of "His lies in the dark." then we can tie it in, directly with "Secrets everywhere" Tim (presumably, maybe as Masky, maybe as a previous) has secreted away information somewhere (most likely a hidden/dark/inaccessible place). Seems to me that Jay going alone to the tunnel may be the best choice, especially if he can make sure that Tim is busy when he does it.

PostPosted: Sat Jun 23, 2012 3:21 pm
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Black Sand
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I think this one is pretty good. I managed to get a lot of detail to show,including pipes. Also, when it says "HE LIES IN THE DARK", we might be seeing masky, hoody, or someone related when Jay finally goes to the tunnel.

EDIT: Wow, very grainy, didn't see that coming...

The other one on page 7 looks a bit better.

PostPosted: Sat Jun 23, 2012 3:41 pm
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FossilizedSauce
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 		What if Alex is alive and laying low in that tunnel, like a makeshift safehouse?

Crying or Very sad

PostPosted: Sat Jun 23, 2012 4:06 pm
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Lucifox
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 		Ok I'm grabbing air here but with the code confirmation (in my eyes) I think it applies like so:
Origins is directed at both TTA group and TO.
For the most part we can agree that TTA knows the most out of anyone about TO and can give Jay answers
His lies in the dark can be pointing to the origins of TO, which if Jay ran in blindly we already see what happens #slendyswiped
Light reveals truth, so with light instead of having a meeting with TO Jay can instead expect to meet up with TTA.

Once again just talking out of my ass but I think it can be plausible.

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elkapo
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 		Well, from my lack of English language, I think the phrase "TRUTH WITH LIGHT" could refer to something physical, like an inscription with ink visible with UV light at some place, or thing, from the beginning of this story ... "LOOK TO THE ORIGINS".
It may not be so exactly, but perhaps something less metaphysical than it is being considered.

"HIS LIES IN THE DARK." This phrase, which I have no doubt that is the right solution to the code, is curious to be the very darkest part of the message ...

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Nimblewright
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 		Look to the origins (...) His lies in the dark.

This makes me think that Maskies origins lie at the end of the tunnel. In the dark, so to speak. This would also explain why Timmytims didn't want Jay to go in there, because he subconsciously knew something bad happened there.

Ignore this if it's been said before.

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 		I think "LOOK TO HIS ORIGINS / HIS LIES IN THE DARK / TRUTH IN THE LIGHT" might be a reference to the fact that even in his rage against Jay, Tim is still holding something back -- in this case I'm taking the meaning literally (Dark = Night / Light = Day). A recurring theme in the series is that the characters are all guilty of hiding things from each other, or even from us (as viewers).

My feeling is that TTA is trying to get Jay to take a closer look at what caused Tim's conversion into Masky and is implying that Tim knows, but is hiding from Jay.

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 		:O Arizona, I'm impressed. I think your solution is the best.

Can anyone post pictures of all three hallways (the one from entry #26, the one from this video but brightened, and the one from entry #57) together so that we can all have a side-by-side comparison? It would be greatly appreciated. Smile

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pestoner
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Nimblewright wrote:
Look to the origins (...) His lies in the dark.

This makes me think that Maskies origins lie at the end of the tunnel. In the dark, so to speak. This would also explain why Timmytims didn't want Jay to go in there, because he subconsciously knew something bad happened there.

Ignore this if it's been said before.



yes they lie not in the way of lying but lying,so stop talking about potential liars.. Smile

also i need to point out that i really hate made up words like "timnesia" or "troseph" and even worse "trospehim",but that wont probably stop anyone from using these..would it kill you to refer to the producers as THEM or THESE MOTHAFUCKAZ or to write tim's amnesia?but have it your way,unfiction Laughing

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pestoner wrote:
Nimblewright wrote:
Look to the origins (...) His lies in the dark.

This makes me think that Maskies origins lie at the end of the tunnel. In the dark, so to speak. This would also explain why Timmytims didn't want Jay to go in there, because he subconsciously knew something bad happened there.

Ignore this if it's been said before.



yes they lie not in the way of lying but lying,so stop talking about potential liars.. Smile

also i need to point out that i really hate made up words like "timnesia" or "troseph" and even worse "trospehim",but that wont probably stop anyone from using these..would it kill you to refer to the producers as THEM or THESE MOTHAFUCKAZ or to write tim's amnesia?but have it your way,unfiction Laughing


What's wrong with made up words? They're cool and refer to specific things in a non-boring, non-generic-sounding way. Razz

Come on, "them"? Really? Can you get more dull and vague?

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Blank_Zero
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 		I like "Trosephim". I sounds like Seraphim.

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pestoner wrote:
also i need to point out that i really hate made up words like "timnesia" or "troseph" and even worse "trospehim",but that wont probably stop anyone from using these..would it kill you to refer to the producers as THEM or THESE MOTHAFUCKAZ or to write tim's amnesia?but have it your way,unfiction Laughing


It's called fans being fans and trying to have fun with it.

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saksxalmo
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Blank_Zero wrote:
I like "Trosephim". I sounds like Seraphim.

This.

Zarggg wrote:
It's called fans being fans and trying to have fun with it.

qft

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Zarggg wrote:
pestoner wrote:
also i need to point out that i really hate made up words like "timnesia" or "troseph" and even worse "trospehim",but that wont probably stop anyone from using these..would it kill you to refer to the producers as THEM or THESE MOTHAFUCKAZ or to write tim's amnesia?but have it your way,unfiction Laughing


It's called fans being fans and trying to have fun with it.


Fun?!?! THIS IS MARBLE HORNETS.
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