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chaos_angel
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VincentPain wrote:
12th wrote:
because I was fiddling with anagrams: HARK, IT HIS SIDELINE. Obviously, someone is working two jobs. Jay income solved.


What about:

SALAD HIKE HINTER

or

HITLER INKS A HEAD

or

SHE TRIED ANAL, IKH!


Or Skinhead Lithe Sir. Clearly a reference to Our Tall Friend. ;P
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So, I haven't been on the forums since Entry #59 was uploaded, and then I saw Totheark's "Reference" for the first time today in my subscriptions, and then I got excited, and then I watched it, and then I was afraid, and now I'm here.

Read the first two pages. Kind of surprised nobody was like, "Tim relapased OMG," because that's pretty much what I gathered from this. The mask at the end was an indication that our specail vizard'd friend, Masky, has made a comeback, and I anticipate we will see him in the foreseeable future. Which really sucks for Tim. He's going to start getting memory gaps all over again, realize what's happening, and then come to accept that they only thing he can do is join Jay in his adventure and defeat the Operator and Alex once and for all.

I spent way too much time away.

Also, was thinkin' about what "origins" might be referring to, and I don't think it's a person or the Operator. Totheark is clearly implying that Jay will need to look back to find answers, and granted the events in the preceding entry, I think it has something to do with all the way back to the earliest entries, or when this all started. Jay missed something, or hasn't seen something yet. That's why he needs to "look closely," and "listen."

I don't know what's been said about the mystery numbers, but the average of them is 98.5. This made me think of Jay typing "1985" into the safe, which I immediately thought was his birth year. After doing the math, though, I came to realize that that would put Jay at twenty-seven years of age. So I don't know. Maybe the answer is in Entry #27. :p
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Jamocha101 wrote:
I don't know what's been said about the mystery numbers, but the average of them is 98.5. This made me think of Jay typing "1985" into the safe, which I immediately thought was his birth year. After doing the math, though, I came to realize that that would put Jay at twenty-seven years of age. So I don't know. Maybe the answer is in Entry #27. :p


Or 26 years, depending on when his birthday is.

There's 6 candles on Alex's birthday cake cookie in enttry #37, which is in 1991. So Alex WAS born in 1985, and since he went to college with Jay, it's plausible Jay's was born the same year as him.

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Well alright, then.

Origins. Jay or perhaps Alex's birth year. I think Totheark may have been implying something about Alex if my theory is even remotely accurate, and it probably isn't. But who knows?
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98.5 is also, almost exactly (just over 0.1% off), the normal core temperature of a human being -- in Fahrenheit.

I don't have a theory relating to that; it's just the first thing that came to my mind.

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Alex was born on April 4th 1985. Jay was born sometime in 1985, the safe was a direct giveaway. The first password jay tried was his birth year, don't look that deep into it.

They're both 27 IG (well, Jay might be 26 but it's irrelevant), and MH was being filmed while they were juniors.

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Jamocha101 wrote:
Well alright, then.

Origins. Jay or perhaps Alex's birth year. I think Totheark may have been implying something about Alex if my theory is even remotely accurate, and it probably isn't. But who knows?


doesn't make sense

we've determined it was

origins

his lies in the dark

truth with light


with a picture of masky. most likely referring to how tim became masky.

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I don't know, man. I just keep going back to enntry #37 which implied that Alex had been stalked since he was child; as irrelevant as it might be, I almost feel like there's perhaps something in Jay's own childhood that he missed.

But anyone could say that's overly convoluted. It just gets me that Totheark knows exactly what the numbers mean and we don't. He's like God, knowing all, and we're just his ditzy little followers who are trying to figure everything out.
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I think that it's sensible to believe that Tim didn't watch all of Jay's videos due to anger and time constraints...After all, what would you think if you just discovered that someone had lied to you every time you spoke with them, and that they were actually involved with something that has proven to be very dangerous? And that accounted for most every bad part of your life for the past few years?
Based on the anger Tim must have felt, I don't think it is a stretch that he just skipped around and watched random videos. In fact, the videos in which Jay meets Jessica are at the very end of the FIRST page. We might be able to assume that Tim just watched the latest videos with him in them, and decided to get a bit more "background." So, he watched the last videos on that page, not bothering to actually go to page three. Again, considering how angry he must have been, this is understandable.

If we consider maybe Tim is going to follow Jay's updates to ensure that Jay stays away from him, it isn't too much of a stretch for Totheark to address this video to Tim. After all, Totheark's videos have been referenced by Jay, and Tim probably considers them as something that should be observed as well. And we can assume that the "Look to the origins" part is addressed to Tim. Telling him to watch the entire set of videos, or at least the first season?

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I don't think Tim watched the Totheark videos. I really have virtually no evidence, but it's just something I would like to beleive. Like, there's way more to this than Tim even realizes, despite the fact that he probably thinks he knows everything. Another thing I would like to believe is that Tim relapsed and Masky has reemerged and made this video, directing it at Jay, whom Totheark obviously needs to help them solve their conflicts. The only thing I can attribute that to, though, is Masky appearing at the end.
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SignerJ wrote:
I think that it's sensible to believe that Tim didn't watch all of Jay's videos due to anger and time constraints...After all, what would you think if you just discovered that someone had lied to you every time you spoke with them, and that they were actually involved with something that has proven to be very dangerous? And that accounted for most every bad part of your life for the past few years?
Based on the anger Tim must have felt, I don't think it is a stretch that he just skipped around and watched random videos. In fact, the videos in which Jay meets Jessica are at the very end of the FIRST page. We might be able to assume that Tim just watched the latest videos with him in them, and decided to get a bit more "background." So, he watched the last videos on that page, not bothering to actually go to page three. Again, considering how angry he must have been, this is understandable.

If we consider maybe Tim is going to follow Jay's updates to ensure that Jay stays away from him, it isn't too much of a stretch for Totheark to address this video to Tim. After all, Totheark's videos have been referenced by Jay, and Tim probably considers them as something that should be observed as well. And we can assume that the "Look to the origins" part is addressed to Tim. Telling him to watch the entire set of videos, or at least the first season?


To be honest, I feel like if I was Tim, and I finally found footage of what I've been doing over the past three years that I can barely remember, I'd watch all of it, not just skim through it. I dunno, I could buy the whole "Tim watched it backwards thing," but "Tim didn't find it important enough to watch it all" I just find hard to believe.

And, considering Jay said in Entry #19 that he suspected the masked man was totheark, I think he probably by extension watched the totheark videos. It seems like the sensible thing to do. Plus, Tim was in Entry ###### himself, where he said "totheark", and that's on Jay's channel.

But this is all just my personal opinion, and a lot of it is based on my gut feeling. I don't think we can really accurately estimate just how much he watched and how he watched it with the information we've been given, at least not yet.

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What are these "numbers" you keep talking about Jamocha?

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Wow; how long has it been since I last posted?

Anyways, to those that believe that the numbers mean "HIS LIE IN THE DARK," I agree with them.

I mean come on! They make the most sense! Especially when connected with "LOOK TO THE ORIGINS," and when combined with "TRUTH WITH LIGHT," I get this:

"Bring his Origins to Light, for they Lie In The Dark."
Or something like that, fuck you.

PS: I don't give a rat's ass that I was behind on that discussion! Mad

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pravado wrote:
What are these "numbers" you keep talking about Jamocha?


The numbers that run at the end of the video. Did you not see any of those? We've only been speculating what they mean since page one of this thread. :/

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twistedpuppet wrote:
pravado wrote:
What are these "numbers" you keep talking about Jamocha?


The numbers that run at the end of the video. Did you not see any of those? We've only been speculating what they mean since page one of this thread. :/


Well our speculation makes perfect sense and there's no other arrangement of the words that makes sense when talking about origins.

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