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Who burned down Jay's apartment?

The Operator
31%
 31%  [ 23 ]
Tim/Masky
35%
 35%  [ 26 ]
totheark (If it isn't Tim/Masky)
15%
 15%  [ 11 ]
Alex
9%
 9%  [ 7 ]
Other
8%
 8%  [ 6 ]

Total Votes : 73
 

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Who burned down Jay's apartment?
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Drnothing1
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Zebez wrote:
I think it might be Tim who burned down the apartment because I remember in one entry Jay said the ceiling was burned where Tim was found in entry 51. I think that suggests that he's the pyro.


All that really tells us is that the building burned down, starting in that room, and that Tim was in that room in Entry 51. It doesn't mean that Tim specifically set the fire. We know he had history with the Operator before going to the hospital, so my bet is that the Operator set that fire too.
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 		It seems like, because of the Operator's association with fire in the original thread and apparently in the minds of MH's creators, it was probably either him or someone acting under his influence. I wouldn't totally rule out that it could have been Alex, but if so, he was probably being either directly controlled or at least told to act.

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 		apologies for thread necromancy, but aside from the Fight Club joke, has anyone considered the possibility that Jay burned down the apartment complex? I mean, he'd been abducted by Mr Mask (19), he lost a sizable chunk of time to who knows where (24), and following that, he lost six months completely. A bit of fridge logic, maybe, but rather plausible.

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censura_umbra
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Lude wrote:
apologies for thread necromancy, but aside from the Fight Club joke, has anyone considered the possibility that Jay burned down the apartment complex? I mean, he'd been abducted by Mr Mask (19), he lost a sizable chunk of time to who knows where (24), and following that, he lost six months completely. A bit of fridge logic, maybe, but rather plausible.


It is certainly possible, but I think it is almost certainly the Operator.

Here is why:

a) During a radio interview the creators of MH said the the Operator is fond of fire.
b) The operator was certainly present during the fire (as can be seen by the news static
c) Alex talks about the trees in the forest that were burned with the prisoners on them. (Maybe the Operator was one of those prisoners and uses fire as revenge?)
d) The Operator stalked Tim as a child. Tim, after being found in Rosswood park, was brought to a hospital. That hospital was likely the burnt down hospital that they filmed in. The operator probably burned it down while Tim was there so he could have his plaything back


Now, if it wasn't for the interview where they said the Operator LIKES fire, I would assume, due to the tree burning, that the operator would dislike fire and that the hospital/Jay's apartment was set on fire by Tim/TTA to try and combat the Operator.

However I'm sticking with the idea that TO did it, or made someone do it.

PostPosted: Fri Aug 17, 2012 3:35 pm
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NewInTown2
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censura_umbra wrote:
Lude wrote:
apologies for thread necromancy, but aside from the Fight Club joke, has anyone considered the possibility that Jay burned down the apartment complex? I mean, he'd been abducted by Mr Mask (19), he lost a sizable chunk of time to who knows where (24), and following that, he lost six months completely. A bit of fridge logic, maybe, but rather plausible.


It is certainly possible, but I think it is almost certainly the Operator.

Here is why:

a) During a radio interview the creators of MH said the the Operator is fond of fire.
b) The operator was certainly present during the fire (as can be seen by the news static
c) Alex talks about the trees in the forest that were burned with the prisoners on them. (Maybe the Operator was one of those prisoners and uses fire as revenge?)
d) The Operator stalked Tim as a child. Tim, after being found in Rosswood park, was brought to a hospital. That hospital was likely the burnt down hospital that they filmed in. The operator probably burned it down while Tim was there so he could have his plaything back


Now, if it wasn't for the interview where they said the Operator LIKES fire, I would assume, due to the tree burning, that the operator would dislike fire and that the hospital/Jay's apartment was set on fire by Tim/TTA to try and combat the Operator.

However I'm sticking with the idea that TO did it, or made someone do it.


Once again I must burst someones bubble by saying that the whole "burning tree' story is not the origin story of the operator. It was just a creepy story Alex tells (maybe he thinks it is where the operator came from but OOG they have stated that it is not).

It was probably masky (under influence of the operator) since it happened after the threats made in Entry ##### (which was made by masky)

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NewInTown2 wrote:
censura_umbra wrote:
Lude wrote:
apologies for thread necromancy, but aside from the Fight Club joke, has anyone considered the possibility that Jay burned down the apartment complex? I mean, he'd been abducted by Mr Mask (19), he lost a sizable chunk of time to who knows where (24), and following that, he lost six months completely. A bit of fridge logic, maybe, but rather plausible.


It is certainly possible, but I think it is almost certainly the Operator.

Here is why:

a) During a radio interview the creators of MH said the the Operator is fond of fire.
b) The operator was certainly present during the fire (as can be seen by the news static
c) Alex talks about the trees in the forest that were burned with the prisoners on them. (Maybe the Operator was one of those prisoners and uses fire as revenge?)
d) The Operator stalked Tim as a child. Tim, after being found in Rosswood park, was brought to a hospital. That hospital was likely the burnt down hospital that they filmed in. The operator probably burned it down while Tim was there so he could have his plaything back


Now, if it wasn't for the interview where they said the Operator LIKES fire, I would assume, due to the tree burning, that the operator would dislike fire and that the hospital/Jay's apartment was set on fire by Tim/TTA to try and combat the Operator.

However I'm sticking with the idea that TO did it, or made someone do it.


Once again I must burst someones bubble by saying that the whole "burning tree' story is not the origin story of the operator. It was just a creepy story Alex tells (maybe he thinks it is where the operator came from but OOG they have stated that it is not).

It was probably masky (under influence of the operator) since it happened after the threats made in Entry ##### (which was made by masky)


Even without Entry 38, My theory still stands.

Also, who said Masky was under the influence of TO (I see evidence pointing to him being against TO.

AND who's to say Masky made any TTA videos

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censura_umbra wrote:
NewInTown2 wrote:
censura_umbra wrote:
Lude wrote:
apologies for thread necromancy, but aside from the Fight Club joke, has anyone considered the possibility that Jay burned down the apartment complex? I mean, he'd been abducted by Mr Mask (19), he lost a sizable chunk of time to who knows where (24), and following that, he lost six months completely. A bit of fridge logic, maybe, but rather plausible.


It is certainly possible, but I think it is almost certainly the Operator.

Here is why:

a) During a radio interview the creators of MH said the the Operator is fond of fire.
b) The operator was certainly present during the fire (as can be seen by the news static
c) Alex talks about the trees in the forest that were burned with the prisoners on them. (Maybe the Operator was one of those prisoners and uses fire as revenge?)
d) The Operator stalked Tim as a child. Tim, after being found in Rosswood park, was brought to a hospital. That hospital was likely the burnt down hospital that they filmed in. The operator probably burned it down while Tim was there so he could have his plaything back


Now, if it wasn't for the interview where they said the Operator LIKES fire, I would assume, due to the tree burning, that the operator would dislike fire and that the hospital/Jay's apartment was set on fire by Tim/TTA to try and combat the Operator.

However I'm sticking with the idea that TO did it, or made someone do it.


Once again I must burst someones bubble by saying that the whole "burning tree' story is not the origin story of the operator. It was just a creepy story Alex tells (maybe he thinks it is where the operator came from but OOG they have stated that it is not).

It was probably masky (under influence of the operator) since it happened after the threats made in Entry ##### (which was made by masky)


Even without Entry 38, My theory still stands.

Also, who said Masky was under the influence of TO (I see evidence pointing to him being against TO.

AND who's to say Masky made any TTA videos


I would be against the thing that's controlling me...
But okay, maybe it was not under control of the operator. But still... we know almost certain that Tim made some TTA videos (mainly the ones in season 1) because he features in them (eg: Addition, Messages, Warning, Entry ######). And in Entry ##### he makes threats to Jay. After that Jay's apartment burns down. Seems pretty cut and dry to me.

Also the operator has had the possibility before to burn down things he was attacking (like the hotel Jay was staying at). If it is his MO (as in "his special ability") why doesn't he use it?

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censura_umbra
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NewInTown2 wrote:
censura_umbra wrote:
NewInTown2 wrote:
censura_umbra wrote:
Lude wrote:
apologies for thread necromancy, but aside from the Fight Club joke, has anyone considered the possibility that Jay burned down the apartment complex? I mean, he'd been abducted by Mr Mask (19), he lost a sizable chunk of time to who knows where (24), and following that, he lost six months completely. A bit of fridge logic, maybe, but rather plausible.


It is certainly possible, but I think it is almost certainly the Operator.

Here is why:

a) During a radio interview the creators of MH said the the Operator is fond of fire.
b) The operator was certainly present during the fire (as can be seen by the news static
c) Alex talks about the trees in the forest that were burned with the prisoners on them. (Maybe the Operator was one of those prisoners and uses fire as revenge?)
d) The Operator stalked Tim as a child. Tim, after being found in Rosswood park, was brought to a hospital. That hospital was likely the burnt down hospital that they filmed in. The operator probably burned it down while Tim was there so he could have his plaything back


Now, if it wasn't for the interview where they said the Operator LIKES fire, I would assume, due to the tree burning, that the operator would dislike fire and that the hospital/Jay's apartment was set on fire by Tim/TTA to try and combat the Operator.

However I'm sticking with the idea that TO did it, or made someone do it.


Once again I must burst someones bubble by saying that the whole "burning tree' story is not the origin story of the operator. It was just a creepy story Alex tells (maybe he thinks it is where the operator came from but OOG they have stated that it is not).

It was probably masky (under influence of the operator) since it happened after the threats made in Entry ##### (which was made by masky)


Even without Entry 38, My theory still stands.

Also, who said Masky was under the influence of TO (I see evidence pointing to him being against TO.

AND who's to say Masky made any TTA videos


I would be against the thing that's controlling me...
But okay, maybe it was not under control of the operator. But still... we know almost certain that Tim made some TTA videos (mainly the ones in season 1) because he features in them (eg: Addition, Messages, Warning, Entry ######). And in Entry ##### he makes threats to Jay. After that Jay's apartment burns down. Seems pretty cut and dry to me.

Also the operator has had the possibility before to burn down things he was attacking (like the hotel Jay was staying at). If it is his MO (as in "his special ability") why doesn't he use it?


Not saying it is his special ability, just that he enjoys fire. And so what if Masky was in some TTA videos. By that logic, Alex made the birthday TTA video.
And Hoody/TTA could have made the threat then dispatched masky to ensure it

But it is also possible that Masky or Hoody burned down the building to fight the operator or scare Jay

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 		Well, if I was one of the psychopaths on the forums who has a hard-on for Sarah and thought she was ToTheArk, I'd say it was her. But because ancillary dead characters can't do things like that, I'm going to say it was the Operator.

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 		Maybe it was Sarah. If she didn't do it, her roll would seem pretty ancillary and insignificant.

Yup definitely her.


But I always thought that the distortion in the news report implied it was the operator...either that or he was showing up to warn jay that someone was going to burn down his apartment...and REALLY screwed the pooch

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 		Or Jay burned it down himself to get the renter's insurance so he could travel...

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 		I found a pretty accurate rendition of what happened that night in Jay's apartment.




The carpet did it.
Smoking indoors... FOR SHAME!

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 		TTA not only use water in their video, but pay attention to the hoodie shooting a lot of the creek, he brought Jay camera. [edit-spam links removed - kona]

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Kimren wrote:
/discussion.


Yep, that pretty much answers the question.

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