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slendydreaming
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 		I wonder if the Operator is kind of like the aliens in Signs, where water is their weakness? Can't remember which video it was, but Tim took a drink of water and the footage froze, it was the one where the Operator was right outside the window yet no one remembered seeing him. Also, the one where OP showed up at Tim's house during the rainstorm, actually that might tie in with the theory that Tim was the first person to come across the Operator. If water weakens Him, then He knew He had to get to shelter, which makes me wonder if Tim actually saw Him when he went to check the breaker.

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FalloutGhoul
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Why was Jay wearing a jacket and a hat down there? Aren't they having a heat wave down south? Was he cold again?

Just thrown' out another fun theory (once again, I'm not saying this is what I think is true, just fun to speculate)...

If they all were in the hospital when they were kids, maybe the different symptoms they are displaying when the operator might be around are similar to the illnesses they were originally hospitalized with.

Alex spitting up blood, Troy's fevers, chills and blackouts, Tim's seizures, coughing, DD, whatever. Also, the bald figure pictured in some of the TTA videos... someone who had chemo?

"Bald figure?"
Explain.

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aidansean
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I think some kind of coldness, or a chill and perhaps a headache or brain related effect. He definitely has some effect as in one of the entries Alex meets The Operator one on one and the gets weakened and incapacitated without being touched. He also probably has some kind of "dryness" effect due to the priminent feature of water and water bottles in both MH and TTA.


It also might be that Tim has to drink a lot of water because of his kidney problems.


Whoa, that completely changes how I see Tim's water/medication thing from season 1! Now I'm going to have to rewatch all those videos... Entry #20 in particular comes across differently if we swap slendersickness for renal failure.

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Toadbert
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FalloutGhoul wrote:
device wrote:
Why was Jay wearing a jacket and a hat down there? Aren't they having a heat wave down south? Was he cold again?

Just thrown' out another fun theory (once again, I'm not saying this is what I think is true, just fun to speculate)...

If they all were in the hospital when they were kids, maybe the different symptoms they are displaying when the operator might be around are similar to the illnesses they were originally hospitalized with.

Alex spitting up blood, Troy's fevers, chills and blackouts, Tim's seizures, coughing, DD, whatever. Also, the bald figure pictured in some of the TTA videos... someone who had chemo?

"Bald figure?"
Explain.



The one in Inquiry and Decay. In Inquiry it's all blurry and in Decay it has the red eyes of doom. Someone has an avatar of the latter.

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Gante
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Whoa, that completely changes how I see Tim's water/medication thing from season 1! Now I'm going to have to rewatch all those videos... Entry #20 in particular comes across differently if we swap slendersickness for renal failure.


I think that Tim's renal failure is caused by slender exposure, just like his cough. The Operator's attention causes multi-system damage to the body. Poor guy probably won't live to be thirty, even if he does somehow survive Marble Hornets.

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jimi060
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Toadbert wrote:

The one in Inquiry and Decay. In Inquiry it's all blurry and in Decay it has the red eyes of doom. Someone has an avatar of the latter.


I don't think theyre the same. Inquiry just strikes me as a generic face and Decay i think is meant to be TTA's real face because of the lights for eyes and it's just kept bald and featureless to disguise his identity.

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pravado
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 		inquiry is stock footage and decay is not

not the same figure


one thing that does pop up twice though is alex's face in inquiry and it flashes for a second in another totheark, maybe the first or second one of season 3

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Camero
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 		So, here's something worth considering, if we haven't already. When scouting out the location of this burned out hospital, twice we've seen Tim express extreme reluctance to go to this "second building". We've had the room where the fire started identified for us--is it in this second building? I got the impression that it was in the FIRST building.

Given that Tim was a patient at the hospital, it's likely that he witnessed whatever it was that caused the hospital to burn down. This would explain his reluctance to be there, but if the fire didn't start in the second building, why is he more afraid of it?

Again, if I've misunderstood, and the fire DID occur in this second building that he wanted to avoid, plese correct me.

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pravado
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 		I dunno, but if the story ends up being tim went crazy in the institution and burned it down and the operator was born from it and started following tim, that would be lame.

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Camero
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 		Ok, so I had a look at the entries. And the fire DID start in the second building. So now the question is, how did the fire spread to the other building? They have to walk a short distance to get to the second building. There is a bit of greenery in the area, so I suppose it could have spread that way. But there's no way of knowing if it was as heavily wooded back then--it's been abandoned since 1995.

In either case, there's something not entirely regular about this fire.

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DHawk314
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Ok, so I had a look at the entries. And the fire DID start in the second building. So now the question is, how did the fire spread to the other building? They have to walk a short distance to get to the second building. There is a bit of greenery in the area, so I suppose it could have spread that way. But there's no way of knowing if it was as heavily wooded back then--it's been abandoned since 1995.

In either case, there's something not entirely regular about this fire.


How do we know it's been abandoned since 1995? That's the date of Tim's admittance on one of the papers, but it could have been abandoned since then. As a matter of fact, the other paper we saw he was there in 2002.

Also, I'm not sure the other building burned down. We just know the annex did. The other one might have just be abandoned and become a wreck.

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pravado
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Camero wrote:
Ok, so I had a look at the entries. And the fire DID start in the second building. So now the question is, how did the fire spread to the other building? They have to walk a short distance to get to the second building. There is a bit of greenery in the area, so I suppose it could have spread that way. But there's no way of knowing if it was as heavily wooded back then--it's been abandoned since 1995.

In either case, there's something not entirely regular about this fire.


simple answer: whoever burned the one down burned the other one down too

i'm not sold on the whole "this was the hospital tim was at" thing yet. the records don't confirm that this was the same hospital he was admitted to and he's shown in present day in a new hospital, who is to say that that wasn't the one he was going to all along?

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aidansean
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Gante wrote:
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Whoa, that completely changes how I see Tim's water/medication thing from season 1! Now I'm going to have to rewatch all those videos... Entry #20 in particular comes across differently if we swap slendersickness for renal failure.


I think that Tim's renal failure is caused by slender exposure, just like his cough. The Operator's attention causes multi-system damage to the body. Poor guy probably won't live to be thirty, even if he does somehow survive Marble Hornets.


I think I was already thinking that, but the cogs were still turning in my head, filling in the gaps in the argument! I suppose what I meant to say was the renal failure might be a long term consequence of an earlier slendersickness, and not the short term consequence of a recent slendersickness. It doesn't make a big difference to the story, but it does change the nature of the "beast". (On a similar note exposure to the operator could have long term effects on mental health that are different to the short term irritability and paranoia. Some of Tim's current mental health issues could be due to irreparable mental harm from earlier exposures, making the whole mess very hard to untangle.)

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SeantheStone
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 		Entry #60 turned this board into an episode of House.

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conundrum768
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aidansean wrote:

I think I was already thinking that, but the cogs were still turning in my head, filling in the gaps in the argument! I suppose what I meant to say was the renal failure might be a long term consequence of an earlier slendersickness, and not the short term consequence of a recent slendersickness. It doesn't make a big difference to the story, but it does change the nature of the "beast". (On a similar note exposure to the operator could have long term effects on mental health that are different to the short term irritability and paranoia. Some of Tim's current mental health issues could be due to irreparable mental harm from earlier exposures, making the whole mess very hard to untangle.)


It would seem that it is a long-term consequence and that the short-term is more likely, insomnia, coughing, memory loss, and schizophrenia; and, exposure seems to be cumulative.

This, in my opinion, is just more evidence as to how foreign the Operator is to our world. His native world/dimension/universe/plane of existence is so unlike ours that his very presence causes exceedingly deleterious effects on those in proximity.

Please note that simply because being around the Operator is bad for you does not make him malevolent.

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