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Starkley
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jenni42ld wrote:

On the docs, I am leaning towards a surgeon being what The Operator was. And I am also thinking that the date is Oct 1 and not Jan 10. Oct 10 would be the European date formation, but on another sheet, Tim is listed as being 21 KG and 107 cm. Since those are not American measures, I am thinking the date is European. And from a meta perspective, why would they make documents with kg and cm, unless it meant something?


That's not unusual, actually. Plenty of American facilities use Standard measurement. For example, barbells have the kg measurement on them. Hell, American tests are done exclusively using Standard measurement. Medicine is a scientific field, so Standard measurement is necessary.

The date doesn't have anything to do with that, so I'd say it's written the American way rather than the European way.

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ClausDaddy
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With the trail kind of gone cold, I think that there is a good choice for Jay that I have not seen discussed. I think that he should return to the clinic in the town where he met Tim, the one by the Antique shop. Whoever left the medical documents obviously thought that something there would lead Jay along or let Jay know he is lying about something. I think that the clinic would have unedited documents about his health and a number for the doctor that Tim was talking to frequently. This way he would get the lead that hoody or whoever intended him to get, and possibly more like Tim's Mothers phone number.

Also has the possibility of someone redacting(if thats a word) the documents after they were placed in the tunnel for Jay to find come up? For example if Tim or someone knew that he was going to go down there, went down there first and edited the good stuff out? Just a thought.

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Starkley
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First post, welcome to the forum. Smile

And, your theory is a new way to look at things, but if that was the case, why not just take the documents entirely? Misinformation is one thing, but what was left for Jay still seemed to be useful in some respect. I think the original theory works better, where whoever left them for Jay decided not to let him see some things in order to keep him better focused on what was actually there. Or to mess with him. I can't shake the feeling that Totheark at least might be a bit more malevolent than helpful. Too many mocking moments.

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If Jay does decide to track down Tim's mom, I'm picturing it going something like this:

Spoiler (Rollover to View):
Jay shows up on her doorstep and says, "Hello, my name is Jay [last name removed], and I..." but before Jay can spin another cover story, Tim's mom looks overjoyed and says, "Jay? Well welcome back, it's been years! Look at you, you're grown up now! Are you looking for Tim?"

Jay has no idea what she means. She just assumes it's been too long for him to remember, and so she unsuspectingly shows him a photo of Jay and Tim and Alex as kids, taken around the period Tim's nightmares were going on. Jay learns that he and Tim were best friends then.

Jay eventually figures out that HE, not Tim or Alex, is truly the one who the Operator has been haunting (for some unknown reason) this whole time.


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Sylocat wrote:
If Jay does decide to track down Tim's mom, I'm picturing it going something like this:

Spoiler (Rollover to View):
Jay shows up on her doorstep and says, "Hello, my name is Jay [last name removed], and I..." but before Jay can spin another cover story, Tim's mom looks overjoyed and says, "Jay? Well welcome back, it's been years! Look at you, you're grown up now! Are you looking for Tim?"

Jay has no idea what she means. She just assumes it's been too long for him to remember, and so she unsuspectingly shows him a photo of Jay and Tim and Alex as kids, taken around the period Tim's nightmares were going on. Jay learns that he and Tim were best friends then.

Jay eventually figures out that HE, not Tim or Alex, is truly the one who the Operator has been haunting (for some unknown reason) this whole time.

A bit of a problem with your theory.
If what you said about Jay being who was haunted first by The Operator true, then why did ToTheArk post that enttry#27 with Alex's Birthday Party, followed by what appears to be The Operator put over the original video, or the fact that Alex was being stalked in his own home by The Operator in the tapes that Alex gave to Jay?

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MistrPibb
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Maybe Tim bought paintings of beautiful forest fires for art therapy and sold his paintings to the antiques store where his mom works who is also Hoody.

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This changes everything.


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DHawk314
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FalloutGhoul wrote:
Sylocat wrote:
If Jay does decide to track down Tim's mom, I'm picturing it going something like this:

Spoiler (Rollover to View):
Jay shows up on her doorstep and says, "Hello, my name is Jay [last name removed], and I..." but before Jay can spin another cover story, Tim's mom looks overjoyed and says, "Jay? Well welcome back, it's been years! Look at you, you're grown up now! Are you looking for Tim?"

Jay has no idea what she means. She just assumes it's been too long for him to remember, and so she unsuspectingly shows him a photo of Jay and Tim and Alex as kids, taken around the period Tim's nightmares were going on. Jay learns that he and Tim were best friends then.

Jay eventually figures out that HE, not Tim or Alex, is truly the one who the Operator has been haunting (for some unknown reason) this whole time.

A bit of a problem with your theory.
If what you said about Jay being who was haunted first by The Operator true, then why did ToTheArk post that enttry#27 with Alex's Birthday Party, followed by what appears to be The Operator put over the original video, or the fact that Alex was being stalked in his own home by The Operator in the tapes that Alex gave to Jay?


It could be that Jay was friends with Alex before his birthday party. I personally think that the Operator saw Alex as a child at his birthday, and marked him somehow (There was an Operator symbol on little Alex's face) but didn't really bother Alex anymore after that. Then the Operator started stalking Tim, and then Tim got into Alex's movie. Then we have Entry #17 where Tim is there and the Operator is outside the window. The Operator probably recognizes that Alex is marked by him, and starts stalking him too.

Or my personal favorite epileptic tree, the Operator is a time traveler. He met Tim as a kid, then met Alex in Entry #17, and at some point went back in time to Alex's birthday party for some reason. But ya, I don't actually see that happening.

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FalloutGhoul
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DHawk314 wrote:
FalloutGhoul wrote:
Sylocat wrote:
If Jay does decide to track down Tim's mom, I'm picturing it going something like this:

Spoiler (Rollover to View):
Jay shows up on her doorstep and says, "Hello, my name is Jay [last name removed], and I..." but before Jay can spin another cover story, Tim's mom looks overjoyed and says, "Jay? Well welcome back, it's been years! Look at you, you're grown up now! Are you looking for Tim?"

Jay has no idea what she means. She just assumes it's been too long for him to remember, and so she unsuspectingly shows him a photo of Jay and Tim and Alex as kids, taken around the period Tim's nightmares were going on. Jay learns that he and Tim were best friends then.

Jay eventually figures out that HE, not Tim or Alex, is truly the one who the Operator has been haunting (for some unknown reason) this whole time.

A bit of a problem with your theory.
If what you said about Jay being who was haunted first by The Operator true, then why did ToTheArk post that enttry#27 with Alex's Birthday Party, followed by what appears to be The Operator put over the original video, or the fact that Alex was being stalked in his own home by The Operator in the tapes that Alex gave to Jay?


It could be that Jay was friends with Alex before his birthday party. I personally think that the Operator saw Alex as a child at his birthday, and marked him somehow (There was an Operator symbol on little Alex's face) but didn't really bother Alex anymore after that. Then the Operator started stalking Tim, and then Tim got into Alex's movie. Then we have Entry #17 where Tim is there and the Operator is outside the window. The Operator probably recognizes that Alex is marked by him, and starts stalking him too.

Or my personal favorite epileptic tree, the Operator is a time traveler. He met Tim as a kid, then met Alex in Entry #17, and at some point went back in time to Alex's birthday party for some reason. But ya, I don't actually see that happening.

But didn't Alex encounter The Operator earlier than Entry #17, like in Entry #12 when Alex was shooting Marble Hornets, The Operator appears on camera, and Alex goes over to him to get him off the set while Sarah (assumed) asks "What's he doing?"

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DHawk314
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FalloutGhoul wrote:
DHawk314 wrote:
FalloutGhoul wrote:
Sylocat wrote:
If Jay does decide to track down Tim's mom, I'm picturing it going something like this:

Spoiler (Rollover to View):
Jay shows up on her doorstep and says, "Hello, my name is Jay [last name removed], and I..." but before Jay can spin another cover story, Tim's mom looks overjoyed and says, "Jay? Well welcome back, it's been years! Look at you, you're grown up now! Are you looking for Tim?"

Jay has no idea what she means. She just assumes it's been too long for him to remember, and so she unsuspectingly shows him a photo of Jay and Tim and Alex as kids, taken around the period Tim's nightmares were going on. Jay learns that he and Tim were best friends then.

Jay eventually figures out that HE, not Tim or Alex, is truly the one who the Operator has been haunting (for some unknown reason) this whole time.

A bit of a problem with your theory.
If what you said about Jay being who was haunted first by The Operator true, then why did ToTheArk post that enttry#27 with Alex's Birthday Party, followed by what appears to be The Operator put over the original video, or the fact that Alex was being stalked in his own home by The Operator in the tapes that Alex gave to Jay?


It could be that Jay was friends with Alex before his birthday party. I personally think that the Operator saw Alex as a child at his birthday, and marked him somehow (There was an Operator symbol on little Alex's face) but didn't really bother Alex anymore after that. Then the Operator started stalking Tim, and then Tim got into Alex's movie. Then we have Entry #17 where Tim is there and the Operator is outside the window. The Operator probably recognizes that Alex is marked by him, and starts stalking him too.

Or my personal favorite epileptic tree, the Operator is a time traveler. He met Tim as a kid, then met Alex in Entry #17, and at some point went back in time to Alex's birthday party for some reason. But ya, I don't actually see that happening.

But didn't Alex encounter The Operator earlier than Entry #17, like in Entry #12 when Alex was shooting Marble Hornets, The Operator appears on camera, and Alex goes over to him to get him off the set while Sarah (assumed) asks "What's he doing?"


Entry #17 could be before Entry #12. Alex doesn't notice the Operator in Entry #17, so him not recognizing the Operator in Entry #12 could make perfect sense.

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DHawk314 wrote:
FalloutGhoul wrote:
Sylocat wrote:
If Jay does decide to track down Tim's mom, I'm picturing it going something like this:

Spoiler (Rollover to View):
Jay shows up on her doorstep and says, "Hello, my name is Jay [last name removed], and I..." but before Jay can spin another cover story, Tim's mom looks overjoyed and says, "Jay? Well welcome back, it's been years! Look at you, you're grown up now! Are you looking for Tim?"

Jay has no idea what she means. She just assumes it's been too long for him to remember, and so she unsuspectingly shows him a photo of Jay and Tim and Alex as kids, taken around the period Tim's nightmares were going on. Jay learns that he and Tim were best friends then.

Jay eventually figures out that HE, not Tim or Alex, is truly the one who the Operator has been haunting (for some unknown reason) this whole time.

A bit of a problem with your theory.
If what you said about Jay being who was haunted first by The Operator true, then why did ToTheArk post that enttry#27 with Alex's Birthday Party, followed by what appears to be The Operator put over the original video, or the fact that Alex was being stalked in his own home by The Operator in the tapes that Alex gave to Jay?


It could be that Jay was friends with Alex before his birthday party. I personally think that the Operator saw Alex as a child at his birthday, and marked him somehow (There was an Operator symbol on little Alex's face) but didn't really bother Alex anymore after that. Then the Operator started stalking Tim, and then Tim got into Alex's movie. Then we have Entry #17 where Tim is there and the Operator is outside the window. The Operator probably recognizes that Alex is marked by him, and starts stalking him too.

Or my personal favorite epileptic tree, the Operator is a time traveler. He met Tim as a kid, then met Alex in Entry #17, and at some point went back in time to Alex's birthday party for some reason. But ya, I don't actually see that happening.

I think Jay was AT the party. You can tell there were a few kids just off camera.

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I do think it would be interesting if it turned out that they all knew each other as kids, and it makes me think of a possible theory: what if they'd thought of OP as an imaginary friend and brought him to life/let him cross over into our world that way?

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Plausible or not, Sylocat's theory is wicked cool.

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Starkley
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I don't think The Operator has ever actively searched for Jay until Entry #52, and even then, it's somewhat of a singular occurrence. All other entries, as far as I can tell, involved Jay crossing into territory that already HAD TO in them (Rosswood for sure, "Brian's House" debatable, the maintenance tunnel which was part of the burned-out tunnel). Jay's been mostly this unassuming bystander who never really attracted TO's attention the way Alex had it until Entry #52, when Alex began to actively project malice towards Jay.

Because of that difference in attentions, I doubt Jay has any unknown history with The Operator beyond what we've seen with others like Seth and Brian. Either Alex or Tim is most likely where TO stems from, given the current evidence, and Tim only from recent evidence at that.

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Rosswood Park and the MH filming areas

Can you clarify for me, anyone? I had thought that Rosswood Park and environs were in the area where Jay woke up at the beginning of Season 2 (with the hotel documentary), far from the place where Alex and Jay and all lived and shot the main footage of Marble Hornets...like, several states away, that was my impression.
And now...I thought that Jay had come back to his hometown area and found Tim around there, right?

And that the hospital was rather closer to their hometown (though still a while away) than to Rosswood.

So that we were dealing with basically three distinct areas... am I wrong?

And now, by the way, is Jay working out of another hotel/motel, or is he at his folks' home, or in some other place?? I am really not sure and I'm not sure if we have answers or not, but I thought I'd just ask and see if anyone is clearer about this.

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I wonder how Jay gets all the money to travel that much. I remember Tim saying he can't hold a job because he was unreachable most of the time.

Also, maybe they are all friends back when they were kids and then just forgot about each other and then just happened to meet again...

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