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pravado
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Drnothing1 wrote:
dusty special wrote:
The Operator symbol on the operation paper... Has anyone thought maybe The Operator operated on Tim? This would make sense, and verify the "The Operator was a surgeon" thing, explain Tim's relation to The Operator, and why he was scared of the hospital.


Yes. Almost everyone has, but we'll have to wait on varification though.

that would mean he was once human, and that is not going to happen

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Drnothing1
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pravado wrote:
Drnothing1 wrote:
dusty special wrote:
The Operator symbol on the operation paper... Has anyone thought maybe The Operator operated on Tim? This would make sense, and verify the "The Operator was a surgeon" thing, explain Tim's relation to The Operator, and why he was scared of the hospital.


Yes. Almost everyone has, but we'll have to wait on varification though.

that would mean he was once human, and that is not going to happen


Maybe when little Oppy was a child he was the size of a normal adult and learned sign language and had a very convincing mask. And no one suspected a thing

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elkapo
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Drnothing1 wrote:
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Maybe when little Oppy was a child he was the size of a normal adult and learned sign language and had a very convincing mask. And no one suspected a thing


Like thishttp://box.jisko.net/i/cf0890e0.jpg? Laughing

Regarding the comments about the difficulty in recognizing faces because of brain surgery, I want to point out that we have a less dramatic causes, and this is that Tim, as a child, had vision problems. Myopia during the stage of growth is progressive, and without glasses makes faces in diffuse stains.

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Starkley
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Myopia during the stage of growth is progressive, and without glasses makes faces in diffuse stains.


I'm pretty sure that Tim had glasses though. One of the medical documents mentions them. It raised a few eyebrows.

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 		A couple of theories....

I'm tired, so this isn't probably going to make a lick of sense...

We know that The Operator is a mysterious faceless entiny, but what if Hoody and the other embers of To the ark embody parts of The Operator's conciousness (fear, rage, happiness, etc) ? What if he spreads himself through them?

Another theory, but I'm sure someone's probably said this before:
I'm sure: but what if during, Jay found out someone to protect himself from The Operator and was meant to pass the knowledge onto Alex OR 'Totheark' or Tim, but was captured by The Operator and subsquently mindwiped/affected by Slendy sickness? Perhaps, without this protection, people begin to detoriate more rapidly mentally like Masky, Totheark and Alex (?) (who might have some adequte protection provided by The Operator) Totheark learns that Jay is alive, but knows that he has been mindwiped and are resided to their fate. Alex, on the otherhand, knows that the sideeffects of Jay's mindwipe will reside and leaves the tapes in Jay's possession (perhaps the mindwipe left Jay unable to question anything to do with Marble Hornets?), knowing that one day, the mind wipe will reside and Jay will wonder just what the hell happened during the filming of Marble Hornets and why Alex was acting so strangely. Totheark stumble upon the YouTube channel and believe there may be some hope in combating their illness and try to trigger Jay's memory with their responses. They try to prejudice Jay agasint Alex by trying to make him remember what Alex did to him or alternativily, simply are worried about their friend and want him to remember and know that the likelhood then when he does remember and gives Alex what he wants, Alex will kill him. Entry #18 is a warning to Alex that Totheark is and also tries to give the impression that Jay does remember what Alex did to him. Given that we've seen that Totheark seem to have some unusual abbilities (like Masky's super speed) (correct me if I'm wrong here, need to review this series), perhaps one of Totheark have mental powers and they took Jay in entry in an attempt to revive his memories, but it failed and they subsquently erased his memories of their attempt?



I had another creepy thought. What if Tim is The Operator? Given The Operator is a faceless entinty, perhaps it wished to become human or, and tried to possess The Marble Hornet's crew to find a suitable host? Tim, given his mental history, is the weakest and is taken over and The Operator lives out his life? Perhaps, in entry #15, Tim, explaining 'Tim's' apparent nervines as he fought agasint The Operator's influence over him? 'Tim' so far has been manipulating Jay since then in to trusting him?

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fezstudios
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pravado wrote:
Drnothing1 wrote:
dusty special wrote:
The Operator symbol on the operation paper... Has anyone thought maybe The Operator operated on Tim? This would make sense, and verify the "The Operator was a surgeon" thing, explain Tim's relation to The Operator, and why he was scared of the hospital.


Yes. Almost everyone has, but we'll have to wait on varification though.

that would mean he was once human, and that is not going to happen

On the topic of Oppy once being a human, remember when Alex took Jay to Rosswod and told him about criminals being stretched out on trees? I doubt that that has much to do with the story now that we have a more clues about who the Operator is, but it could still be relevant.

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 		I don't think the operator was ever human. There is no real evidence in universe to even remotely suggest it.

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aidansean
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twistedpuppet wrote:
I don't think the operator was ever human. There is no real evidence in universe to even remotely suggest it.


Well, there's the appearance, which is very humanlike (not just in overall structure, but in size and behaviour as well.) There's also the story that Alex tells in the Entry #38.

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OOG we know that this is not the origin story, but in universe there has been nothing to contradict it.


Personally I think the idea that it may have been human once could be quite interesting. Quite a few stories (even a few videogames) have played with this kind of thing before, where a former human is forced to take on a monstrous role and it slowly destroys any remaining sanity/humanity. If it's done properly it could be a worthy reveal.

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Zebez
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aidansean wrote:
twistedpuppet wrote:
I don't think the operator was ever human. There is no real evidence in universe to even remotely suggest it.


Well, there's the appearance, which is very humanlike (not just in overall structure, but in size and behaviour as well.) There's also the story that Alex tells in the Entry #38.

Spoiler (Rollover to View):
OOG we know that this is not the origin story, but in universe there has been nothing to contradict it.


Personally I think the idea that it may have been human once could be quite interesting. Quite a few stories (even a few videogames) have played with this kind of thing before, where a former human is forced to take on a monstrous role and it slowly destroys any remaining sanity/humanity. If it's done properly it could be a worthy reveal.


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I was always a bit confused about why they didn't mean for it to be a origin story. I suppose it's best not to give an origin to this kind of thing but honestly the stretching out and in the forest thing just fit a bit to well to just be a creepy story Alex could tell. Why? Was he just using it as a distraction? However I think if the final showdown does happen in rosswood then I think the story would be appropriate because it would be like the characters being on trial out in the woods for all the things they've done. I hope something like that comes out of that story because it's kind of silly to present something and never come back to it. You can do things for the sake of being creepy I guess, but it's not as satisfying.


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Starkley
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 		I still think the "Oppy at the woods" story was for the sake of giving TO longevity and reputation. Establishes him as both a physical threat and an ancient ("ancient") one. The Operator could very well be responsible for stringing a kid up a tree, but that doesn't mean he originated from the murderers and pedophiles who were there.

Enttry #37 has a bunch of dates that stream around when TO makes his overlay appearance. This could be another example of giving TO some backstory/history, and thereby making him a much larger menace than a twenty-something year-old freakishly tall stalky-mannequin.

As for TO being human once, I can buy that, but I would only be impressed by it if it did it similarly to the way that (Silent Hill spoilers)
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Silent Hill did it for Pyramid Head, with OTHER Pyramid Heads making new ones.


Ideas like that maintain the horror factor.

Like I said, if The Operator is just a singular, vengeful ghost of a pedophile, he's nothing more than a spiffy Freddy Krueger.

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 		I think Jay just needs to get laid. Bet that'd help with his stress factor. I Mean this has been going on for a few years and no record of him going down on anybody...even jessica. That's quite a dry spell if you ask me.
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 		He blacks out every week and you're telling me Jay doesn't get laid?

Two weeks ago he went underground.

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 		haha point taken
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Starkley wrote:
As for TO being human once, I can buy that, but I would only be impressed by it if it did it similarly to the way that (Silent Hill spoilers)
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Silent Hill did it for Pyramid Head, with OTHER Pyramid Heads making new ones.


More Silent Hill Spoilers:
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What the hell are you talking about? That one ending from SH Homecoming??? Please, PLEASE don't use Homecoming when trying to say anything about the Red Pyramid Thing. Even better: Don't use Homecoming for anything at all, it was the worst title in the whole series and disrespects many myths and 'rules' (I mean about the town and it's creatures, not technically - though it does that too) the original Team Silent established. The "Boogeyman" in Homecoming is a rip-off of the Red Pyramid Things in SH2 and the movie and has almost nothing to do with the way he was supposed to be originally. The true Red Pyramid Thing can't make new Red Pyramid Things. It's still somewhat human-based, but in a totally different way.
Sorry if that sounds harsh, but saying anything about SH based on Homecoming is like basing MH theories on third party clips about MH... Sad


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Zebez wrote:
aidansean wrote:
Well, there's the appearance, which is very humanlike (not just in overall structure, but in size and behaviour as well.) There's also the story that Alex tells in the Entry #38.

Spoiler (Rollover to View):
OOG we know that this is not the origin story, but in universe there has been nothing to contradict it.


Spoiler (Rollover to View):
I was always a bit confused about why they didn't mean for it to be a origin story. I suppose it's best not to give an origin to this kind of thing but honestly the stretching out and in the forest thing just fit a bit to well to just be a creepy story Alex could tell. Why? Was he just using it as a distraction? However I think if the final showdown does happen in rosswood then I think the story would be appropriate because it would be like the characters being on trial out in the woods for all the things they've done. I hope something like that comes out of that story because it's kind of silly to present something and never come back to it. You can do things for the sake of being creepy I guess, but it's not as satisfying.


This is pure speculation on my part, and I'm sure they'll come up with some sort of explanation for Creepy Woods Story, but I have to wonder-perhaps the reason trials were held in Rosswood was because the locals knew of the existence of Ye Olde Tall and Faceless One. Maybe that's what they meant by "put on trial before God"...

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