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[Drnothing1]

[Lithp]

I still feel as though I recall Alex telling the story to Jay & Jessica.

I also feel as though it would have been much simpler to say, "You're confusing 2 entries, we don't know where the story is leading yet."

[Starkley]

I don't buy the connection because TO did follow them to the hotel. Alex doesn't need to bring them anywhere if he wants TO to get them; TO can follow them and do whatever it wants to them itself. He's not bound to any specific place.

And his demeanor for Seth's doesn't match up as well as Tim and Brian's supposed "sacrifices." And I just rewatched #50...Alex didn't seem that pissed. He just looked around for a few seconds and then agreed that they could come back later.

It's more like he's covering his tracks. Jessica knew something was up, so Alex couldn't get rid of Jay without covering his tracks. The reason he gave for wanting Jay dead was extremely plausible: Jay had shown those tapes to the world and now knew too much about both Alex and The Operator. Alex moved away to get away from all of that, Jay shows up, then Masked Men and Operator show up (in reverse order). So it makes sense to attribute stuff to Jay.

The word "sacrifice" simplifies all of that too much in my opinion. "Oh he's killing people because he's an Operator slave."

[DHawk314]

The IG Timeline goes like this:
- Jay follows Alex into Rosswood Park. Alex knows Jay is following him. He mistakes the beard guy for Jay. In a fit of rage, Alex kills the beard guy.
- Alex decides he wants to actually kill Jay. He calls Jay and tells him to meet him at Rosswood Park again.
- Jay goes there. Joseph tells a Story. Jay points out it's getting late, and he wants to leave. Alex tells him to meet him there again with Jessica.
- Jay calls Jessica and tells him to meet him with Alex at Rosswood Park. Alex tries to shoot Jay and Jessica. TiMasky saves them. Jay and Jessica go to a hotel.
- The Operator wipes everyone's memories, leading into the "Jay and Jessica in the hotel" entries.

Anyway, when Joseph says "We find out kinda where this leads" he means that him telling this story to Jay after they walk miles into the woods is creepy, and it's obvious in retrospect Alex's mental state had been declining. No one in their right mind would act the way Alex was acting.

Keep in mind that was an unmarked tape, back then the worst thing we'd seen Alex do was break Tim's leg, so Alex being a murderous psychopath wasn't known back then. It was foreshadowing. After watching the commentary I can safely conclude that's what they meant for the entry. There really isn't any other meaning to it. It was spelled out to us fairly explicitly.

[EmeraldWind]

I think the story does a couple things.

1. It establishes Alex as acting very odd.
2. It establishes that the OP isn't new.
3. It establishes that the park and the surrounding town may have be the originating location of the OP.

The third point is key because later on we find that Tim seems to be the one who brought the OP to the MH shoot. Tim is from the area around the park and has been stalked by the OP the whole time.

I'm using originating location not in the sense of where it was born/created, but where it came from before the MH shoot started. We don't need to know where it first came from, but knowing how it entered THIS STORY can be informative.

[Lithp]

I THINK I recall the timeline now, but the point remains, the story has no in-context reason, & that's terrible.

Unless you count insanity, but I don't like doing that, for various reasons.

[DHawk314]

[Lithp]

"And that's terrible" is a meme, but you have adequately explained why I don't like it. Foreshadowing is good, but it is better when it fits smoothly into the plot.

The way it is now, I feel like the same effect could have been done with a creepy smile, or something.

[aidansean]

It might have been Alex trying to scare Jay away. I'm getting more and more used to the idea that Alex isn't always lucid and that the operator controls him to an extent. If he was leading Jay into the woods under the control of the operator then this story could have been him fighting against the influence and telling Jay in code that bad stuff could happen if he follows Alex.

[Starkley]

[Drnothing1]

[Araenna]

[Starkley]

Theory just got legit

[pravado]

[Drnothing1]