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[NickWilliams]

Man that's a good point. TTA must have had very little contact with the operator, so who could it be?

[Zebez]

[Starkley]

[saksxalmo]

[S.Reay051]

I really hope we will get a good explanation why TTA makes Jay do things instead of just doing everything himself...
Maybe TTA is actually a scaredy cat? XD

@saksxalmo:
Thanks, and I'll try:

1. On the one hand, Alex always filmed himself in order to see what's going on around him. And it was very important to him that the tapes kept running all the time, as we learned in Entry #9, for example. But of course he never planned to give these particular tapes to anybody.
But more importantly (OOG):

[evanx275h]

Wanted to reiterate something I posted on the "observation" thread because it's relevant to this. If anyone already found/noticed this, I apologize for repeating it.

Okay, so "observation" made me consider the possibility that TTA is trying to "re-recruit" Tim, to make him remember that he's Masky. This reminded me that an earlier totheark video, which I had forgotten the name of, said "RETURN TO US". I felt it could be significant to this whole "re-recruit Tim" theme, so I browsed through TTA's videos, looking for which one had that line in it.

After looking through every one, I found it. "RETURN TO US" is shown in "Attention". I noticed something strange here.

That video, "Attention", was uploaded on January 10th. That date is the same date that was stressed on the last page that Jay looked at in Entry #60.5 (the page with the oppy symbol that had absolutely everything redacted besides that date).

This is the only reasoning I could come up with for that date in Entry #60.5, and it fits with the whole "return to us" bit in relation to Tim. I found it interesting. It's something to work with, to say the least. I mean, what else could that page be useful for if the date was the only thing on the page besides the symbol?

[Drksrpnt]

[saksxalmo]

[S.Reay051]

Oh right, seems I confused those two. However, I still don't think of them as that similar, even ignoring the appearance. The "amnesia" in the game doesn't come from the shadow. The shadow moves differently - and much much faster. (Unless you count teleporting, but even then that's a whole different type of moving.) The motivation... well we can not be 100% sure about the Operators motivation yet. So it's hard to say.

I really think it's more the game and its scare techniques and atmosphere that bear similarities rather than a certain creature.

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[DHawk314]

Well my first thought is "Someone posted my map on Tumblr? Cool! Can you post a link?"

My seconds one is that when Jay started going to the return address he wasn't necessarily in Marbletown. Entry #26 was posted 24 days after Entry #25, when Jay's apartment was burned down. He'd been on the road, going from hotel to hotel, trying to avoid totheark/Masky/the Operator. He may have been fairly far away from Marbletown at that point.

Same with him waking up at the red tower. At this point he'd run away from the hell hotel and changed his location.

Nice job compiling all that evidence though, and animating it into a unified post. And it really does make me happy that my map was posted on Tumblr.

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The original post is here (and I actually got it from a reblog, so with 22 notes, it's made its way around a little bit).

And you have a very valid point. While I always assumed Jay was just slumming it in hotels around the "Marbleton Metropolitan Area", he very possibly moved even further away, with "Hotelsville" being quite some distance away from Marbleton, and Rosswood Town being even further. While it's not by any means a solid idea, for the sake of this argument I'll assume Tim's comment of "far enough away that we'd have to split gas money" could mean that Marbleton and Rosswood Town are up to 4 hours apart (could be more, could be less, but 4 hours, to me, seems plausible for this kind of thing).

Leaving out that extra half hour, if we assume the line of towns goes Hotelsville ------------- Marbleton ----- Rosswood Town, that would mean that Hotelsville would be roughly 28 hours away from Marbleton. If you figure an average driving speed of 40mph, that means that Hotelsville would be 1120 miles away from Marbleton, and from there, another 160 miles to Rosswood Town.

In Entry #25, uploaded on March 24, 2010, Jay posts the news report of his apartment building burning down. This footage appears to have aired on a local news station. I'm not an expert on local news stations, but my local news station has a coverage area of about 150 miles at its longest distance. I'm also fairly positive that something like an unimportant apartment building catching fire would only be reported on a news station relatively close to where it happened, meaning the hotel Jay was staying in would be at most 150 miles from Marbleton at this point, wherein he says he has been changing his location frequently.

In the beginning of Entry #26 (uploaded on April 18th), Jay states that sometime around April 4th, 2010, he decided to "move far out of state", implying that he was at least still in his home state at that time. That gives him two weeks to change his location. Alabama, which is where it is assumed Marbleton is located, has a distance of about 360 miles between its two furthest points. Even if Marbleton was at the southwesternmost point in Alabama and Jay was at the northeasternmost point on April 4th, his comment of wanting to "move far out of state" would still technically count, as he was still in-state at this time.

However, given the distance of 1120 miles between Hotelsville and Marbleton, this would mean that Jay would have two weeks to move 760 miles, averaging a little over 54 miles a day. That is plausible, as he would only have to drive a little over an hour (again, averaging 40mph), however, we are given no indication that in the interim two weeks he did in fact begin to move far out of state, and I, and I'm sure many of you, assumed he was still in his home state when he was in Hotelsville.

To put it in perspective, using my figures (which are by no means 100% correct), 1280 miles (my assumed distance between Hotelsville and Rosswood Town) is roughly the straight-line distance from Dallas, Texas to Philadelphia, Pennsylvania (of course, actual road distance would be quite a bit shorter than that, but you get my point).

So, in summary, your theory is indeed entirely plausible. I'm just not sure I personally buy it, but if anyone else can back DHawk up over me, please do.

(Also, if anyone has any questions on where I got my figures, or even more detailed sources for my statements, just ask and I'll try to explain my reasoning. Like I said before, none of these are meant to be taken as 100% fact...or even 1% fact. I'm just working with what we were given, canonically, and attempting to draw my own conclusions from there.)

[DHawk314]

Oh I see. I assumed that the abandoned hospital was next to Rosswood Park. Why did I do that again? I'm going back to Entry #58, pretty sure that's where I got it from...

Okay, I figured it out. It's because Tim mentioned that he knew about the abandoned hospital because he "Grew up around here" referring to Rosswood Park Town, so the abandoned hospital has to be pretty close to there. However, I assumed the trees around the hospital were Rosswood Park, and it's probably not that close.

Okay. I'm gonna edit the map a bit.

EDIT: By which I'll post it tomorrow morning, I'm starting to work on it, but I'm going to bed soon.

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If Marbleton and Rosswood Town are indeed relatively close to each other, then the hospital/"Brian's School" could very well be in either town. If the two are a bit further apart, however, I would place the hospital in Rosswood Town, though I don't think it (along with the area near the railroad tracks) are necessarily right next to Rosswood Park itself. They may be on opposite sides of the town, really.

I think the map you have works pretty well. I'm going to save it and look over it the next couple days while on break at work and see if I can't think of a better placement for some of the locations (with canon sources, of course), but as it is it looks pretty solid. My only issue is the 2+ day drive Jay took from the hotel in Entry #26 to the house in the field in Entry #34. I'm just trying to figure out placement and distances. If I think of a revision for the map, I will either attempt it myself or just post my thoughts.

[Drnothing1]

Didn't someone post an OOG map of the area? I can't for the life of me remember which thread it was in.