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SOLVED! (no, really) - Reggie's blog (Jan 19, 2004)
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addlepated
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 		The image in the middle was bothering me all night. I searched high and low for a mosque that had all the features: a round dome, one minaret, pine trees, the small domes in the foreground. Based on [img=http://holylandarchive.com/photos_src/IJNTDR08_800.jpg]this picture[/img], I think that the drawing is the Temple Mount.

This site is very important in Christian, Jewish, and Islamic religions as a key location for end-times prophecies. According to http://www.100megsfree4.com/farshores/atemount.htm:
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For Jews, the day a third Temple rises on the site of the old is inextricably linked to the coming of the Messiah.

In Christian doomsday theology, Jews' construction of the third Temple would be another ordained step toward the Antichrist, the Apocalypse and the Second Coming -- as was the founding of the state of Israel itself.

In some Muslim beliefs, meanwhile, Jerusalem will be the field for the final battle between good and evil.


The fish is one of the most famous symbols of Christianity, and there just so happens to be a fish encircling the mosque. This gives us the three big religions pictured. Four, if you count New Age and astrology. Hello, Shirley MacLaine! Wink

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MageSteff
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 		Ideas
In chat Lazlo pointed out that if you take the three inner circles with their spaces and subtract the ones with the zodiac symbols in them you have 64 spaces, would an 8x8 grid help any?
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OnyxW_Hun
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 		All I got until now is writing down which Hebrew signs the zodiac symbols hide, and which inner-side pozition they are. Here is the result:
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		InMidOut	Sign	Inner


Aries		M  M  -	Mem	Yod


Taurus		-  S  S	Samech	Chet


Gemini		-  F  F	Pe	Vav


Cancer		-  Tz Tz	Tzade	He


Leo		-  R  R	Resh	Gimel


Virgo		T  T  -	Tav	Aleph


Libra		A  A  -	Aleph	Tav


Scorpio		-  G  G	Gimel	Resh


Sagittarius	-  -  H	He	Tzade


Capricorn		Z  Z  -	Zayin	Ayin


Aquarius		T  T  T	Tet	Nun


Pisces		Kh Kh ?	Kaf	Lamed



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Flynn
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 		Trout me if this has already been done to death Shocked , but I've been looking at the page that's generated after you enter a logon/password before you're bounced. Do we already know if/what the significance of the string of letters shown in the password section? In other words, am I wasting my time investigating it? Wink

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MageSteff
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Flynn wrote:
Trout me if this has already been done to death Shocked , but I've been looking at the page that's generated after you enter a logon/password before you're bounced. Do we already know if/what the significance of the string of letters shown in the password section? In other words, am I wasting my time investigating it? Wink


That's the password encryption program, see Shadow.txt discussion, John the Ripper was used to decode those. All they are is encrytion of the word you entered.
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Flynn
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 		Thanks Smile - still playing catch up!

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 		Torah
As the last message took us to the book of Enoch, could the Hebrew letters be taking us to the Torah?

Why did I skip Hebrew school?

The mosque in the drawing could be the Dome of the Rock as I believe both Addlepated and AnthraX mentioned.

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Flynn
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 		Not very helpful to the puzzling, but my favourite kickout site - and it might (but probably won't) be significant that it's the only funny one I've seen so far. '2 am in case of Daylight Saving' now being my favourite Armageddon quote ever... Click here

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colin
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Magesteff wrote:
Flynn wrote:
Trout me if this has already been done to death Shocked , but I've been looking at the page that's generated after you enter a logon/password before you're bounced. Do we already know if/what the significance of the string of letters shown in the password section? In other words, am I wasting my time investigating it? Wink


That's the password encryption program, see Shadow.txt discussion, John the Ripper was used to decode those. All they are is encrytion of the word you entered.


It appears random to me, if you enter nothing it still makes a string, enter the same thing and submit several times and the string changes.(it should stay the same)

Not really relavent but fyi, orb.jpg is computer generated

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Flynn
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It appears random to me, if you enter nothing it still makes a string, enter the same thing and submit several times and the string changes.(it should stay the same)


I didn't think it was totally random, that's what got me interested. On my machine I always get $1$ at the start, and something else (can't remember what right now) at the same point in the string. That's what got me interested, FWIW I think the actual checking is done on the server maybe before the "middle page" is even generated. That's what made me wonder about that string, 'cos it seems irrelevant. Something like that in an ARG is a bit suspicious.

Still, I'm going to ignore it for the minute. Still worrying away at that damn picture... Evil or Very Mad

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addlepated
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Flynn wrote:
I didn't think it was totally random, that's what got me interested. On my machine I always get $1$ at the start, and something else (can't remember what right now) at the same point in the string. That's what got me interested, FWIW I think the actual checking is done on the server maybe before the "middle page" is even generated. That's what made me wonder about that string, 'cos it seems irrelevant. Something like that in an ARG is a bit suspicious.


The passwords are FreeBSD MD5 passwords. Check out this thread for previous discussion on the matter.

Do not be distracted by shiny passwords, grasshoppah! Think on the orb, the orb... the oooooooooooorb...

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MageSteff
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 		Hebrew alphabets
Enaxor pointed out in chat that the letters int he Hebrew alpha are broken into three groups:
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the mother letters,
the 7 double letters and
the simple letters, the zodiac signs are the single letters

heh, vau, zain, cheth teth yod lamed nun samech ayin tzaddi Qoph
those are the single letters and corrolate in order to the signs of the zodiac starting with aires=heh

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OnyxW_Hun
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 		Then I must have miscalculated something. What I've written a few posts ago (In Spoiler) is something different.

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 		I re-created the orb in table form. I hope it helps someone out there solve this thing.
inner circle.doc
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MageSteff
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enaxor wrote:
I re-created the orb in table form. I hope it helps someone out there solve this thing.


Maybe I'm grsping at straws, but does it strike anyone else as odd that the hebrew letters in the "Zodiac" circles do not follow the same order as the "inner" circle? The order in the Zodiac circles is not even just a matter of shifting over a few spaces as if it was a rot-x, it... wait, its Backwards order....
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