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Starkley
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And randomly checked off "General" on anaesthesia and "Clean" for wound? That's really random and unnecessary. Not really that likely in my opinion, that he forged the documents. For one thing, Totheark seems to be leading Jay forwards; it'd be odd for him to just outright mislead Jay for no real reason.

Basically guys, this would be A LOT of effort for extremely little return if TO forged the documents or just had the date there to make Jay go back to an earlier Totheark video - which, again, 1000 to 1, Jay will never do.
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aidansean
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Starkley wrote:
That would mean that TTA set up something he wanted to tell Jay so that he could tell it to Jay again 2 years later in a cryptic fashion.

Sure, whatever floats your boat.


Not quite, it just means tta could refer to it at some point in the future. By the same reasoning Alex gave Jay the tapes so he would look at them in 3 years time and get stalked by the operator.

For what it's worth I don't think it's very likely, I'm just pointing out that it's not as far out as some people might think.

(Also, there are about 100 videos before Entry #60.5, so the chance of a video occurring on any given date is about 1 in 4, which is really quite high.

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aidansean wrote:

Not quite, it just means tta could refer to it at some point in the future. By the same reasoning Alex gave Jay the tapes so he would look at them in 3 years time and get stalked by the operator.


My point is that it's absurd, hahaha. So yeah. But Alex didn't even want Jay to look at the tapes. There's no precedent for TTA wanting Jay to watch a video twice, or for TTA really directly referring to an earlier video.

aidansean wrote:
(Also, there are about 100 videos before Entry #60.5, so the chance of a video occurring on any given date is about 1 in 4, which is really quite high.


Yeah, this is also what I was thinking. Any video could happen to be there, really.
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Starkley wrote:
aidansean wrote:

Not quite, it just means tta could refer to it at some point in the future. By the same reasoning Alex gave Jay the tapes so he would look at them in 3 years time and get stalked by the operator.


My point is that it's absurd, hahaha. So yeah. But Alex didn't even want Jay to look at the tapes. There's no precedent for TTA wanting Jay to watch a video twice, or for TTA really directly referring to an earlier video.


This is way off topic now, but I'm fairly confident Alex wanted Jay (or someone) to watch the tapes. Otherwise the "confession" in Entry #22 makes no sense- there's no reason for Alex to confess to the tape and then burn it soon after, unless he just wants to be cathartic. We also know he didn't give Jay all the tapes, so he was consciously giving him a biased picture of what happened.

Love your sig BTW. Very Happy

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aidansean wrote:

This is way off topic now, but I'm fairly confident Alex wanted Jay (or someone) to watch the tapes. Otherwise the "confession" in Entry #22 makes no sense- there's no reason for Alex to confess to the tape and then burn it soon after, unless he just wants to be cathartic. We also know he didn't give Jay all the tapes, so he was consciously giving him a biased picture of what happened.


#22 was found in the red tower, which Jay found for reasons kind of extraneous from the videos. (Someone anonymous told him to look at "Brian's house," where he found the "at the tower" statement, which took him there to find #22 hidden away, and we don't necessarily know that Alex was the one who put it there.) Not necessarily tied to the rest of the tapes, because Alex never gave it to Jay.

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Starkley wrote:
aidansean wrote:

This is way off topic now, but I'm fairly confident Alex wanted Jay (or someone) to watch the tapes. Otherwise the "confession" in Entry #22 makes no sense- there's no reason for Alex to confess to the tape and then burn it soon after, unless he just wants to be cathartic. We also know he didn't give Jay all the tapes, so he was consciously giving him a biased picture of what happened.


#22 was found in the red tower, which Jay found for reasons kind of extraneous from the videos. (Someone anonymous told him to look at "Brian's house," where he found the "at the tower" statement, which took him there to find #22 hidden away, and we don't necessarily know that Alex was the one who put it there.) Not necessarily tied to the rest of the tapes, because Alex never gave it to Jay.

And, thanks Very Happy


Whoa, my memory's bad tonight. Just to clear up my muddy thinking a little: We know Alex only gave Jay some of the tapes, so he went out of his way to pick ones that didn't make himself look like a bad guy. He "confessed" to a tape he was about to burn, which suggests he might have wanted someone to see it, even if he wasn't sure. (In the end it turns out he didn't want anyone to see that tape after all. That's the bit I totally forgot.) Then he ends up giving Jay just enough to get him curious. What a devious bastard.

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It's worth noting that Alex didn't have a lot of the tapes that incriminated him. Tim was the one who had all the tapes seen in Season 3. If Alex's #22 experience was as bad as it looked, he could have lost his memory and genuinely thought himself innocent. #51 would have then been an anomaly that he couldn't explain, which could have been why he kept it.

Just, Alex didn't really keep that much hidden from Jay when he gave him those tapes...one or two at most, and there wasn't much reason for him to hide #22, unless it was stolen.

Which is fully possible. Totheark seemed to know something would be at the tower.
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SaferSaturnX wrote:
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do you guys realize that in order for tta to synchronize all this, he would have had to have tim's documents back in 2010 and purposely post a video on that date knowing that two years in the future jay's investigation would still be ongoing and that he could call it back

why would he do that, comeon now


Or TTA simply forged the medical document with the date to make it look like the others. All the information's redacted anyways, he could have made it the day before he left it in the tunnel.


That would mean he used blank forms which would mean that the information is stuff hoody made up, which would be a red herring and a waste of an entry

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Can someone explain to me the reasoning of why Tim would need pills to put on a mask?


He doesn't. What I was suggesting was that taking the pills leads to craziness & paranoia. Craziness & paranoia leads to these unnecessarily convoluted behaviors. It just so happens that some of them protect from The Operator.

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Two new tweets:

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do you hear thunder


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look outside when the lightning flashes


Some crap is about to go down...

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pravado wrote:
saksxalmo wrote:
pravado wrote:
Yuki wrote:
Zurtrinik wrote:
Jay just posted the video on his twitter with a 0 in front of the link, he also put a x in front of the picture from the video before it was posted and putting them together makes the operator symbol. I dont know if this supports the "twitter was hacked" or "jay posted it" theories but it is an interesting touch.
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that or Jay/TTA is trying to give us hugs and kisses...


There's definitely something wrong with Jay, or he's not in control of the Twitter feed anymore.


pretty sure you'd have to be legit retarded to not realize that totheark hacked his twitter account


Great, let's insult people for having different theories now.

Some people have hypothesized that Jay is either in a trance or a Masky-like state and that he's the one posting the tweets. It's totally plausible seeing that the situations surrounding enttry #37 and entry ###### were equally suspicious.

It doesn't make people retarded just because they disagree with you...



Yes it does

the video linked was a totheark video

anyone who thinks anyone but totheark hacked jays account is a moron who wants so desperately for the obvious to not be truth


totheark can not be jay, how can you easily forget return, exit, etc? and if you're gonna say "well jay just took over the account!" - i'm gonna call you a dumbass

plus there was a tta in season 3 that is vidoetaping jay


Pravado, do you really have to be a dick EVERY time you post? WHAT IS THE POINT OF THIS??

TTA is likely multiple people, have you forgotten (at the very least, it's Hoody and Masky)? It's entirely possible that Jay is a part of that (as a Masky like Tim is.)

As for "denying the truth"... May I remind you that you've had plenty of ridiculous, very unlikely theories of your own (Tim is evil and Alex is innocent despite the fact that Alex MURDERED someone.)

So yeah. Just because you aren't capable of seeing a situation from multiple perspectives doesn't mean people who do are idiots.
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pravado wrote:
Stevie D wrote:
pravado wrote:
saksxalmo wrote:
pravado wrote:
Yuki wrote:
Zurtrinik wrote:
Jay just posted the video on his twitter with a 0 in front of the link, he also put a x in front of the picture from the video before it was posted and putting them together makes the operator symbol. I dont know if this supports the "twitter was hacked" or "jay posted it" theories but it is an interesting touch.
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that or Jay/TTA is trying to give us hugs and kisses...


There's definitely something wrong with Jay, or he's not in control of the Twitter feed anymore.


pretty sure you'd have to be legit retarded to not realize that totheark hacked his twitter account


Great, let's insult people for having different theories now.

Some people have hypothesized that Jay is either in a trance or a Masky-like state and that he's the one posting the tweets. It's totally plausible seeing that the situations surrounding enttry #37 and entry ###### were equally suspicious.

It doesn't make people retarded just because they disagree with you...



Yes it does

the video linked was a totheark video

anyone who thinks anyone but totheark hacked jays account is a moron who wants so desperately for the obvious to not be truth


totheark can not be jay, how can you easily forget return, exit, etc? and if you're gonna say "well jay just took over the account!" - i'm gonna call you a dumbass

plus there was a tta in season 3 that is vidoetaping jay




Dude, get some friends. MH is a fun thing we all watch and try to figure out together and you criticize it like it's up for an Academy Award. The only thing that is dumb is how you come on here everyday and hate on it. You tell everyone that you're entitled to your opinion and you are. You are not, however, entitled to call people names (especially calling them retarded) because they disagree with you.


they are blatantly ignoring facts and that's why i'm calling them dumb. it has nothing to do with opinions.


No one is blatantly ignoring facts. There is support for both sides of the argument, and whatever "facts" you think are being ignored are actually open to interpretation (like the "fact" that TTA is one person.)

Oh, and calling people dumb for disagreeing with you is very mature.
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When it showed Tim at the window, for a second I thought was someone outside the window, standing and blocking it, while someone filmed them.

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mmm ... What will contain the box located on the bedside table of Tim, behind the pills and a glass of water? More pills? Masky mask? The answer to EVERYTHING? Rolling Eyes

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Well, TTA is definitely overdue. And this wasn't anything special. It hardly moves the plot. I understand they're trying to keep us happy, but I wish they'd just let us know "Hey, shooting schedule is really hard to come by these days. Entries will be more spaced out, but we're not quitting!" than to post something every 2 to 3 weeks and it be.. well not very good or enlightening. Tim is taking pills. We've known this since season one. TTA stalks people. We've known this since season one. Thus I feel like this video hasn't done very much (if anything) to advance the plot, or drive the story, or even be interesting. I love this series, but I gotta say, there's nothing particularly interesting here, which is probably just bought time until the next release of substantial content and interest.

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