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[twistedpuppet]

Hate to break it to you, but, TTA videos NEVER advance the plot. Troy and company keep it that way.

[Jamocha101]

[Starkley]

[aidansean]

And "Messages" told Jay "You have been keeping secrets" which prompted him to tell the audience he was recording himself.

[twistedpuppet]

You know what? This video was most likely put up to confirm, beyond all doubt, that ToTheArk is not Tim. It shows TTA stalking Tim as well. Therefore, Tim cannot be TTA or the one posting the videos.

[DHawk314]

I still think there's evidence pointing towards the idea that Timasky and Hoody used to run the account together. I mean, it's what I personally think. But ya, I think it's safe to assume that hasn't been true since the begining of this season.

[twistedpuppet]

[DHawk314]

Well, there's more evidence besides Jay theorizing it, that Masky was part of totheark. For instance, Signal said "come back, find me" referring Brian's house. When he returned to Brian's house, Masky was there. totheark telling Jay he was keeping secrets referred to Jay filming himself. The only person who was in Jay's house and would know he was filming himself would be Masky, because Jay was monitoring his entire house and only Masky was ever there. And, that totheark video had a picture of Tim in it. And the next video had footage from the night Masky and Jay disappeared together. And, a bunch of the videos either lure Jay back to Brian's house or are filmed in Brian's house, and Masky was always in Brian's house. Plus a hand full of them actually have Masky in them. And either way we know Masky and Hoody worked together back then.

I think this video basically confirms Tim and totheark aren't working together anymore, and by extension Tim can't be part of totheark now, but I think it's a stretch to say it confirms Tim was never part of totheark. Also, one of the major themes this season is that we're seeing Tim as his normal self, and that he's a very different person because of it. What I think this video does actually show is that since Tim's de-maskification, his relationship with totheark has changed.

[pravado]

The problem with theories like that is that you have to take into consideration how small the story was in season 1. At some point they were going to scrap totheark altogether.

So while Tim may have been a part of it in season 1, it might not turn out to have been canon like some of the other stuff from season 1.

[KTsteve]

[pravado]

it's obvious that some things aren't canon just because they never planned for it, they don't have to confirm anything. they definitely said they were going to scrap totheark but kept it going because fans liked it.


basically, to me, anything that i'm pretty sure will never be brought up again is to be taken as non canon.

the bullet casing, the blood on alex's face in entry 14, the operator running (also running AWAY from alex) in entry 4, the operator walking right past jay in return, etc

these are all things that, with the information we have now, don't fit



the key and pills really had no planned out answer so they just made some shit up, entry 29 is most likely not canon unless it's alex going back the day jay breaks into his place and finds entry 51, things like this are things that were either just bad planning or whatever, but i'd throw tim being in totheark in here

[pravado]

also we still have no confirmation that hoody and totheark are working together.

we know hoody and tim were at one point. totheark's "his origins lie in the dark" or w/e don't confirm anything, he could have went there after seeing the footage jay posted and saw what was in the folder. hell, it's most likely that he went in there because of that same totheark video being taped down there.

there's also nothing proving that totheark is more than one person (jay's tweets are guesses and jay isn't always right, seen by some season 1 stuff), or that he's affilliated with anyone. i still think that seth is totheark, and brian is hoody.

[onetruepurple]

[DHawk314]

You can't just say that because they didn't plan Season 1 to be what it eventually became that all of the evidence is completely irrelevant. They're not that inconsistent. There's probably ideas they had that never panned out fully, and I can see stuff like the bullet casing and vague Operator actions not mattering anymore. But the entire premise of Masky from Season 1 was that totheark led Jay to Brian's house and Masky was there. I refuse to completely disregard all of that evidence for no good reason.

Also, there is evidence from Season 2 that Hoody is affiliated with totheark. totheark films Jay outside of his car, Jay goes to Rosswood the next morning, totheark says he saw Jay at Rosswood that day, and then the next entry shows Hoody followed Jay into Rosswood. I admit Hoody didn't come out and say "Hey I'm totheark" but it's about as close as your gonna get. totheak is at least affiliated with Hoody, and he's clearly affiliated with Timasky. Also, Timasky is still in totheark videos in Season 2. So ya, retcon my ass.

[KTsteve]