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(Trailhead?) What Makes The Eyes Fall?
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TallulahBelle
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icerimp wrote:
And in typical ARG fashion, it's all so obvious now.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Yellow_Wallpaper

This is what we were being pointed at.


Nice catch!

My husband (who I'm ashamed to admit watches the videos for me and recaps them before I dare to watch) explained the drawing as a caged girl surrounded by yellow french lillies (the symbols that are on that old kind of patterned, velvety wallpapers that's on the photo). The corn field was my interpretation (also having watched stuff like Children of the Corn and Wickerman), and I'm pretty sure it was faulty. She is indeed trapped in a room with yellow wallpaper.

Since Charlotte seems to be in the room with Jon (who's a guy after all, right?), sitting at his computer, my guess is that the two Charlottes are in her (being schitzo and all). So who is Jane? My first instinct was Jane Eyre, who's incidentally written by another Charlotte, Bronte.


A lot has happened whilst I was sleeping, so I'm sure I'll be back with more once I go throuh it a second time.


Edit: There's a third female writer of that age named Charlotte, Charlotte Mary Yonge. May not be relevant, but I thought I'd leave it here.

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 		Since you're all sleeping, I will break the unwritten rules and post more than once in a row. All my apologies.

Since Charlotte is all about gothic teenage girl torment, perhaps the Cures song Charlotte Sometimes can play a role here too. It's based on another book by the same name, Charlotte Sometimes. Wikipedia has this to say about it:

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The story is centred around a girl called Charlotte, who, not long after starting at a boarding school, finds that she has mysteriously travelled back more than forty years. The teachers and other students call her "Clare", the girl in whose shoes Charlotte finds herself. Charlotte and Clare mysteriously exchange places each night, each one alternating between the years 1918 and Charlotte's time.

Although Charlotte and Clare never meet each other, they communicate with one another by writing notes. The girls are faced with the disconcerting scenario of finding out how to live each other's lives without being discovered.

The story is entirely written from Charlotte's point of view: Clare herself never appears in the narrative. As the story progresses, Charlotte becomes trapped in Clare's time. Charlotte struggles to maintain her own identity as Charlotte, whilst living Clare's life in Clare's time.


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 		In reference to Charlotte's/Jane's creepy tweets:
--When she replied about not being the creature behind Jon's boss in the drawing, she also says "there is more to this mythos than a simple creeping woman" (spaces added where I believe they belong). The word "Mythos" instantly brings HP Lovecraft to mind--specifically the Cthulhu mythos--but her statement also seems to indicate that Jane is just the tip of the iceberg (or at least not the only important factor of the story).
--When Retryx asked if she put the "ES" on "jon's" blinds, she responded "i put the symbols on my blinds, yes" (spaces and comma added) NOT "i put the symbols on my blind eyes" which retryx relayed to us earlier in this thread. She clearly changed the "ES" to "symbols" (meaning they probably aren't the letters "ES") and the possession went from "Jon's blinds" to "my (Jane's or maybe Charlotte's) blinds".

BIG NEWS - I found the "ES", which is actually a Nordic rune that means "Sun".
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sowilo

I'm pretty sure many cultures compared the sun to an eye, or even believed the sun was a god's eye [citation needed]. There's a mewithoutYou song with lyrics saying, "The sun and the moon are my Father's eyes" and if I remember correctly the song is a reference to Sufism or a Sufi poem [again, citation needed].

EDIT: I just noticed that the "E" and "S" are two different ways of writing the same symbol, as opposed to making up one symbol. I'm not sure why the same rune would be written twice in different manners next to one another, but maybe it changes the meaning? I know nothing of Nordic runes.

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 		I had the audacity to backpedal, revers and slow down the audio of the latest video, and it turns out it is thee short extracts from The Yellow Wallpaper (I will paste the transcript below)


Two things stand out in the text:

- The main character (who gets locked up in her room with the yellow wallpaper by her nasty doctor husband) starts seeing a woman behind bars creeping about behind the pattern in the wallpaper.

- The womans husband is called John.


Here's the transcript:

Quote:
Looked at in one way each breadth stands alone, the bloated curves and flourishes--a kind of "debased Romanesque" with delirium tremens--go waddling up and down in isolated columns of fatuity.
But, on the other hand, they connect diagonally, and the sprawling outlines run off in great slanting waves of optic horror, like a lot of wallowing seaweeds in full chase.
<snip>

Of course I never mention it to them any more--I am too wise,--but I keep watch of it all the same.
There are things in that paper that nobody knows but me, or ever will.
Behind that outside pattern the dim shapes get clearer every day.
It is always the same shape, only very numerous.
And it is like a woman stooping down and creeping about behind that pattern. I don't like it a bit. I wonder--I begin to think--I wish John would take me away from here!

<snip>

By moonlight--the moon shines in all night when there is a moon--I wouldn't know it was the same paper.
At night in any kind of light, in twilight, candlelight, lamplight, and worst of all by moonlight, it becomes bars! The outside pattern I mean, and the woman behind it is as plain as can be.
I didn't realize for a long time what the thing was that showed behind, that dim sub-pattern, but now I am quite sure it is a woman.
By daylight she is subdued, quiet. I fancy it is the pattern that keeps her so still. It is so puzzling. It keeps me quiet by the hour.



I will try to upload the reversed file to Soundcloud, but it might take a while.

Edit: Nopse, here it is: http://soundcloud.com/tallulah_belle/

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TallulahBelle wrote:
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Looked at in one way each breadth stands alone, the bloated curves and flourishes--a kind of "debased Romanesque" with delirium tremens--go waddling up and down in isolated columns of fatuity.
But, on the other hand, they connect diagonally, and the sprawling outlines run off in great slanting waves of optic horror, like a lot of wallowing seaweeds in full chase.
<snip>

Of course I never mention it to them any more--I am too wise,--but I keep watch of it all the same.
There are things in that paper that nobody knows but me, or ever will.
Behind that outside pattern the dim shapes get clearer every day.
It is always the same shape, only very numerous.
And it is like a woman stooping down and creeping about behind that pattern. I don't like it a bit. I wonder--I begin to think--I wish John would take me away from here!

<snip>

By moonlight--the moon shines in all night when there is a moon--I wouldn't know it was the same paper.
At night in any kind of light, in twilight, candlelight, lamplight, and worst of all by moonlight, it becomes bars! The outside pattern I mean, and the woman behind it is as plain as can be.
I didn't realize for a long time what the thing was that showed behind, that dim sub-pattern, but now I am quite sure it is a woman.
By daylight she is subdued, quiet. I fancy it is the pattern that keeps her so still. It is so puzzling. It keeps me quiet by the hour.


Jane (or evil-Charlotte) made it clear in her tweets and the video descriptions that she is the creeping woman. If we use the rules that are set out in this excerpt, the creeping woman is subdued in the daylight. That explains why all of her tweets came at night time. But I don't understand why she wrote the five sets of sun runes on the blinds if daytime seems to be her enemy.

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TallulahBelle
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pmiller08 wrote:

Jane (or evil-Charlotte) made it clear in her tweets and the video descriptions that she is the creeping woman. If we use the rules that are set out in this excerpt, the creeping woman is subdued in the daylight. That explains why all of her tweets came at night time. But I don't understand why she wrote the five sets of sun runes on the blinds if daytime seems to be her enemy.


So Charlotte would be the protagonist in the book - the woman being locked in her room by her husband, Jane/Charlotte who uses the twitter account at night would be the woman in the wallpaper, and Jon would be Charlottes evil doctor husband?


The torn piece of paper in "three" on deviant art seems to be a piece of wallpaper with french lillies on, much like the wallpaper in "one". So someone has indeed torn a bit off.

The images flashing by in the latest video (wALLPAPER, at about 0:25 and 0:35)) is just the last frame of the bone mask with the red symbol. Any ideas as to what the red symbol is?



These are my main concerns right now: What's written on the stones? What's with the sun symbols? And why on earth is Charlottes head itching?


Edit: Here's a link to a longer excerpt of The Yellow Wallpaper http://www.library.csi.cuny.edu/dept/history/lavender/wallpaper.html

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pmiller08 wrote:
In reference to Charlotte's/Jane's creepy tweets:
--When she replied about not being the creature behind Jon's boss in the drawing, she also says "there is more to this mythos than a simple creeping woman" (spaces added where I believe they belong). The word "Mythos" instantly brings HP Lovecraft to mind--specifically the Cthulhu mythos--but her statement also seems to indicate that Jane is just the tip of the iceberg (or at least not the only important factor of the story).
--When Retryx asked if she put the "ES" on "jon's" blinds, she responded "i put the symbols on my blinds, yes" (spaces and comma added) NOT "i put the symbols on my blind eyes" which retryx relayed to us earlier in this thread. She clearly changed the "ES" to "symbols" (meaning they probably aren't the letters "ES") and the possession went from "Jon's blinds" to "my (Jane's or maybe Charlotte's) blinds".

BIG NEWS - I found the "ES", which is actually a Nordic rune that means "Sun".
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sowilo

I'm pretty sure many cultures compared the sun to an eye, or even believed the sun was a god's eye [citation needed]. There's a mewithoutYou song with lyrics saying, "The sun and the moon are my Father's eyes" and if I remember correctly the song is a reference to Sufism or a Sufi poem [again, citation needed].

EDIT: I just noticed that the "E" and "S" are two different ways of writing the same symbol, as opposed to making up one symbol. I'm not sure why the same rune would be written twice in different manners next to one another, but maybe it changes the meaning? I know nothing of Nordic runes.


Oh, oh, before I go: That Wikipage says that sowilo translates to suil in Old Irish, which means "eye".

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pmiller08 wrote:
BIG NEWS - I found the "ES", which is actually a Nordic rune that means "Sun".http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sowilo

Beaut find Brownie If the writing on the Stones also turns out to be Runes this Runic alphabet LINK may be more useful than the Omniglot Runic Link I posted on p.7
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TallulahBelle wrote:
icerimp wrote:
And in typical ARG fashion, it's all so obvious now.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Yellow_Wallpaper

This is what we were being pointed at.


Nice catch!

My husband (who I'm ashamed to admit watches the videos for me and recaps them before I dare to watch) explained the drawing as a caged girl surrounded by yellow french lillies (the symbols that are on that old kind of patterned, velvety wallpapers that's on the photo). The corn field was my interpretation (also having watched stuff like Children of the Corn and Wickerman), and I'm pretty sure it was faulty. She is indeed trapped in a room with yellow wallpaper.


You and I are thinking the same. I asked Jon if there's any room with fleur de lis wallpaper, or something similar, at any rate. And also if any happens to be yellow.
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icerimp wrote:
TallulahBelle wrote:
icerimp wrote:
And in typical ARG fashion, it's all so obvious now.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Yellow_Wallpaper

This is what we were being pointed at.


Nice catch!

My husband (who I'm ashamed to admit watches the videos for me and recaps them before I dare to watch) explained the drawing as a caged girl surrounded by yellow french lillies (the symbols that are on that old kind of patterned, velvety wallpapers that's on the photo). The corn field was my interpretation (also having watched stuff like Children of the Corn and Wickerman), and I'm pretty sure it was faulty. She is indeed trapped in a room with yellow wallpaper.


You and I are thinking the same. I asked Jon if there's any room with fleur de lis wallpaper, or something similar, at any rate. And also if any happens to be yellow.


Jon said yesterday that the photo showed the wallpaper downstairs, and that he has a more modern wallpaper in his room. Perhaps it's a good idea to inquire a bit about the wallpaper downstairs, colour and room and such. I'll chuck him a tweet too.

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Jon_Blackwell ‏@EyesFall
@goo_goo_4_gaga @Reytrx ...That wallpaper's downstairs, my room has a wall with wallpaper, but it's diffirent- more modern. How the...




Edit: Just had a horrible realization, and I can't belive it didn't occur to me yesterday: Jane asked if we were ready for Charlottes final act, then she counted down to zero and Charlotte ran off into the woods. What if she's gone? Or worse?

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TallulahBelle wrote:

Edit: Just had a horrible realization, and I can't belive it didn't occur to me yesterday: Jane asked if we were ready for Charlottes final act, then she counted down to zero and Charlotte ran off into the woods. What if she's gone? Or worse?


I'm kind of half assuming she's going to end up at the circle that Jon was taking pictures of. The one that hurts your eyes to be around.
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 		Her little countdown still has me shaken up. And i really dont want her to get to one

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 		Zardock has left us a little database.
http://secretsofmordred.wetpaint.com/
digging now

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reytrx99 wrote:
Her little countdown still has me shaken up. And i really dont want her to get to one


I can see why. No reason why that would be directed at you.

reytrx99 wrote:
Zardock has left us a little database.
http://secretsofmordred.wetpaint.com/
digging now


Gotta ask.. is Zardok IG or OOG? I'm confused and a bit unsure of how to act around him.

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 		Im pretty sure hes IG as he knows (or lets on like he knows) WAAAY more than we do. AND his moniker is the name of a character in shadow over innsmouth, which is a heavy influence in the arg thus far. But there is always the chance hes just a detective level brain who figured it out faster than us.

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