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[Trailhead] Felicity's Legacy
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thebruce
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Also perhaps consider:

http://www.light-of-truth.com


ETA: Still don't know how we were supposed to have any idea about the Masons apart from Felicity's lucky number tips... if that's at least part of the solution Confused

..and..um.. looking for shapes in the grid where letters could be any number of spots apart, located essentially anywhere in the grid?
There needs to be a starting point/guide or it's just a near-impossible search. Heck, if there was even one place where we could find a 14/4 number pair, that would be a start. *whimper*
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thebruce
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lhall wrote:
Cross of St. Peter could easily be the 123>4 thing as well.

Hm, perhaps, if it's read as 2->13,4->down
else there's that extra 1->2 gesture
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Hello Friends! My it has been a rather hectic few weeks for Virgil and I. Lots of travel, lots of change. We're making such great time crisscrossing the US that you'd think someone was chasing us.

So...they're being chased?

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I know many of you are just itching for updates. First things first. The Beatrix app has been submitted to the apple store for approval! OMG we're super excited. Everyone will have to download it when its out, and I'll post a link I'm sure. I'm calling it "Bad Bunny." A launch next week? Maybe! Maybe not. We'll see. I can promise that I'll launch it as soon as I can.
Is there actually going to be an app? Shocked

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Now on to some ruminations. Some friends have contacted me with a problem.
That's us!
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It's a doozie too.
Err...yes.
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I have 99 problems.
...but a b!tch ain't one? Confused Seriously, what the heck does this sentence mean? No dogs are chasing her?? Is it a hint for Jay-Z? There's a cover of this song by Hugo-- is it a Victor Hugo reference? Is the hint here just the number 99? If so, why?

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In my opinion, and one shared by Virgil of course, the context of the problem might be as important as the solution.
Okay, so we're missing some context of the puzzle. Is it possible we need to be using more information from the blog posts themselves?

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It puts me in mind of a scientist working on a broad hypothesis who is stuck on an equation. He has solved many before, but the last one is giving him hell. What should he do? He might keep cranking away at that equation. But maybe he goes back and tries to put together the puzzle pieces he's already found.
I'm not sure how much of this is supposed to be a hintyhint and how much is just an analogy (sometimes, a cigar is just a cigar?). Is she just telling us to back off and go back through what we have, or is this meant to have some deeper meaning as well? If not, why is it necessary? Maybe she's saying that we should stop worrying about exactly how to get the coordinates and look for some bigger picture that we're missing?

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Figuring out the context, connecting the dots, analyzing the story; all can lead to the clue that is evading capture. Or not, of course.
So connect the dots (presumably to make the image of the mason symbol plain, as below). Also, analyze the story -- another nudge to read the blog posts themselves? Or is "the story" here The Aeneid or The Inferno, maybe? Does "evading capture" refer to "capturing the rabbit"?

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So, to friends with problems, I say step back, re-read your material, walk the path you've already walked a few times again.
So to walk the path we've already walked, does that mean to repeat methods we've already used? Like the book ciphers?

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If you look at all of the trees can you figure out what the forest looks like?
Is the answer: a masonic symbol??

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There may be more answers in plain sight that are there for the taking. But back to our scientist. He stepped back and made a breakthrough, had a coffee and was run over by a bus when he left his office, completely ruining my metaphor.
uhhh... Confused

And now for the neon signs I asked for, I guess:

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I love connect the dots. All you see are points, but the points make a picture. Symbols are also great fun. Two of my favorite people are Voltaire and Benjamin Franklin. These two were enlightenment paragons, freedom fighters and free thinkers. Incidentally, they were both part of the same society, one that still exists today and has a very famous symbol.
Yeah...lots of us probably thought "that kind of looks like a masonic symbol," but then ignored that instinct because it makes NO SENSE in context. Sigh. So I guess we know now that the Freemasons are involved (the repeated "free" is a nice touch in the clue)...maybe with that lens something in what we have will start to make sense?

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Sometimes, though, good symbols and good concepts can be co-opted. Sometimes groups might claim to strive for enlightenment, freedom and truth while they secretly strive to foster ignorance, bondage and lies.
This doesn't feel like a hint to me, this feels like more information on the big picture of what's going on.

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Reminds me of the cross of St. Peter.
Huh?

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Good and bad uses (but which is which?!) Time to feed Virgil and hit the road! Meow!


Hmmm.....

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It puts me in mind of a scientist working on a broad hypothesis who is stuck on an equation. He has solved many before, but the last one is giving him hell. What should he do? He might keep cranking away at that equation. But maybe he goes back and tries to put together the puzzle pieces he's already found.
I'm not sure how much of this is supposed to be a hintyhint and how much is just an analogy (sometimes, a cigar is just a cigar?). Is she just telling us to back off and go back through what we have, or is this meant to have some deeper meaning as well? If not, why is it necessary? Maybe she's saying that we should stop worrying about exactly how to get the coordinates and look for some bigger picture that we're missing?


That's what I think, too - stop trying to solve this and go see what we missed earlier, and maybe it will lead to something for this.

What else was unsolved - the two letters from the PDF, and that app screen/audio file?
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Just another fish for the kettle - if we are talking freemasonry now, here is a bit on light as the symbol of truth:
http://www.sacred-texts.com/mas/sof/sof24.htm

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jessie1326
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Two things:
1. The Wikipedia article for the Illuminati seems to have a lot of overlap with the things that have just come up. So maybe we're looking specifically at an Illuminati theme?

2. Is it possible that "Truth" and "Light" are the things we were supposed to find, rather than the coordinates for them, and that the solution isn't cleartext, it's the images themselves? I.E., maybe we're supposed to figure out (somehow) the words "truth" "light" and presumably something else, then find those words in the grid, then connect the dots and reveal the solution: the square and compass? I'm not suite sure how that would all work out in the end, but is it possible?

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"Some friends have contacted me with a problem. It's a doozie too."

So is it a doozie? Or is it simple?
aaaaaaaarrrrrrrrgggggghhhhhhh
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booba
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When I've got a bunch of free time I'd like to go back and count how many times "?" has been used in this thread.

Right?



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Firstly, the first confirmation of something that came to mind a while back was the similarity of the two shapes to the symbol of the Mason emblem.
But being so out in left field, I never considered that important... obviously, it has a place =P


Don't knock yourself out. I mean this looks like two bears
http://www.rmg.co.uk/upload/img/10c_20031217161917.jpg

Right?

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Hey everyone, this is my first time on here, but I started looking at the clues/problems on facebook, and can't put it down, so I figured I'd join the conversation here Smile

thebruce wrote:


ETA: Still don't know how we were supposed to have any idea about the Masons apart from Felicity's lucky number tips... if that's at least part of the solution Confused


I think that Voltaire might have been mentioned in one of the transcripts, but if that's the only connection to the Masons, then it's pretty thin...

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Megra wrote:
Hey everyone, this is my first time on here, but I started looking at the clues/problems on facebook, and can't put it down, so I figured I'd join the conversation here Smile

thebruce wrote:


ETA: Still don't know how we were supposed to have any idea about the Masons apart from Felicity's lucky number tips... if that's at least part of the solution Confused


I think that Voltaire might have been mentioned in one of the transcripts, but if that's the only connection to the Masons, then it's pretty thin...


There's a reference in the phone transcript to the Organization being some 'conspiracy theory-level shit', but again, this is all stuff that's only obvious in retrospect.

I'm no expert in Voltaire, but freemasonry isn't exactly the first thing that comes to mind...was he some kind of rebel within the freemasons who tried to change their direction?

Side note, via Wikipedia, something I can totally get behind:

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Voltaire was also known to have been an advocate for coffee, as he was purported to have drunk the beverage at least 30 times per day. It has been suggested that high amounts of caffeine acted as a mental stimulant to his creativity.


It says he was up to like 50 cups per day, and that's why Candide is so great.


Anyway, can someone list what's been tried on and what's remaining for both the audio file and the two documents?

Unless "puzzle pieces we've already found" is supposed to mean the next line, "Figuring out the context, connecting the dots, analyzing the story", which could be the whole mason thing...or Dante...or the Aenead...?...
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Oookay this almost makes me think we have too many pots on the stove at the moment.

The most recent post makes me think we should try mapping the assests or something on the grid(s) and try making a symbol, but the problem (which bruce pointed out) is that there are way too many similar letters and how that is supposed to be done. (Only if we're supposed to go up and down and just select each letter as we go.)

But that's just an idea and I don't think it'll spool out anything.

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Well.
If we get no more tips, I think we're just waiting for the app approval... and see what that brings us Confused
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Wish we knew exactly what symbol we were looking for. Anyone tried a cross or an upside "peter" cross yet?

Beyond that I looked back at the documents but nothing seemed to do anything for the grid.

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thebruce wrote:
Well.
If we get no more tips, I think we're just waiting for the app approval... and see what that brings us Confused


That's what I was figuring, too.
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Don't mean to bump, just wondering if this one has died yet? From the way it was playing out it "felt" like it would. It's not easy tying a product to a game and then getting people to try and buy that product, especially on your own. Props to the PM for at least that much.

I've been back on forth on the puzzles as of late and believe I am just as much as a loss as the rest of you guys seem to be. I am also reading the blog a bit "differently" as well now, seeing everything as a clue, trying to "read between the lines" as I feel nothing on that blog is meant to be literal.

Back to work before I get fired. Peace.
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