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How can i make a blog noticed?
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HunterEris
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TheFallenenvoy wrote:
Uniquename wrote:

I won't sugar coat it, anybody who's made a blog or vlog recently is late to the party.


Yes but when it's essentially a sequel (sort of)...the lack of following compared to the first segment is pretty annoying xD


While I can agree with that, as long as you are enjoying making it then it shouldn't really matter how many followers you have. I have a very small following and I don't think I've ever had above 20 people take a look at my work, but I enjoy writing the characters and story.
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nesferatuzero
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ChildOfAtom wrote:
What are you talking about?

You got two pages of solid advice.


it wasn't for myself, it's for others to read.

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Lucas Auraelius
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Well my vlog got its start through dumb luck and a very dedicated fan. After the fifth video was posted and it became obvious that Strange Aeons was a Slenderseries, this one subscriber took it upon himself to comment on more popular Slendervideos advertising Strange Aeons. The moral of the story is, to have a popular work, you need talent (at least in the eyes of other people), dedication, and luck. All three.
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 13, 2012 5:15 pm
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HunterEris wrote:
TheFallenenvoy wrote:
Uniquename wrote:

I won't sugar coat it, anybody who's made a blog or vlog recently is late to the party.


Yes but when it's essentially a sequel (sort of)...the lack of following compared to the first segment is pretty annoying xD


While I can agree with that, as long as you are enjoying making it then it shouldn't really matter how many followers you have. I have a very small following and I don't think I've ever had above 20 people take a look at my work, but I enjoy writing the characters and story.


Hear hear! Its not about being popular, its about having fun while doing it.

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nesferatuzero
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Fame always comes last and should be the last thing someone have to think about. If you don't have fun making whatever you are creating. Why created in the first place?

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nesferatuzero
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nesferatuzero wrote:
This is just a bump since, no-one seems to replied to it. It could be helpful for others.


I re-read what i posted. I meant to say for other people to read it. I'm very appreciated by the advise I was giving before. Other words, I meant to bump for other people can read and learn from it. Not for myself.

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Uniquename
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nesferatuzero wrote:
nesferatuzero wrote:
This is just a bump since, no-one seems to replied to it. It could be helpful for others.


I re-read what i posted. I meant to say for other people to read it. I'm very appreciated by the advise I was giving before. Other words, I meant to bump for other people can read and learn from it. Not for myself.


/golfclap

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Alaune
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If its a blog, sign up for google analytics and add the html code on your main page. You'll be surprised how many viewers you get through 1 thread without a massive ad campaign.

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Baronness
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On the topic of making your own series and getting it noticed:

Something I'm feeling weirdly concerned about: What if someone else, an outside person with lots of acting/filmmaking experience and connections, is really interested in your project/story for your Slenderseries and asks you what your plans are for it, how it will grow, etc.?

At first, I took this as kindness and genuine interest (and potential help from someone well-connected!), but now I'm afraid that it could turn into a situation in which the story I've worked so hard on might be stolen. I know that this probably sounds like I'm being paranoid and giving myself waayyyy too much credit (I know my story isn't genius, okay? I know), but I want to know what y'all think.

Thoughts?

EDIT: Should I have made this an entirely new topic in the first place? Sorry! :[

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OhWhatProvidence
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You should have a contract, or some form of creative commons agreement so that you retain the rights, if you want to get serious about this. However, ideas are not as copyright-proof as they seem. Names, logos? Yes. Ideas, no.

Legally, if you wanted you could entirely rewrite the Harry Potter series in your own words and with name changes and could get away with the plot being the same... In a technical sense, anyway. This is one of the main things to the SM mythos though, that we share ideas from each other and invent our own ideas that might be used by others. However, if said creative person is truly interested in your project, look at it two ways.
Producers or other helpers in a story/film/other media want to help make a marketable story, often with money in mind, but just as often simply for a good story. The main way to tell this is: are they listening to your ideas, or just giving their own? Be objective about this, and be willing to accept certain changes. "Let me be able to take criticism and separate the good advice from the bitter herbs." is a quote I live by in this situation. Have them explain why this needs to be changed, and if there is solid logic behind why it should be changed (your characters have no depth and need a more contestant personality vs. we need to make this guy a badass because it would be neat)

(sorry, another 3AM post, if anything is undecipherable we can talk more in the MH off-topic thread, I guess. Or set up a thread in the PM Help forum.)
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OhWhatProvidence wrote:
You should have a contract, or some form of creative commons agreement so that you retain the rights, if you want to get serious about this. However, ideas are not as copyright-proof as they seem. Names, logos? Yes. Ideas, no.

Legally, if you wanted you could entirely rewrite the Harry Potter series in your own words and with name changes and could get away with the plot being the same... In a technical sense, anyway. This is one of the main things to the SM mythos though, that we share ideas from each other and invent our own ideas that might be used by others. However, if said creative person is truly interested in your project, look at it two ways.
Producers or other helpers in a story/film/other media want to help make a marketable story, often with money in mind, but just as often simply for a good story. The main way to tell this is: are they listening to your ideas, or just giving their own? Be objective about this, and be willing to accept certain changes. "Let me be able to take criticism and separate the good advice from the bitter herbs." is a quote I live by in this situation. Have them explain why this needs to be changed, and if there is solid logic behind why it should be changed (your characters have no depth and need a more contestant personality vs. we need to make this guy a badass because it would be neat)

(sorry, another 3AM post, if anything is undecipherable we can talk more in the MH off-topic thread, I guess. Or set up a thread in the PM Help forum.)


Thanks for responding; I'm completely worried about this, now.

The problem is that we're communicating over email, so it's very difficult to tell whether the person is listening to my ideas or not. I'm thinking I'll just give a very vague description of the story and not give away anything big. I don't want this person to be offended when I don't share much, though. Oh, the fine line...

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OhWhatProvidence
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An old writing teacher at a panel said something that has stuck to me to this day: "Write something, and publish it. Don't worry about someone stealing it. Someone will always steal something from what you wrote, be it a name or a plot point... If you don't want a story to be stolen then don't publish it. Write it, print it out, and then hide it under your bed for no one to see. The trick is to use your head and know that there is nothing new under the sun. Don't ever be so arrogant as to believe that 1. You haven't stolen from someone else, unintentionally or not. 2. Your story has any elements even worth stealing in the first place."

And, something an art teacher said, on the other side of things: "I had someone break into my art room the other day and steal some pieces off my wall. And you know what i did? i took it as a compliment. someone thought my art was good enough to go to the trouble to steal. My art is worthy of being stolen, and I see that as a compliment. I don't care what he does with it because I know that I created it, and the work itself will be getting the compliments, not the artist."


Okay, now let's go to another thread... really don't want to get offtopic. If you wanna keep talking then PM or make a post on the PM Help thread Wink
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Good advice :] Thank you.

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Fotzepolitic
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OhWhatProvidence wrote:
An old writing teacher at a panel said something that has stuck to me to this day: "Write something, and publish it. Don't worry about someone stealing it. Someone will always steal something from what you wrote, be it a name or a plot point... If you don't want a story to be stolen then don't publish it. Write it, print it out, and then hide it under your bed for no one to see. The trick is to use your head and know that there is nothing new under the sun. Don't ever be so arrogant as to believe that 1. You haven't stolen from someone else, unintentionally or not. 2. Your story has any elements even worth stealing in the first place."


This, pretty much.

I guess with Slendervlogs you're more aware of it because, you know, we're all stealing the Slender Man.
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At this point everything's been done before - it's what you DO with the concept and where you take it to that matters.

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