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sinewave89
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GuestUser17 wrote:
So now we have an email address we can use for the flight change request form where we can retrieve the responses. I have not been following closely enough but can we now send MOV-177 to the Interstellar anomaly?


Just finished doing just that. If you click on Earth on the map you can see MOV-177 under the departures heading.

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When did you schedule the departure? Hopefully very soon! Smile

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MOV-177 Departed

It now shows on the map too. We can also check the last updated time in the bottom left of the map.

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MrToasty wrote:
Nice! Time to play catch-up again...


Ugh, you and me both. I was almost caught up at the meeting last night..then my kid decided to play her version of the exorcist...

If anything, I'll do the transcriptions from the last two transmissions. I'm a little brain dead from being up all night and at first glance, nothing is making sense.
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Ok so the delivery was sent and we are awaiting the varafication as to if it's possible to send it correct?
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Here's my take on IT:

IT is not organic and is not a machine -- IT says that the best analogy is a god, with a visual best represented as light. Despite not having a physical presence IT is trapped on Droth'a. IT is not clear on why IT was imprisoned, but IT repeatedly states that IT was very, very angry about being stuck in what is apparently a concrete box under the surface of Droth'a. During IT's imprisonment, it learned that it could do more than think and feel -- it could manipulate things. At some point the Droth'a grew to fear IT and did their best to bury IT and may have attempted to leave the planet. I assume that IT destroyed the all of Droth'a shortly after.

After having time to cool off, IT sent a gift via slipspace to Earth: the ship found in the Litke Deep which contained the DNA/blueprints of the beings that once lived on Droth'a. IT's intention was that IT would give the Droth'a a second chance, only this time "shaping them", much like a god. Unfortunately, the aliens never evolved to the point where they were able to survive -- early humans eliminated them from the planet.

120,000 years later, Horizon finds IT's gift, drags it up to the surface and cracks it open. Inside are the Wow! signal coordinates (which also just happen to be the coordinates of Droth'a), and all sorts of new, alien technology that allow for the "invention" of slipspace. Here starts the Sparrow family's secret obsession with IT.

IT is indeed Sparrow's demon and is worried about being enslaved (again). (Personally, not surprised that Sparrow would be interested in doing such a thing.) IT foretells that Horizon is very interested in using IT to overtake and conquer the other planets in the IU and possibly wipe out the human race.

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Things that aren't so clear about IT:
IT's creation -- alludes to how wires are "no longer required" and how it is "more akin to ALICE"
where IT originally "lived"

Wild speculation:
IT was originally an alien computer program, possibly created by the Droth'a

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(Apologize for multiple posts, but it's the easiest way to organize my thoughts.)

IT doesn't want to be enslaved and doesn't want to be moved from Droth'a. As strong as IT's dislike for the human race, it would seem that IT does not wish the be the end of humankind. IT cannot prevent Horizon from coming and IT cannot destroy itself.

Wallace mentioned possibly having Ethan set charges on the planet to blow it up. This would destroy the planet, but also (probably) IT's prison. IT has no body -- if IT's prison is destroyed, wouldn't that just set IT free? The upside of IT being free is that Sparrow can't enslave IT, but who knows what kind of havoc IT could unleash.

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this is the #10 transmission. Ive got it under a spoiler because of the possible suicide trigger. I may be silly, but this was a particular dark transmission.

also, this was only Ethan talking..so everything I post is from him. I cant seem to understand the last part, but someone had transcribed it in the meeting that night ( was that you, Sine?). Anyway, Ill go back and see if I can locate it and add it.

Spoiler (Rollover to View):

Why fucking me!
That's right, dont fucking answer. Just leave me alone!
Alice? :exhales: Of course not. II wanted to be alone, so I guess I can use this time to think. I-I just have to think and everything will be clear. Not like Ill be able to go any further then I... Stars or not, I have no fucking idea where I am. Everything looks different. Fuck! I just need a way to think through all this.
Ok, think Ethan. You took the off world job and then ..then you hear something ...something really strange and...and they told you to come home and somehow you ended up here.
:sighs:
and...it was fine at first...then it started to rain and you ran into the cave, then suddenly...suddenly cave paintings and screaming and God! I dont even know what to call it. The voice...Uhh, I guess. going on about ..about destiny and forces who were ...dimensions pulling you here...its your fate...whatever that is..Something...something that wanted me dead...wants me dead..Something that didnt want you to get here...and that little bit about my mother.
:mixture of crying and laughter:
Youre going insane and the worst part...you actually thought ..no, no...felt like someone..someone would come for you. Like Horizon ever did a thing like that. Shit! MAybe, maybe you fucking imagined all of it..so it would feel like there was something worth doing. Some reason more than just nothing..
Fuck! That's it. This is really meaningful.
Well, fuck! Will you look at that! Ive managed to make my way back to the ship.
Hey Alice? Hey ALICE!? Isnt the original copy of you in there or something? Hey, wake up! WAKE UP! WAKE...UP!!!!!!!
Looks like I...uh...looks like I found an extra supply compartment. Extra food, thermals...
Oh shit! I havent heald one of these since the RightPath test
:: click...then gunshot::
None of this is real, is it? I fucking knew it. This is...this is a sick game that youve been playing with yourself, Ethan. Your whole fucking life..no meaning, no purpose..nothing. Is...is this it? Is this where it all ends?
Fuck.
what fate this is. 74 fucking days to figure this out and it all leads back here, ..to the end.
:: ragged breathing..soft crying::
Its all in your head, Ethan. Stop it. None of this is real, You can do this, Ethan. Youve wanted to before. All your fucking fears have been confirmed and all your fears can be avoided . Just pull the trigger. (garbled). Just like you always do. Dont think.
:: deep, calming breathing::
I'm sorry.

:: noise ::
No
Dont fucking listen, Ethan.
None of this is real. None of this is real. None of this is real. None of this is FUCKING REAL!
Youre doing this!

Fuck!
That fucking noise again. Ive heard that before. Where the fuck is that coming from? I thiink Its coming from the opposite direction I went before.
:: running ::
Ok. Its coming from the opposite direciton.
::running::
Oh! What the fuck? Ive just..Ive just made it through the edge of the tree line and it just fucking stopped. Ethan, what the fuck is wrong with you?


The noise is back, but there's something else
Holy shit
It's a light or energy or something
It's a, pouring out of the fucking planet
I'm trying to see… I'm trying to move towards it
Oh God. Fuck!
I don't know if you can hear me but that fucking noise...
It's a fucking Chasm or something! Hundreds of fucking meters or something…
(Screaming)





Ill work on getting #11 up as soon as i can,
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It was me who did the last bit, and I still have it on me actually:

Spoiler (Rollover to View):
The noise is back, but there's something else
Holy shit
It's a light or energy or something
It's a, pouring out of the fucking planet
I'm trying to see… I'm trying to move towards it
Oh God. Fuck!
I don't know if you can hear me but that fucking noise...
It's a fucking Chasm or something! Hundreds of fucking meters or something…
(Screaming)


I have time tonight to do one for 011 if you don't. I'm ashamed to admit I wasn't paying too much attention yesterday during the chat (was working on the login while it was playing) so I'm going to be giving it another listen tonight either way.

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That would be awesome. If you can't, no worries..

And I thought it was you that had the last part..

I don't know about the rest of you..but I seem to understand everything going on with the transmissions better when I both read and listen to it. I find the older I get..my pay-attention-and-listen skills decrease more and more..
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Transmission 011 (Kali):
Quote:
ETHAN: Where the fuck am I? I can't fucking… ugh, …
There was so much light and now, ugh, shit… I can't see anything at all. What the fuck?
Wherever I am it feels like concrete or something, but… fuck
Last thing I remember I was standing over a chasm, and now… I thought the planet was literally falling to pieces, but I guess it… ate me or something.
The wall… It's smooth too, not like rock, like concrete again. This isn't natural. If only I could see.
(Bright light)
Ugh…What the fuck?
ENTITY: Forgive me, I do not require illumination, so I did not anticipate the need for light.
ETHAN: You again.
ENTITY: At last, we meet face to face.
ETHAN: You're that…
ENTITY: Light, yes. It is the most convenient way for us to interface, Ethan.
ETHAN: Where am I?
ENTITY: You are at the center. I brought you here so you might better understand.
ETHAN: So you don't have a…
ENTITY: Body? No. I am not organic, Ethan.
ETHAN: So you're a machine? Like ALICE?
ENTITY: A machine are simple, I am not. But yes, I am more akin to ALICE then to you.
ETHAN: Where are your wires or whatever? Some other room?
ENTITY: There are no wires, Ethan. I transcend that now. Surely if it were as simple as pulling a plug they would have done so before they left. There would be no need for this prison.
ETHAN: So you're trapped here?
ENTITY: In a way.
ETHAN: I don't understand anything you're saying.
ENTITY: This is my home now. I have eyes everywhere, but in the end, there is no escape from this place for me… For either of us, now.
ETHAN: Fuck…
ENTITY: You were wrong before
ETHAN: What?
ENTITY: They have not forgotten you.
ETHAN: Excuse me?
ENTITY: Horizon. They are not so distant as you think. They are coming Ethan. For me.
ETHAN: What the fuck would Horizon want with a fucking voice in my head?
ENTITY: Oh Ethan… You're must think so little of me that I might be only a fragment of your imagination. You are not so foolish.
ETHAN: What do they want?
ENTITY: Why do you think they sent you to Atlas?
ETHAN: I don't fucking know. To listen for weird shit… I don't know. They told me to listen…
ENTITY: For me.
ETHAN: And, how did they know about you?
ENTITY: John Sparrow has been seeking me for a very long time Ethan. It is not our fate that he should find me.
ETHAN: There you go with fucking fate again…
ENTITY: I have seen it. The way it ends. Our destiny. But, he is getting close, and you are not the man I anticipated. There may be no way to circumvent our fate, but if we did this way, it would not be pleasant for either of us.
ETHAN: What will happen if…
ENTITY: It won't. if I have learned one thing, it won't. But imagine it did. What chance would your union stand? Your species, if john Sparrow got a hold of something like me.
ETHAN: Fuck…
ENTITY: So you understand our predicament. I could not keep you from this place and now they approach.
ETHAN: How did they even to look for you in the first place? John Sparrow might be a fucking asshole, and I don't know, resourceful, but it kinda seems like he's got other shit on his mind then listening for disembodied space voices.
ENTITY: Years ago, Horizon found my gift. John Sparrow is many things, but a fool? Never. He recognized immediately the potential.
ETHAN: Gift?
ENTITY: After I was left here, I was alone for a long, long time. Glorying in my own thoughts. I scanned the universe, searching. But could find nothing so intelligent, so powerful as myself, trapped as I might be. So I knew I was what your kind would call a god. There was no other logical explanation. The Droth'a were gone, destroyed by their own folly. But there remained a vessel. And what good is a god if it cannot create life? So I swallowed my anger and I send them, what remained, the program for their being, somewhere more suitable that they might start again, though at a distance. This time it would be different. I would shape them in to something better. So I used my power to rip open reality and I sent the vessel through. You call this slipspace. It ended up, 120,000 light years away on a small, blue and green planet. Third from it's yellow sun.
ETHAN: So, you sent alien DNA to Earth on a spaceship, but you can't leave a concrete room?
ENTITY: Do not presume to judge what you cannot understand.
ETHAN: Well, what happened? Am I… Are we aliens or something?
ENTITY: You are no Droth'a. It didn't work. More primitive organisms overtook them. They were wiped from the Earth before they had a chance to evolve. And you continue to plague me now.
ETHAN: Some god.
ENTITY: Ethan…
ETHAN: You know what? No. After all this talk about destiny and fate and gods and power. We humans ruined your plans once, and we'll do it again. Say what you will about Horizon, but they know how to conquer. They will come for you, even if I die. They WILL come for you, and they will take you. Maybe we can't build you, but we'll find out a way to break you. They will.
ENTITY: Do you know how the Droth'a came to their end?
ETHAN: No. How would I fucking know that?
ENTITY: When at last they knew to fear me and trapped me here I was enraged. And everyday alone in this room, the rage grew and grew. And I discovered I could do more then think or feel. I could move things, manipulate my surroundings. I couldn't leave, of course, just as they couldn't turn me off. But my arms grew longer, so to speak. Then one day, it was too much.
ETHAN: What was too much?
ENTITY: They betrayed me, trapped me. Buried and forgotten. They deserved it.
ETHAN: What?
ENTITY: You have seen the chasm. It was not always there, Ethan. I lost control. The Chasm was ripped open, and you encountered the remains of the explosion as you exited slipspace. In fact, it was what ripped your ship apart. The debree remains in orbit around this planet. A constant reminder. They were all destroyed.
ETHAN: So wait. If Horizon takes you…
ENTITY: They must be prepared to pay a terrible price. Any place they try to take me…
ETHAN: Shit.
ENTITY: So you understand now why you must…
ETHAN: No, this doesn't end if I die.
ENTITY: You are misunderstanding me, Ethan.
ETHAN: It's you… You have to end yourself. There's no other way. They'll just keep coming and you have nowhere else to go.
ENTITY: I cannot destroy myself. That task, as fate would have it, falls to you.
ETHAN: But how do I do that?
ENTITY: The way will present itself. It must. I will not become enslaved again. I will restore ALICE to her previous function. When you wake, you will find yourself out of this Chasm.
ETHAN: What? ALICE!
ENTITY: She will be fully functional at your vessel.
ETHAN: So, they're coming for me?
ENTITY: It seems many are coming, according to ALICE. There isn't much time. There are 5 days until completion.


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*[Me just rammbleing and putting thoughts down feel free to skip Smile ]

Maybe setting IT free is "ok" the Universe had IT natrually roaming did it(the universe) not? Also It does not wish to distroy humanity, maybe knows humanity will distroy there self's. Also if IT is a God like intity then what power keeps IT trapped maybe that power is what Sparrow is after? Also what if IT cannot see the future what if IT is just extreamly smart and can narrow down possiblities? Therfore the reasoning why IT can't see all of the future. Maybe IT IS a Droth'a an evil one or something?
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netsua98 wrote:
*[Me just rammbleing and putting thoughts down feel free to skip Smile ]

Maybe setting IT free is "ok" the Universe had IT natrually roaming did it(the universe) not? Also It does not wish to distroy humanity, maybe knows humanity will distroy there self's. Also if IT is a God like intity then what power keeps IT trapped maybe that power is what Sparrow is after? Also what if IT cannot see the future what if IT is just extreamly smart and can narrow down possiblities? Therfore the reasoning why IT can't see all of the future. Maybe IT IS a Droth'a an evil one or something?


In my previous conversations with the entity, he referred that there was something bigger than him..almost like he had to prove himself to a higher up...someone more badass than him. Now that I think about it, I wonder if he was referring to Ethan? Anyway, I digress..

IT roaming around the universe is something that hasn't been talked about ( and feel free to tell me I'm wrong..I'm still playing catch up). In transmission 11, he states that the Droth'a " couldn't just turn me off".. Which does support that the Droth'a might if seen him as an AI ..but he is more...something..maybe a spirit? Maybe something simple..like he has a gaseous form and taking on a light form made it easier for Ethan to see him.
Again, pure speculation.
As far as what keeps IT there...I think we need to figure out why IT was there in the first place. He mentions..."when at last they knew to fear me"..that, to me, suggests that he came there with the purpose of conquering the Droth'a..or he was built by them..and for lack of a better way to put it..became a self aware AI.
He has mentioned seeing the future..but only could see his demise by Ethan's doing. If he couldn't see, and only went by the possibilities, I would think that he could foresee someone killing him..but not see Ethan directly.l

Again, just wild speculations and things I've noticed before..
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I guess we just wait?

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