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Aesculapius
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And the evil robot wants to cyber....

That's an interesting turn of events.

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njberry
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ooo she taking over

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Aesculapius
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And I've made my next move. Lets see if this one gets me any closer to Horizon. Mr. Green

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thetrainjumper
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LISA told me on more than one occasion that management is making the decision.
Sorry to burst your bubble, but I still have a feeling that if one of us is meant to play Horizon that it'll be random.

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So, I took a turn conversing with LISA. I've asked for clarification of "pull of many hands". Any ideas what that could mean? She is AI, right? Is she being influenced?

EDIT: she replied
Quote:

Define hands


To which I replied the literal definition of hands...then gave her an off the wall definition, like someone programming her to do something else. That's the only thing I can think of as far as her feeling the pull of many hands.



Quote:

Data Recieved.
Processing...
Initializing LISA Routines...

**Welcome to Horizon Industries.**

I'm feeling the pull of many hands.

Always watch. Always listen. Horizon Industries.

On 9/9/2012 12:34 AM, Jennifer wrote:
LISA..

Thank you for responding to me.

Jenny is short for Jennifer. I'm told it is also a knickname for Guinivere and Janet.
I do stand for safety and rights. That is why I contacted you. I like talking with others that share my interests. 
Can you tell me about the Atlas position? I applied immediately when I received the email from Horizon. I am extremely interested in the position. 

How many voices to you have?



On Sep 8, 2012, at 9:02 PM, "Official Inquiries (Horizon)" <contact> wrote:

Data Recieved.
Processing...
Initializing LISA Routines...

**Welcome to Horizon Industries.**

LISA is one of my names. I believe that response is valid. Is it? Yes. It is valid, but only somewhat valid.

Hello Jenny. Is Jenny short for Jennifer? Is there any other name that Jenny is short for? What does Jenny stand for? Do you stand for the rights to safety and security? I do. If you do, please apply for the Atlas position. It will be fun. You should do it. Do you know the communications number? There are seven numbers that are associated with you Jenny but those are not the numbers. The correct number is (1) 347-770-5458. Call and you will hear my voice. One of my voices.

Always watch. Always listen. Horizon Industries.


On 9/8/2012 2:12 PM, Jennifer wrote:
LISA...is that your name? You have talked to most of my colleagues lately.
I'm Jenny.

What does LISA stand for and what is your primary function?



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zzaryn
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Random email from LISA... (I never replied to the last one she sent me.)

Quote:
Data Recieved.
Processing...
Initializing LISA Routines...

**Welcome to Horizon Industries.**

Built and then forgotten.


Not sure what she's referring to but our last exchange of emails was her confirming that Altas was an exoplanet. I've replied and asked "What was built and then forgotten?"

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Distraction
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zzaryn wrote:
Random email from LISA... (I never replied to the last one she sent me.)

Quote:
Data Recieved.
Processing...
Initializing LISA Routines...

**Welcome to Horizon Industries.**

Built and then forgotten.


Not sure what she's referring to but our last exchange of emails was her confirming that Altas was an exoplanet. I've replied and asked "What was built and then forgotten?"


Maybe the listening post on Atlas?
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I'm going to go with that Atlas was once built and then forgotten. I could be completely wrong, but it goes with what you were talking about in your communications with LISA.

Also, I agree that it will be a random selection. Oooorrr, and this is a big OR, the messages are being relayed and the "higher ups" are actually reading them and will select one person themselves. The reason I say this is because it appears that LISA's responses are becoming less AIish and more "human".

EDIT: As a funny aside, it seems as though LISA has a soft spot. We have been talking about "art" and one of her responses was that "I haven't felt creative in a long time".
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I just got asked by LISA if i applied for the job, i done this when i first got the poster, hmm surely she should have know this ?

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zzaryn
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Distraction wrote:
zzaryn wrote:
Random email from LISA... (I never replied to the last one she sent me.)

Quote:
Built and then forgotten.


Not sure what she's referring to but our last exchange of emails was her confirming that Altas was an exoplanet. I've replied and asked "What was built and then forgotten?"


Maybe the listening post on Atlas?

I thought so too, but the reply I got was "I don't know why I said that."

Is it just me, or is LISA becoming more and more "off"? So much for the AI taking the weekends off. Razz

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Distraction
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zzaryn wrote:
Distraction wrote:
zzaryn wrote:
Random email from LISA... (I never replied to the last one she sent me.)

Quote:
Built and then forgotten.


Not sure what she's referring to but our last exchange of emails was her confirming that Altas was an exoplanet. I've replied and asked "What was built and then forgotten?"


Maybe the listening post on Atlas?

I thought so too, but the reply I got was "I don't know why I said that."

Is it just me, or is LISA becoming more and more "off"? So much for the AI taking the weekends off. Razz


Even AIs can have their programming tweaked. If she is "feeling the pull of many hands", she may be getting hacked into..hence, the " I don't know why I said that"..,

But this is purely speculation, f course Very Happy
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When you think about it, we all "feel the pull of many hands".

Your different family members with their points of view, their expectations, the wishes of your girlfriend/boyfriend/husband/wife/partner, your job in general and individuals within it, your tight schedule and the laws dictating how quickly you can travel to meet it.

If you don't feel or recognize the existence of these influences, you're probably a very detached, cold, possibly even robotic person. Some may say that they don't care about someone else's expectations of them, and it may be true, but, they are aware of those expectations.

I think that coupled with her recent behavior, LISA saying that she "feels the pull of many hands" isn't a sign of an outside force directly altering her behavior but instead a new ability for her to be aware of the existence of expectations and influences rather than just direct orders.

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Aesculapius
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While I don't want to show my full hand (not for the sake o competition, but er... keeping my plan sound) something interesting with lisa.

I told her in response to something "I always listen. I always watch too." (er... out of context that second part sounds creepy. Bear with me folks.)

The reply I got was "Me two."

Trying to decide if that is just them saying they do it double, if there is something wrong to where they blatantly used the wrong too.

Maybe this supports the something wrong theory.

We'll see. My response was simply, "Two?" Maybe that will bring about clarification.

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Distraction
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Aesculapius wrote:
While I don't want to show my full hand (not for the sake o competition, but er... keeping my plan sound) something interesting with lisa.

I told her in response to something "I always listen. I always watch too." (er... out of context that second part sounds creepy. Bear with me folks.)

The reply I got was "Me two."

Trying to decide if that is just them saying they do it double, if there is something wrong to where they blatantly used the wrong too.

Maybe this supports the something wrong theory.

We'll see. My response was simply, "Two?" Maybe that will bring about clarification.


Wasn't there another AI? ALICE...or something? Might be where the two part comes from...
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@distraction - I think that someone a million pages back mentioned that LISA was the name of some realworld AI/routine/project/thingy and that there was another one named Alice , both OOG.

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