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Figuring out the Multiple "ToTheArk's"

[BranRainey]

Straightforward footage with no/few puzzles
Exit
Addition
Return
Version
Admission
Warning
Entry ######
Fragments
enttry #37
Forecast
Indicator
Inquiry

Videos using stock footage and music to send a message
Signal
Messages
Attention

Chaotic, puzzle-heavy videos
Regards
Operator
Deluge
Impurity
Program
Advocate
Broadcast
Sidetone
Intermission

Maybe we need another category for animations/drawings (Intermission, Inquiry, Fragments, etc).

[12th]

I'd think I'd say that Inquiry definitely had puzzles. Spectrograph, zeros image, and the question of what part of the brain was being pointed at.

Think we also need a breakdown on "live footage" (Return, Exit, end of intermission, possibly bits of Inquiry) - footage TTA or his agent shot for inclusion in the response. Also need to acknowledge entries with original MH footage, or production footage.

[MDS1138]

[j1001]

[tarantulatook]

One big thing that I've noticed is the use of the pixel-y font (looks like this: http://www.ms-studio.com/FontSales/images/rastergot12conddisplay.gif) versus the others, like in "Messages" for example (looks like Helvetica to me, but I'm no font snob).

It seemed significant to me. I noticed this a while ago, and now this makes a lot more sense after the past few vids.

[Randoman96]

^But if you noticed, it was not used in Inquiry. It was, however, used for three straight entries, then not used, which gives credit to Bobthecrusher's "three videos, then a different style" theory.

[DHawk314]

Advocate has a picture of Brian at the same time that Jay gets tipped to where Brian's house is. Masky was in Brian's house, as seen from the little blanket-pillow thing with Tim's water bottle in it. Then Addition is in Brian's house during Entry #16. Signal has totheark tell Jay to come back to Brian's house and find him. Masky is there, he tackles Jay. Return is of Jay right after Jay disappears from his room. Masky was also in his room during the entry, he disappears at the same time as Jay. Attention and Admission both try to lure Jay to Brian's house again, Admission is actually filmed in Brian's house. When Jay goes there, Masky is there again. And of course Warning and Entry ###### are largely Masky filming himself. Then right after Entry #35 when it's revealed Masky is Tim, totheark's video Broadcast says "Do you know me? I will always know you."

Anyway I think all the totheark videos I just mentioned have evidence for them having been uploaded by Tim, although Broadcast is the weakest of them. I note that besides Version, I listed all the season 1 totheark video taking place after the Interview with Tim. Before that we have Operator with the missing audio, Impurity which implies there's more footage after Entry #11, and Exit which films Jay while film scouting with Alex. The way I figure it someone connected to Alex's movie uploaded these, so if not Tim, then Brian, Sarah, or Seth. Since it seems most of these multiple totheark theories lead to totheark being Tim and Hoody, I think who uploaded those depends on who Hoody is. If Hoody is Brian, Sarah or Seth, I think s/he could've uploaded those. If not, I think Tim was totheark for all of season 1. The only reason I'd doubt that is that Tim seemed normal during his interview, but I think it's entirely possible

Then we have Fragments, Sidetone and enttry ######. They include a picture of Alex, Alex's phone number, and Alex's home movies. I have my doubts about Tim having any of these, although he may have had Alex's phone number since he worked on a movie with him. Among people who I think are more likely to have it are Amy, since they live together, and Jessica who definitely had it since Alex called her. Considering Alex's home movies and pictures, Amy might have these seeing as she was looking through his stuff enough to find his old camera. Jessica could have these too though if they were around the house.

And then there's Forecast and Intermission, which I think Hoody uploaded for previously established reasons. This leaves Indicator, Memories, and Inquiry. Indicator and Memories use the same font as Forecast and Intermission, but that might not mean much. Then we have Inquiry which is very non-season 1 style. It's more direct and mind-fucking, which I think is kinda like Indicator to be honest. I'm not nearly as confident about this one though. Anyway this is all just some speculation in my head.

[ScottudoDan]

I think when the video's that totheark reply's to were made should also be taken into account when categorizing. Just a thought.

[Camero]

Even before reading the twitter post, seeing the latest one made me pretty sure that this video was made by a different guy.

Now, what I want to ask is this: is it more likely that totheark is an "organization"(a crazy one, but still) or has the ownership of the account simply shifted over time?

What I'm saying is, I'm not entirely sure we should be categorizing videos without regard to chronology, and instead be looking for signs of a transition.

For example, I'd say that the video with the baby in it(forget the name) is decidedly different from the ones that preceded it.

[blahblah]

Hm... maybe looking at the description of the videos will also help.

[StarlitVixen]

I'm bored, so I'm going to compile a quick list for everyone here to use and pick at for details of the videos, dates, length, what it was a response to, and the video description.
I'm not going to say what happened in each video and leave that up for everyone else.

"Regards"
Uploaded: July 22nd, 2009
Description: ////////
Length: 0:10
Response to: Entry #9

"Operator"
Uploaded: July 31st, 2009
Description: \\\yes\\\
Length: 0:22
Response to: Entry #10

"Deluge"
Uploaded: August 11, 2009
Description: ///
Length: 0:16
Response to: Entry #11

"Impurity"
Uploaded: September 1st, 2009
Description: 000000000
Length: 0:34
Response to: Entry #12

"Exit"
Uploaded: September 15th, 2009
Description: remember me
Length: 1:07
Response to: Entry #13

"Program"
Uploaded: September 26th, 2009
Description: 000
Length: 0:18
Response to: Entry #14

"Advocate"
Uploaded: October 12th, 2009
Description: 00110111
Length: 0:22
Response to: Entry #15 - Interview with Tim

"Addition"
Uploaded: October 21st, 2009
Description: //eyes\\
Length: 0:16
Response to: Entry #16

"Signal"
Uploaded: November 4th, 2009
Description: again
Length: 0:31
Response to: Entry #17

"Messages"
Uploaded: November 21st, 2009
Description: .
Length: 0:26
Response to: Entry #18

"Return"
Uploaded: December 2nd, 2009
Description: 91
Length: 0:11
Response to: Entry #19

"Version"
Uploaded: December 16th, 2009
Description: s
Length: 0:10
Response to: Entry #20

"Attention"
Uploaded: January 10th, 2010
Description: .
Length: 0:14
Response to: Entry #22

"Admission"
Uploaded: January 15th, 2010
Description: +
Length: 0:43
Response to: n/a

"Warning"
Uploaded: February 3rd, 2010
Description: failure nigh
Length: 0:43
Response to: n/a

"Fragments"
Uploaded: February 10th, 2011
Description: hello again
Length: 0:18
Response to: n/a

"Broadcast"
Uploaded: February 26th, 2011
Description: are you drowning
Length: 0:14
Response to: n/a

"Sidetone"
Uploaded: March 15th, 2011
Description: # 000-0000
Length: 0:18
Response to: n/a

"Forecast"
Uploaded: April 21st, 2011
Description: c2VlIHlvdSBzYXcgeW91
Length: 0:41
Response to: n/a

"Intermission"
Uploaded: May 16th, 2011
Description: YmV oaW5kIHRo ZSBjd XJ0YWlu
Length: 0:32
Response to: n/a

"Indicator"
Uploaded: June 2nd, 2011
Description: blind
Length: 0:26
Response to: n/a

"Memories"
Uploaded: June 20th, 2011
Description: NT Qz MjE =
Length: 0:23
Response to: n/a

"Inquiry"
Uploaded: July 7th, 2011
Description: maɪnəs sɛntrɔɪd
Length: 1:01
Response to: n/a

Just like to note: n/a means it was not posted as a video response to one of Marble Hornet's videos. Does not mean that it isn't "responding" to the videos Jay uploads.
I noticed some patterns in the descriptions and video lengths... See what you all can make of this.

[That Crazy Viking]

To put all the description together in chronological order:
//////// \\\yes\\\ /// 000000000 remember me 000 00110111 //eyes\\ again . 91 s . + failure nigh hello again are you drowning # 000-0000 c2VlIHlvdSBzYXcgeW91 YmV oaW5kIHRo ZSBjd XJ0YWlu blind NT Qz MjE = maɪnəs sɛntrɔɪd

Makes no sense. Let's try the groupings suggested earlier.

Straightforward with no/few puzzles
remember me //eyes\\91 s + failure nigh hello again memories c2VlIHlvdSBzYXcgeW91 blind maɪnəs sɛntrɔɪd

Videos using stock footage and music to send a message
. 91 .

Chaotic, puzzle-heavy videos
//////// \\\yes\\\ /// 000000000 000 00110111 are you drowning # 000-0000 YmV oaW5kIHRo ZSBjd XJ0YWlu

EDIT: Thanks to StarlitVixen and Bran Rainey for grouping/collecting info/doing stuff I don't want to.

[That Crazy Viking]

Ok, double post so I can put in my 20 dollars. I sort of support this theory. I form my own version of this when 42 came out. Mine goes like this:

The mask is the symbol of membership. TiMasky may of been first. The membership includes AT LEAST TiMasky, Skully, and Blasky. Around the events of Entry ###### there was some sort of schism, where TiMasky lost control while Blasky took control. I think that it was because Skully and Blasky were displeased by his actions. But I don't know whether totheark is helping or harming Jay, especially after the Inquiry. That spectograph..*shudders*. So at the moment, Blasky and Skully (possibly) are TTA.

Anyway, that's my theory.

[Susil]

I put a theory in the 'who is TTA' thread that I'll sumarise here...

Basically, the different members of the group "sign" their videos. What got me onto this was the end of Warning, where the final message reads "Regardss" - or, perhaps, "Regards, S" - as in, from "S". This figure also could be a sigma. There's at least a couple of other videos that feature this symbol.

Somebody in the current video thread pointed out the appearance of the eyes/headlights/whatever, these could be another code, perhaps? There are videos in the first series that put an emphasis on eyes, perhaps they would fall in the same catergory.

You start to get a list a bit like this...

From "S/Sigma":

Program, Advocate, Warning

From "Eyes":

Addition (see the description), Fragments, Indicator (maybe!), Memories, Inquiry



I don't know whether this works that well or not, but if people can see any other 'signatures' that might denote who the message is from, we might be able to divide all the TTA videos up that way.