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[LOCKED] Strange Phone Number... ARG, or real spy stuff?
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CNM
Greenhorn

Joined: 25 Jun 2013
Posts: 4

RE: OTP22 Music

Hey, I've been watching you all progress on this ARG (?) for several months now, but have lurked in the forum and never been on the IRC. I'm posting now because I think I may be able to help out with transcribing the songs to sheet music; I consider myself a "musical person" (I've played classical piano for appr. 8 years) and I might be able to help out. I think I could be able to come on the IRC sometime today (6/25/2013). Look for the nick CNM.

Also, I don't think it's an ARG, for two primary reasons. First off, the picture on the ORIGINAL /b/ thread (The feds are monitoring this thread) and secondly (of course) Sally Fischel. Also, possibly what UKspook's friend said about it not being "classified by us".

PostPosted: Tue Jun 25, 2013 12:41 am
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charon the ferryman
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Location: LA

Is this an ARG? Well....

My 2 cents on the "is this an ARG" question is simply to state that the El Cerrito drop used clear tape to stick the map with two CDs to a cement wall. It fell down quite predictably. It could have blown away had the Bay winds picked up.

I'm a geocacher and in terms of sophistication, that drop had none. Professionals, and even practiced geocachers, could have hidden/secured it much better.

I will say the telephony system is quite puzzling due to the resources involved and the cyptography advanced compared to commercial ARGs. But the clear tape says ARG to me.

Now I am sure I will be monitored ruthlessly by the PMs on all available channels. Disconnecting from interwebz in 3, 2, 1....

PostPosted: Tue Jun 25, 2013 1:45 am
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CNM
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El Cerrito

That's certainly a good point you make. Perhaps they expected it to be quickly picked up? In fact... what if they expected it to be picked up by OTP22 and deliberately planted it as disinfo?

PostPosted: Tue Jun 25, 2013 9:32 am
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L0j1k
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OTP22 ARG?

CNM THANK YOU for your help. I noticed you stepped into #ARG on Freenode. Next time you're in the channel send me a PM and we'll talk. Your help is VERY appreciated! I'm not sure how many other players support my assertion that this music is significant, but in my eyes, it can't be anything but. If only to convey a small or tangential message, but significant nonetheless.

On the subject of whether or not this is an ARG, I have been a programmer for a very long time and recently set up an Asterisk PBX (open source, free telephony software) so that I could spoof Caller ID information. That's actually how I was able to get the Fort Lauderdale Airport clues without being there. Caller ID spoofing and a lot of SE/BSing airport employees to physically search the area. Anyways, in the process of setting up an Asterisk, I have come to the conclusion that this ARG is *not* difficult to set up. Any group of well-coordinated hackers could pull this off. The most important pieces of our puzzle (Agent System, Message Desk, and Material Order Desk) can *very* easily be pulled off by a couple of people and an asterisk. It's amazing how easily and quickly you can set up an Asterisk to make your wildest dreams come true and basically do anything you can imagine with a telephone system.

There are other facets of this "game" that are also explainable by the "well-coordinated hackers" idea. I have spent an enormous amount of time on the phone with both Message Desk and "Robby"/Material Order Desk. Hours, probably. I am fairly certain that MD and MOD are/were puppet masters (PMs). In particular, there was a conversation I had with MD in which I spoofed Caller ID to appear as though I was calling from FLL airport, and I had convinced MD that I was actually there and the phone wasn't responding. MD simply knew too much about the specific situation for me to continue believing that he is/was simply a virtual assistant. I firmly believe he is a PM.

Also, without going on too much of a tangent, I spent a long time in the US Army, in the infantry, working with all kinds of special operations and CIA and other secret squirrel types that were doing all kinds of secret squirrel projects. From this firsthand knowledge of how at least the American government operates, I am confident to a *very* high degree that this is not a government project. In the wildest realities where astronomical odds are significant, it could be a government-contractor sort of training platform, but even then, our interaction with the system is too high for the project not to be cancelled or at least moved to another medium.

CNM and anyone else who works on transcription of the music: THANK YOU again. You are doing us an enormous favor, and we are in your debt. Smile

PostPosted: Tue Jun 25, 2013 8:27 pm
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bambusar
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To brake a wall of text with picture:



PostPosted: Tue Jun 25, 2013 9:27 pm
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bambusar
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Re: RE: OTP22 Music

CNM wrote:

Also, I don't think it's an ARG, for two primary reasons. First off, the picture on the ORIGINAL /b/ thread (The feds are monitoring this thread) and secondly (of course) Sally Fischel. Also, possibly what UKspook's friend said about it not being "classified by us".


That image of NSA badge and "we are watching you sincerely NSA" was posted on 4chan many times before. Google image it and you have plenty of hits.




Sally Fisher car accident might be just a coincidence. They tend to happen at most unpredictable times.

Quote from this Gamasutra article:
Code:
"Fun coincidences
When you apply perhaps tens of thousands of people to figuring out a problem of your making, they'll come up with solutions you didn't know existed - weird coincidences that must have been better than intentional."


And spooks contacts from British National Service Headquarters (NSHQ) basically said that they have no idea what this could be. But they were interested like we all are.

But still, since nothing can be proven all possibilities are open, and that is beauty of this game. It sparks your imagination.

PostPosted: Tue Jun 25, 2013 10:23 pm
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Xkeeper
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Joined: 12 Dec 2012
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Re: OTP22 Music

13:16 <Xkeeper> http://xkeeper.net/private/otp22/1AudioTrack.ogg
13:16 <Xkeeper> http://xkeeper.net/private/otp22/2AudioTrack.ogg


These are the two songs that were on the CD. 7 MB and 1 MB, no huge download.

Obviously if you want 1:1 signal you'll want the AIFF, but if you just want to listen to the creepies then these are for you.




Also, this is an ARG. That should be obvious from the fact that, if the conversations were really supposed to be secure, they wouldn't keep broadcasting them in the same way every time Wink

PostPosted: Wed Jun 26, 2013 4:23 pm
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CNM
Greenhorn

Joined: 25 Jun 2013
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Thank you for your support L0j1k, I hope to upload (at least) a partial transcription of robot step, though it's a bit painstaking. Do you know what tone/MIDI instrument/audio file was used to create the actual notes in the song?

PostPosted: Wed Jun 26, 2013 5:50 pm
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L0j1k
Boot


Joined: 10 May 2013
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OTP22 Music

Aloha everyone and CNM.

No, we have no idea what was used to create the music at all. That goes from what PMs used to create the individual notes all the way up to what was used to create the individual "bits" of notes in the robot step music.

Beyond some speculation about obvious things, like whether or not the guitar is actual guitar or synthesizer, we are frankly not musical enough to make super-educated guesses about the nature of the music we've been exposed to. We have people who are experienced with computer programs enough to make guesses about the applications used to put it all together (and possibly make some of the notes), but that's about it.

Thanks for your help again! Smile

PostPosted: Wed Jun 26, 2013 7:12 pm
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Ha'navi
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Joined: 26 Jun 2013
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Location: SoCal, the land of stepford zombie robots.

Newest OTP22 recruit.

Hello everyone

I'm new to unfiction and to ARG's in general, but this one is so intriguing that I wanted to get involved. I spent the last two days reading up and i'm willing to help wherever possible. I'm in california and I just got out of the military after 9 years (once i get onto #arg i'll let you all know my exact location and a little more about my military background - it may come in useful). If there's anything I can do to be of assistance at all, please let me know. I'm so far down the rabbit hole now I don't ever think I'll find my way out. Talk to you guys soon.

PostPosted: Thu Jun 27, 2013 1:29 am
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unclear
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Joined: 04 Dec 2007
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Hey, been a while.

I am not all that musical so I'm not sure if this is a viable idea or not, but has anyone tried using a tuner to figure out the notes of the songs? I believe there are software based tuners (iPhone app or whatever)... maybe have to slow the tracks down or separate out individual notes to not overwhelm the tuner, but just thought I would throw the idea out there.

Also will run it by a few of my more musically inclined friends this weekend.

PostPosted: Thu Jun 27, 2013 3:26 am
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Ha'navi
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Location: SoCal, the land of stepford zombie robots.

unclear wrote:
Hey, been a while.

I am not all that musical so I'm not sure if this is a viable idea or not, but has anyone tried using a tuner to figure out the notes of the songs? I believe there are software based tuners (iPhone app or whatever)... maybe have to slow the tracks down or separate out individual notes to not overwhelm the tuner, but just thought I would throw the idea out there.

Also will run it by a few of my more musically inclined friends this weekend.


That actually is not a bad idea. There are plenty of free tuners online; most of them are for the guitar but the ones that actually analyze the sound will tell you what note is being played. The only problem i can foresee is that most tuners can only analyze a single tone at a time. if there is a lot happening musically, it might throw the tuner off and cause an inaccurate reading. Either way, i'll take a look tomorrow and see if i can't find something useful.

PostPosted: Thu Jun 27, 2013 3:42 am
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CNM
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Joined: 25 Jun 2013
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Ha'navi wrote:
unclear wrote:
Hey, been a while.

I am not all that musical so I'm not sure if this is a viable idea or not, but has anyone tried using a tuner to figure out the notes of the songs? I believe there are software based tuners (iPhone app or whatever)... maybe have to slow the tracks down or separate out individual notes to not overwhelm the tuner, but just thought I would throw the idea out there.

Also will run it by a few of my more musically inclined friends this weekend.


That actually is not a bad idea. There are plenty of free tuners online; most of them are for the guitar but the ones that actually analyze the sound will tell you what note is being played. The only problem i can foresee is that most tuners can only analyze a single tone at a time. if there is a lot happening musically, it might throw the tuner off and cause an inaccurate reading. Either way, i'll take a look tomorrow and see if i can't find something useful.


Yes, that would be possible if the songs were merely sequences of single tones, but sadly they are not. The reason I was asking if anyone know the exact waveform used to generate the notes was because I might have been able to use an algorithm to extract a chord sequence in that case. Anyways, I plan to eventually upload three different versions of robot step: A "barebones" melody, a partially harmonized version (like the one in the audio file), and a fully harmonized version. I plan to do this because some of the harmonies and chords are quite difficult to decipher with my regular method which consists of examining the spec and pitch diagrams in audacity, then attempting to play bits of the song on the piano by ear and trying to organize that into a piece on the computer.

Also, Is there a higher sampling rate or quality version of either/each song that I could use?

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Xkeeper
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For the .wav recordings from the dialer, that's the best there is. it's a phone line, after all.

PostPosted: Thu Jun 27, 2013 12:10 pm
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bambusar
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Since we were too slow to find memory card at Florida TDD phone drop we might get second chance.

New message on agent number 16041:

Code:
18111


http://otp22.referata.com/wiki/Agent_Systems/16041


Message on 180111:

Z 27090931Z JUN 13

Code:
SECRET//PRJMLPL//75X5
MSGID/16041//
SUBJ/16041//
/FORMAT/OBJ/00001/ASCII//
/OBJ/00001/
NO ACTIVITY DETECTED.
IF A NEW CALLING CARD IS
REQUIRED FOR 412-888
SYSTEM, USE AGENT CODE
99992.


http://otp22.referata.com/wiki/Agent_Systems/18111


Quote:
[04:55] nadando calling 99992 now
[04:55] nadando response accepted


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