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[VIDEO] Entry #64
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 		The question is no longer who is ToTheArk, but why is he/she/they/it doing what he/she/they/it are doing? The 'who' is irrelevant at this point.

PostPosted: Sat Oct 13, 2012 11:20 pm
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 		Re: Black Eyes For Tim AND Jay
Blank_Zero wrote:
Just leaving this here from the Entry 63 thread:

Blank_Zero wrote:
Speculation here.

What if Entry 29's bit is coming up.

What if that bloody shirt belongs/ed to Tim?


amrith777 wrote:
Was looking at footage and caught Jay in reflection...remind you of anything (RETURN?)

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OH MY GOD TIM'S UNDERSHIRT IS WHITE.

(half-kidding)

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 		Re: Black Eyes For Tim AND Jay
Blank_Zero wrote:
amrith777 wrote:
Was looking at footage and caught Jay in reflection...remind you of anything (RETURN?)

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Looks more like shadow from the sun being overhead on Jay's face anyhow.


BOTH Jays eyes are black.Go back and watch it and look frame by frame.I'm not good at catching and I reviewed this very carefully as I despise the process of finding,capping,saving,cropping,putting on photobucket,getting code,and upping here.
Not trying to argue--but I feel this is VERY important and quite obvious that they wanted it to be evident.Think of Jay in "Return" just sitting there DAZED.

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Serum wrote:
The question is no longer who is ToTheArk, but why is he/she/they/it doing what he/she/they/it are doing? The 'who' is irrelevant at this point.


Well lets look at the basic facts

- Has freaky paranormal video and audio manipulation abilities like Oppo
- Unlike Slendy it seems to be using this to communicate with Jay instead of just messing up Jay/Alex's vids
- It is able to constantly keep a watch on Jay/Tim, suggesting freaky paranormal physical abilities like Oppo
- It wants Jay's investigation to keep going and has "helped" him on occasion
- It does not seem to like Alex
- It has a big connection with Tim/Masky, and seems to want the Masky side of him to be dominant
- It has another big connection to Hoody

All in all there's pretty much nothing concrete about TTA's motives save it's hatred for Alex

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 		Jay is a lousy runner. Tim comes before him to the car. In #40 Hoody comes before him to the car...

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 		Re: Black Eyes For Tim AND Jay
amrith777 wrote:
Blank_Zero wrote:
amrith777 wrote:
Was looking at footage and caught Jay in reflection...remind you of anything (RETURN?)


Looks more like shadow from the sun being overhead on Jay's face anyhow.


And it looks to me like Tim's eyes are a little darker than normal-- it might just be me, it may be a trick of the light, but he doesn't look right.

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 		I just finished reading through everything, and I'm pretty sure that, by the time I've finished writing this, I'll have ten more pages to sift through.

My response to some points made:

- I saw the blackened eyes near the end of the video at the parking lot. I immediately thought of Return as well, meaning that this contact with the Operator was on the same "scale"(?) as it was when he was completely out cold/in a trance from that time ago. What it could mean? No clue as of yet.

- The Operator's appearance scared the shit out of me. I thought I had the balls to watch it with all the lights off in my room, and now I'm scared shitless. Great.

- Hoody is definitely not the bad guy in all this imo, and I have some reasoning as to why. His method of bringing him and Tim together was extreme, but it worked, and they did come back together to continue the investigation. Hoody wants Jay to document his findings (Entry #41, when Hoody delivers the camera to his car), and he led Jay to Tim's medical records, which helped Jay find Tim when he stole his medication.

- Speaking of the camera being delivered to the car, I still think there's a possibility that Tim wasn't teleported to the car. In Entry #41/42, Hoody was able to make it to the parking lot before Jay and Alex did, so is it possible that Hoody just knows every possible path of Rosswood, and knows all of the quickest routes to arrive sooner than Jay did in this entry? I'm using Hoody in this example to support my next theory: Maybe Hoody saved Tim from the Operator, and then carried him to the parking lot. That would be pretty unlikely, being that Tim's weight would make Hoody walk slowly, and even if he knew a quicker route, it wouldn't be possible for him to lug Tim across Rosswood before Jay (who was running) reached his car.

- The "ark" is most likely whatever is at the end of that tunnel. Almost every time someone enters it, the Operator appears, and/or nothing can be seen after it's entered.

- Alex is obviously still alive, though whether or not he was intending to help or taunt Tim and Jay is still beyond me. Maybe Alex considers Tim to be a "liar" like Hoody does, which would explain why Alex called Jay and not Tim; He wanted Jay to "leave" before Tim harmed him, and sicc'd the Operator on Tim to get him away from Jay. Why he would be sent to his car as a result? No clue, just theorizing.

- The person that Jay was calling in the last entry was probably Alex's old phone number, being that he switched to a new and unknown one. Why would Jay call Alex after all the shit that transpired at the end of 52? Again, no idea.

- Lastly, I do believe that Tim transformed into Masky at the end of the entry, being that he had some form of seizure/coughing fit after seeing the Operator, and that, based on Entry #61, his exposure to these fits rendered him silent like he was in the car. His lack of response to anything Jay was saying to him reminded me of his lack of response in Entry #62, when Tim began chasing him even though Jay was calling his name.

I may have some more ideas, and I'm still looking through the video to cover anything else I may have missed. Fantastic entry, brilliant Operator appearance, and I hope that the next video is Tim's camera footage, on the MH page or TTA, I don't care. I just finally want to see what happened to Tim! Shocked

EDIT: One more thing.

I saw a bunch of comments relating this to "noentry", and I like the idea that they're connected, though time manipulation may be a bit much. Also, I always had the impression that, rather than "noentry" meaning "don't enter the tunnel", it instead meant "do not post this video as an entry". Maybe TTA or Alex didn't want Jay to post the footage from the tunnel online. My bets are on Alex because, considering the shit he's done in there and his urge to get Tim and Jay out of there, he does not want that tunnel (and whatever's at the end of it) to be recorded.
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 		Someone wanna make a GIF of Operator advancing on them? I'd love you forever. Or at least respect you.
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Judge Holden wrote:
Serum wrote:
The question is no longer who is ToTheArk, but why is he/she/they/it doing what he/she/they/it are doing? The 'who' is irrelevant at this point.


Well lets look at the basic facts

- Has freaky paranormal video and audio manipulation abilities like Oppo
- Unlike Slendy it seems to be using this to communicate with Jay instead of just messing up Jay/Alex's vids
- It is able to constantly keep a watch on Jay/Tim, suggesting freaky paranormal physical abilities like Oppo
- It wants Jay's investigation to keep going and has "helped" him on occasion
- It does not seem to like Alex
- It has a big connection with Tim/Masky, and seems to want the Masky side of him to be dominant
- It has another big connection to Hoody

All in all there's pretty much nothing concrete about TTA's motives save it's hatred for Alex


That's actually very concrete. What's Alex been doing, then, that would make TTA hate him? I'd say Alex "going over to the dark side" and becoming an ally to the Operator seems like a likely candidate. So, that, logically, would place TTA against the Operator.

I'm still firmly in the camp of TTA being an anti(emphasis on the anti)-hero. It's his methods which are questonable. His ends are the same as Tim and Jay: Stop Alex and the Operator. But, their means are where they differ.

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 		Things are getting exciting, now. We've seen Masky unmasked, the Operator go absolutely ballistic and have heard from Alex, who has been missing for over a year and a half.

I could have sworn that when Tim was on the ground having his fit, the Operator was sucking Tim towards him, similar to what happened at the end of Entry 52 to Jay...

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 		Re: Black Eyes For Tim AND Jay
Foood wrote:
Blank_Zero wrote:
Just leaving this here from the Entry 63 thread:

Blank_Zero wrote:
Speculation here.

What if Entry 29's bit is coming up.

What if that bloody shirt belongs/ed to Tim?


amrith777 wrote:
Was looking at footage and caught Jay in reflection...remind you of anything (RETURN?)

[img]



OH MY GOD TIM'S UNDERSHIRT IS WHITE.

(half-kidding)


FUCK ALL THE THEORIES

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 		Re: Black Eyes For Tim AND Jay
Blank_Zero wrote:

FUCK ALL THE THEORIES


Oh, that's mature.

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 		Re: Black Eyes For Tim AND Jay
Serum wrote:
Blank_Zero wrote:

FUCK ALL THE THEORIES


Oh, that's mature.


So's your face!

Very Happy

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Foood wrote:

Get the paper, Jay, get the paper!
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I was thinking the same thing; considering the amount of "paper clues" in this series you'd think he'd at least consider it.


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Do any of you guys think Tim is just really pissed at Jay for leaving him in the tunnel? I'd be kinda mad.

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 		Re: Black Eyes For Tim AND Jay
Blank_Zero wrote:
Serum wrote:
Blank_Zero wrote:

FUCK ALL THE THEORIES


Oh, that's mature.


So's your face!

Very Happy


Oh, you wanna play that way? We can play that way. Gaylord.

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