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[VIDEO] Entry #64
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jenni42ld
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Just got caught up on 16 pages of discussion! Wow! Wow for the entry as well as the discussions. I loved the entry btw. I jumped up and yelled when Alex called. At any rate, I have a few thoughts.

1) I do hope we see the footage from the chest cam Tim had on. And I am wondering if it has more footage on it than Jay's does... like if we played them side by side, all synced up with each other at the beginning when they are together (which I do hope either someone can put together, or maybe I will try to figure it out?) when they separate, what if Tim's camera has more footage on it, length wise? Like more time passed for him than it did for Jay, while he was running through the woods. I mean, I still REALLY REALLY want to see what is on Tim's camera, we all do, but that'd be very interesting and give us more insight into how "lost time" works.

2) How about a tunnel test? I did see several people ask if Jay/Tim could just walk over/around the tunnel to the other end. I would imagine that they could and it wouldn't tell us anything. I'd like to see a test. What if Tim walked over/around to the other side, and Jay stayed at the "normal" side they approach from. Can they see one another? Could Tim walk all the way through to meet Jay? Could Jay and Tim walk towards one another, and meet in the middle? And if the Operator does show up, which side does he come from, to attack the other person? Or does TO appear to both of them and move towards both of them? That would tell us if he was extra-dimensional (as has been suggested before). And would they see two Slendys, one facing them and one not? If not, if they both had cameras, what would looking at the footage side by side tell us? Would both Slendys move the same way at the same time (which would tell us something about how time works as well as the extradimensional bit, or maybe there really is more than one). Yes, I know that this is not something we'd ever see, but it would be really interesting I think.

3) Jay was distressed that he couldn't find any info of a missing person when Bruce got his head smashed. But we just saw Tim lying at TO's feet, then gone....and then he was at his car, driving away. Maybe there were no reports because Bruce wasn't killed but transported elsewhere. But Alex really did for him...maybe he was teleported elsewhere and gotten to a hospital? Or maybe TO healed him (doubtful I think)? It seemed odd to me the attention Jay paid to trying to find reports of someone missing or killed, it seemed like a trivial thing compared to all our other questions. But I think it was a clue and an intended message for us: there were no reports because Bruce never did disappear. Like we now know as happened to Tim, he just ended up elsewhere.
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GnomonRose
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MarbleArk wrote:
CyberHawk wrote:

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We didn't learn anything new this entry. I know this is par for the course for most of these series, but nothing at all? Now Jay has lost track of Tim. Again. I can't really tell where they're headed with this.



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I think Alex being alive is new and important information. I mean, a lot of us speculated that he was still alive, but we still weren't 100% sure


OR...we've seen people's voices, including Alex's, echoed before by TO, and this was through an unknown number through technology...it could have been TO pretending to be Alex!
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Geneaux486
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pravado wrote:
when jay looks down the stairs you can see the door was clearly moved a little to make it darker downstairs. the door was open when jay entered giving light inside, and it was more than likely closed when he looked down again. this has been discussed so much and this was the consensus. time travel doesn't make sense in marble hornets. there's no way you're getting me to believe they filmed the entry in two parts (one during the day and one at night) because it just doesn't make sense to when you can put a sheet over the blinds to get the same effect. notice how troy doesn't pan over near the window the second time, they only let you see what they want you to see


I'm not sure I believe that this became the concensus after lengthy discussion, seeing as how it's wrong on multiple levels. I just rewatched entry 23 to make sure I remembered it right, and yeah:

1. They do pan over to the bedroom window at least twice. Once it had daylight coming in, the second time, no daylight at all.

2. Even if what you were saying about the open door being the primary source of light were true, there would also still be light coming from that living room with the sliding glass door, which not only had visible light coming through the blinds but also windows as well.

3. Saying time travel doesn't make sense in Marble Hornets is arbitrary and baseless. In this same entry Jay warps from room to room, opening doors to rooms that the doors shouldn't be opening to, but time travel is where we draw the line? The concept of time travel makes as much sense in this series as any of the other impossible things that have happened.

4. None of this matters anyway, because it clearly goes from day to night in this entry in a matter of moments, so like it or not, yes, there has been time travel in Marble Hornets.

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Given that we've seen doors already not go to the same place, it wouldn't surprise me to learn that the tunnel goes somewhere different when you walk through it instead of over it. That's why they can't just walk around it.

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GnomonRose
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aidansean wrote:
Jay's camera lingers a little too long on someone walking along in the distance at 10:41. Is that Alex?

Here is a screenshot. http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mbxbc7rQUN1qkgajxo1_500.png
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Lytrigian
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RawrItsLiv wrote:
Where could Tim have gone?

Indeed. Where could he have gone?

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It seems unlikely that he has gone to the Hoodie Hut (which may or may not exist at this point) after what transpired in the tunnel. I also doubt he is heading to his home.


He might be. Last time we saw Jay looking like that, he came home afterward.

The Hoody Hut almost certainly exists. Whether it occupies a space that's accessible to the unHooded and unMasked is another question.

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azureknight
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WARNING Random guess work from someone usually wrong is about to occur:
Just skim read this thread after watching the episode so sorry if I missed any obvious reasons why this can't be the case but I really like the idea of time/dimension travel. I really feel like Entry 29 and Entry 64 are directly linked. Jay gives Tim his camera explaining the second camera(29) being held to the side. Events in the tunnel happen, Jay runs, TO takes Tim. Tim is teleported to a year ago. Tim is terrified, runs around, doesn't know where he is but remembers the events n the tunnel. He chooses to run towards the tunnel to find Jay, Theres no one there but he sees the blood on the floor and on the stone. Somehow that data on the camera is taken and given to past Jay, either by TO, Alex, Tim himself or a freak accident created by TO weird camera messing powers. TO then takes Tim and he is then returned to normal time with either partial/no memory or remembers something really sinister associated with Jay. He has appeared in his car just in time to see Jay and drives away.
The main reason this idea might be derailed is because of the black object on the camera holder's wrist in entry 29. In 64 Tim has no such bracelet,band or watch on his right hand. It could possibly be a strap on the camera wrapped around his wrist but I'm not sure. Anyway, what do you think?

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TheFuss
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On the topic of how Tim got back to the car before Jay - the way Jay's camera glitches when he's running through the forest after leaving Tim is a lot like the way it glitches both when he's in the tunnel as the Op is getting closer, and the way it glitched in #60 in the maintenance tunnel when the Op was nearly catching up with him.

Considering the video breaks in a few places, could that be evidence that Op got to them both, then let Tim go first?

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Lytrigian wrote:
RawrItsLiv wrote:
Where could Tim have gone?

Indeed. Where could he have gone?

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CraicIsMighty
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Random thought: if that really was Alex on the phone, and Alex has possibly been following them around, could that have been Alex walking around above Jay in entry 60? The thought that Alex can just sense where they are is quite creepy. Shocked

Also, I wonder if we're going to see masky again soon. Maybe Jay is going to try to follow Tim and end up meeting masky and/or hoodie?

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Geneaux486
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CraicIsMighty wrote:
Random thought: if that really was Alex on the phone, and Alex has possibly been following them around, could that have been Alex walking around above Jay in entry 60? The thought that Alex can just sense where they are is quite creepy. Shocked

Also, I wonder if we're going to see masky again soon. Maybe Jay is going to try to follow Tim and end up meeting masky and/or hoodie?


I'd say the footsteps were probably the hooded figure. I don't think Alex has been following them, I think he was living in or near the tunnel and saw them that way.

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Geneaux486 wrote:
I don't think Alex has been following them, I think he was living in or near the tunnel and saw them that way.


Great, so Alex is a tunnel toll troll. If that's the case, I'm sure his beard has grown down to his balls and he has an extensive urine collection stored in Gatorade bottles.

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A few thoughts;

a) On the invisible hoody hut; This leads me to wonder if it's hidden to those who have not been permitted access, or if it literally moves locations. Either way, I'd say this pays some credence to the idea of it being Hoody's hideout. At the very least, having taken the time to have Tim and Jay look for it, and point out that it is no longer there, has ensured that it holds some plot significance.

b) On Alex not being dead; Would anybody have been even remotely satisfied with this story, had Alex been killed?

c) On Timeportation; There's no evidence of anything but the fact that Tim made it back first. In a universe in which people lose time constantly, and the main antagonist's supernatural abilities include distorting cameras, is it that much of a stretch to think that TO may have caught up the Jay, attacked him, fucked up the camera and his brain, during that time Tim made it past, and back to his car? Probably not the likeliest case, but it's worth saying that the teleportation theory has not been proven.

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Jeremy_Thunder wrote:
...but it's worth saying that the teleportation theory has not been proven.


Right, which is why the Operator can appear from seemingly nowhere at will and disappear back to... wherever. Nope, that's not teleportation, that's just smoke and mirrors.

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Serum wrote:
Geneaux486 wrote:
I don't think Alex has been following them, I think he was living in or near the tunnel and saw them that way.


Great, so Alex is a tunnel toll troll. If that's the case, I'm sure his beard has grown down to his balls and he has an extensive urine collection stored in Gatorade bottles.


It would explain why Tim and Jay weren't able to reach the other end of the tunnel, they didn't pay the troll toll.

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