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[TheFallenenvoy]

[TRAILHEAD] Unlock The Truth

[BubbleBoy]

Yeah. They lost me when I found out I had to do research.

[OhWhatProvidence]

[TheFallenenvoy]

Deer lort...alice in wonderland was written 3 miles from me D:

But that's an interesting development. I dont have a pc right now so I cant participate as much as I wish I could so you guys will have to hold the fort

[jono]

Well, I can try my best with this Alice stuff.

Compilation of Knowledge #2

-Alice is often alone and seems to be very shy at the start of the first book, her trip through Wonderland is often seen as a voyage of self-descovery for her

Answer

- "She taught me to teach myself things, so that I could learn about things that I wanted to, instead of things she wanted me to" "I would study books on how to do things, instead of being taught how to do them by my Mother." these are very Alice behaviours Carrol decribed her as "curious – wildly curious"

The Wrong Way: Klaus' Opinion

- The Cheshire Cat does not appear in "Through the Looking Glass and What Alice Found There" making this connection a tad loose

- A "Cheshire Smile" has debated origins it could come from either the Liddell family arms from from a carving in a local church.

-The Cheshire Cat is the pet of The Dutchess (might suggest a leadership structure)

Through The Looking-Glass

- This talks about "America Mcgee's Alice" a video game from the mid-2000's which got a follow up called "Alice: Madness Returns" I did play it when it came out and it is a lot darker.

Basically it makes Wonderland Alice's retreat from her madness (most of the game she is inside an Asylum) and to escape her madness she has to defeat Wonderland (or a demon train if you look at the second game)

A quick dash through the sound files of my PC copy I found these Cheshire quotes to stand out:

[OhWhatProvidence]

Thankies Jono!

Ooooh, lots of new posts. Getting fun.

I reallllllly hope it isn't DID. It's so cliche, and... it just doesn't feel right. Could be a twin, or just someone who looks like him sort of (it's been dark every time the stalker's been seen, heck it could just be a similar build/haircut and color and that's enough to confuse most people, esp if afraid because being stalked.)



arrrrrrrgh I can't post anything because I don't have a tumblr. I don't want to get one for this game, sorry. I'll just lurk and post here I guess.

[TheFallenenvoy]

well I have a PC back now...so if you want me to pass on a message I can!

shall I submit those research notes there or has that been done? xD

EDIT: (oh god... as much as I loved Dreams in Darkness, I really hope it isn't one of those scenarios D

[OhWhatProvidence]

I don't think it has, pass it on and pass on this from me:

[BubbleBoy]

[OhWhatProvidence]

Yes, I know the McDonald Triad. :p Harming animals, starting fires, wetting the bed. (though, the Triad is still under debate as to confusing cause and effect)

I wasn't talking about "the killer doesn't seem to be a part of an alter", I meant "the condition known as DID is a coping mechanism and so killing doesn't fit the profile of DID at all. The alter exists to protect the host/any other alters and killing in non-self defense doesn't fit the profile of DID/alters and what (little) we know about them."

Hmmm. I like that Cheshire idea, BubbleBoy. Very nice. If we could get more description of the victim's lives or what they look like. So far it's just the something-to-do-with-Alice, right? No physical features connecting them a la Berkowitz and dark haired women?

[Stroma]

[OhWhatProvidence]

yea, some doctors even nowadays are unsure if it exists or if it's some form of schizoid disorder.

Re-researching, (I haven't researched DID in a while, tbh. I thought I had a good enough memory of it but 'parnetly not) yea there have been cases of what could possibly DID alters committing murders. But, yea cliche and difficult to determine.

/offtopic ramblings about DID

I'mma read over again and look for any other hints/connections between vics I/we might have missed. I did read it late at night, so was tired. ><

[Stroma]

Schizoids usually prefer to be solitary; contrary to popular belief, this does not make you a murderer, and I found a forum where somebody asked schizoids if they could murder somebody, the majority reported no. Did you mean a schizophrenic disorder? The two are often confused.

[OhWhatProvidence]

Yes. Gah, I'm just making mistakes all over the place. I SWEAR I used to know this stuff left and right, I guess I'm just relying on my memory too much..... Need to re-learn all this all over again before theorizing anymore. >< Sorry for that.

[TheFallenenvoy]

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