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rickplutonium
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 		My own theories
I think that the treasure has gone to a very worthy cause, well done to the pirates!

As the treasure was discovered close to the area that I was homing in on, I thought I might throw my own thoughts in, although I've found that things in hunts are never quite what they seem, and this could all be a wild coincidence!

I won't go into all of the details about what leads to this point, but on the cross (and flying bit of stone) on the comic book page there are numbers 1, 2, 3, 4 and 5. If you use those numbers to order the mysteriously disappearing exclamations of the pirates, and then apply the lottery numbers to them, it is possible to get the term MAMUTH P, which is a contraction of the latin name for a woolly mammoth. There is only one in NYC, at the Museum of Natural History.

From the museum, you simply add the numbers in Episode 4 to get 111 (furlongs) (*add* insult to injury - Crothers and Nelson's injuries). Tom gives the direction to head (South) when he hangs upside-down in the previous episode. Tom always gives clues to the next episode. If you travel 111 furlongs south from the museum, you hit Leif Ericsson Drive. Leif Ericsson was the first Norseman to visit North America, and there are lots of clues in episode 7 to Norse mythology and runes.

You are then not far away from the final location. As I said, could all be a coincidence, or course....

Best wishes

Rick

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 		At the end of Episode 5 (Poker), I'm at/near Flatbush Ave & Avenue U, based on walking along Ave U from Ocean Ave (Leslie Sebastian Charles to Hal Vukovich), as has been posted.

The start of Ep. 6, confirms this location via the Vitamin Shoppe ("don't eat those vitamins" in an english accent), but I don't really go anywhere in Ep 6.

Ep 4: Go 28 furlongs on a bus along flatbush ave headed SSE (the way you haven't gone). This takes me just over the Gil Hodges Bridge to ROckaway, but "you've gone too far," so come back one bus stop (note Crothers 180), which puts you at the entrance to Floyd Bennett Field. I also interpretted Clue 40 "North Section" (Japanese characters) as "North 40 woods," although I was a bit concerned that this came before the "you've gone too far"

Ep 7: If you watch Mulligan down below deck, you see that the wood used to patch the hole in the cabin (due to the French), makes a pattern that looks like the number 4. This is a dead on match for the pattern of runways at Floyd Bennett Field.

Within Floyd Bennett, we tried a number of theories (potato patch in the community garden; home plate on the baseball field, crows nest by the army reserve facility, control tower of the model airplane field) The last one was the closest. We did walk through the North 40 woods in a few places (near the model airplane tower and along the road from the model airplane field and near flatbush ave), and figured out that the planes to JFK could be the flying birdies, but never figured out exactly where the ship was.

At this point, I presume you were supposed to take Cybill Shepherd (aka Maddie Hayes) and spell it "ele not ill" and get Cybele and then use a giant pine tree for the ship. That never occurred to me and probably would not have occurred to me.

I'm looking forward to hearing the full solution.

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 		I just want to know if my bus routes were correct in the poker episode. For example, "call 4 for sure" -> 4 bus on Shore Rd, Jack to Queens -> Jackson Ave to Queens Blvd. Nobody else seemed to think those were correct. If they weren't, then I had to no chance at logically solving this.

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Badger wrote:
I also interpretted Clue 40 "North Section" (Japanese characters) as "North 40 woods," although I was a bit concerned that this came before the "you've gone too far"

I initially had the same concern when I read that theory in the other thread, but then I remembered that Tom's clues are always used in the next episode. Which means that, according to your theory, clues in Episode 7 should guide us to the North 40 Natural Area, which is consistent with how they describe the solution in the New York Times blog post:
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"There are the black hell-type gates," Mr. Bova said, referring to a clue in "We Lost Our Gold" as they walked toward the North 40 Natural Area, part of the Gateway National Recreational Area.


Badger wrote:
At this point, I presume you were supposed to take Cybill Shepherd (aka Maddie Hayes) and spell it "ele not ill" and get Cybele and then use a giant pine tree for the ship. That never occurred to me and probably would not have occurred to me.

It only occurred to me to interpret Mulligan's "ILL/ELE" as that kind of transformation a few months ago, but at the time, I only tried applying it to dialogue in the episodes.

If you do a search on OneLook for all common words and phrases ending in ELE, Cybele is among the 97 results. It's not that far-fetched that someone might have done that and changed all ELEs to ILLs; then Cybill would jump out...

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ccl28 wrote:
I just want to know if my bus routes were correct in the poker episode. For example, "call 4 for sure" -> 4 bus on Shore Rd, Jack to Queens -> Jackson Ave to Queens Blvd. Nobody else seemed to think those were correct. If they weren't, then I had to no chance at logically solving this.

Your Episode 5 solution still seems to be the best one so far. It seemed to provide a way for the Captain and Tom to get to the St. Michael's Cemetery area, as predicted by the position of Tom's throwing star in Episode 3. Episode 6 also seemed to confirm that they were in a cemetery.

My theory was that Mulligan and Crothers were in Marine Park in Episode 6 (consistent with the most popular interpretation), while the Captain and Tom were in the cemetery up in Queens. This is why the comic book showed them fighting the snake from Marine Park in a cemetery. One confirmation that the Captain got to the cemetery by the end of Episode 5 was the skull that appeared from under the felt at the end of the episode; the Captain reacted to it by saying "Fills me with fear, it does. Since in Episode 7, he says that the only things that he is afraid of are ghosts, "walking skellingtons, and men what is dead," the idea that the skull represents a cemetery seems reasonable.

Then my idea was that in Episode 6, when Tom says "To catch up to you is destiny... when our paths are meant to be one.", he was predicting that they were going to reunite in the next episode (Episode 4). I had a scheme to reunite them in the Red Hook area.

The problem that I have with the idea that they all go directly from Marine Park to Floyd Bennett Field is that it fails to explain how Tom gets from the St. Michael's Cemetery area to Marine Park.

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Brick wrote:
The problem that I have with the idea that they all go directly from Marine Park to Floyd Bennett Field is that it fails to explain how Tom gets from the St. Michael's Cemetery area to Marine Park.


We have to wait for their list of clues to figure this out. I have no idea what is going on from the comic book forward. Everything I read from that episode onward seems to be a wild guess.

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