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[VIDEO] Entry 65
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saksxalmo
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I knew I'd be way late. Sad I saw the entry last night when it first came out, but I didn't get around to commenting until now, so forgive me if I repeat things that have already been said...


I noticed that Tim started limping some time after he freaked out in the room with the door. Given that after that he stops talking and starts beating the wall with the pipe, I think at that point he's gone Masky.

I wouldn't necessarily say the alternate dimension is the Ark (though that's possible). The other possibility is that the Ark is the room/door Tim was pointing at. This seems likely to me considering Tim seemed not to be able to enter by himself...

However, if the Ark IS the alternate universe thing, my thought is that TTA would want to get there to recover someone: assuming Hoody and Masky make up TTA, and Hoody is one of the original cast of MH, that leaves other cast members missing.

Jay would also have reason to go there, as Jessica could be there. Alex would want to find Amy, etc. It would also explain why TTA wants Jay and Tim to team up, as Jay is just sane enough, and Tim is able to go there. But this is all just speculation.
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tim where are you going? tim why did you leave your mask here?
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I too was under the impression that "Where could it be?" meant that Tim was looking for his mask. One more suggestion that he *had* been in that room at some point in the past, under other circumstances.

My guess is that Tim and Hoody have a complex relationship. Masky and Hoody would not be the same as Tim and Hoody. Hoody can probably work with or manipulate Masky in a way he cannot when it's just Tim.

I think the pills have the effect of suppressing the Masky part of Tim's personality, and he wanted to make DAMN sure it stayed down.

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A few other theories:

    Whenever anyone coughs as a result of The Operator, it's because they were mildly afflicted by his water.

    Tim understandably went crazy for a while(or longer) after his encounter with The Operator and thought he could see The Operator when he wasn't actually there. There wasn't actually anything next to or past the doors.

    The ark was not shown in this video. "The ark" simply means being able to die in peace, with the knowledge that The Operator and Alex paid for what they did to the Marble Hornets crew.

    Jay apparently doesn't realise that showing the chest cam footage before the footage of his meeting with Tim might worry some folks, he was only focused on showing the more important stuff first. Razz


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CHOMPS wrote:
So here's a theory my husband and I collaborated on.

- Assuming TO is one of the criminals from Alex's story in Entry #38, the way to get rid of TO once and for all is to set him on fire again.

- When TO takes you, he takes you through a body of water to protect himself from anything that might set him on fire. (We assume that dark world is his lair of sorts.)

- An ark can refer to a container of safekeeping, like the Ark of the Covenant.

- Therefore, TTA needs an ark to carry something flammable through the teleportation water to get rid of TO once and for all. How and why this involves the MH crew is anyone's guess. This was just a small piece to the large puzzle that makes some sense to us.

Cheers!


Welcome to the forums! So, unfortunately the first part of that theory is false because not quite so spoilery OOG:
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This was proven to be false during the dvd commentary. The story was not meant to be the operators backstory.
this was a big theory for awhile though.

Though the ARK being something meant to hold an important object was mentioned a long time ago and I could see it being correct. Maybe not fire in particular but who knows.

Personally I don't think the water world was a gate of sorts, I had mentioned this earlier but it kinda got buried, more like slendy is just kind of a dick and likes torturing people. The water world is the first place he tries to teleport you, but it takes awhile for it to work entirely. Hence the coughing and feeling like you're drowning since like half of your essence is in that world or something. After he succeeds in getting you here he just throws you all over the damn place messing with your mind, dragging you around, teleporting you up trees, and drowning you some more.

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Way way late on this...

(had to be at work early, then had a client call just after kids went down)

...but just had to say: Oh. My. Slender. God.

That...was just fecking terrifying. I felt like I hadn't breathed for the duration of the entry.

The chest cam footage, Tim being dragged backwards screaming, the "ohmygoodnesshe'sathehospitaltheoperatoristhereaaaargh"

It's absolutely terrifying, and suddenly I'm even more involved in Marble Hornets than I was before (and I'm accessorising my Movember 'tache with Tim-inspired sideburns...)

Right, I'm off to see what you all saw and I missed as I read through all 19 pages of theories and screen caps. My next post might thus be more informative, but I couldn't just let that entry pass without comment.

(I had a brief "what if Jay's the liar" moment, but I suspect the ending debunked that...and I expect I'll see that theory postulated and shot down in the first 6 pages Laughing )

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A lot of people have been talking about the fact that one of the slender sickness symptoms is coughing, and how this could be related to the water that Tim went through in the last entry. I would like to add credence to this by stating that one of Tim's medication allergies is to an anti-biotic, one that is given to people with pneumonia: a disease that is brought about by having moisture in the lungs...

May be a bit out-there...but you guys are surprisingly forgiving of that.

Very Happy

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DeeMeister wrote:
If the distortion is caused by Tim holding the camera though, why doesn't it affect the hand-held hes given just before they enter the tunnel in 64? I just checked and the hand-held one is fine till Slendy shows up to ruin Tim's day. And if the location causes it, why is some footage fine after Tim gets out? It's puzzling.


Because the footage after he got out never would have been to Slendyland. The footage shot before the trip to Slendyland would have been saved on the camera and could have been damaged/distorted while there.

Also, I forgot to write this in my last post, but I think Tim also went Masky between the time when he struggled to get up after leaving Slendyland to the time when he got to the hospital. I think he went back to Tim (or at least mostly Tim) when he had his freak out in the room with the door and the paint chips. Not sure about who he was when he took the pills, though.

(BTW, I'm only on like page 7, so...)
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tim im giving jay all your personal medical info because you're a fucking liar.
call me


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Guys, you're forgetting one important detail. Tim hasn't actually taken Jay to the hospital yet. Tim said they needed to "talk" AND go to the abandoned hospital. But he also said both needed to wait until he checked to see if he still had a job. Just because he was being vague right now doesn't mean he'll continue to do so when they actually go to the hospital. Tim said himself that he wanted to talk about something, he never said he just wanted to drag Jay's rump over there RIGHT NOW DAMMIT. When they actually go he might explain what's going on, but he didn't want to right then and there. Also when Jay said "fine let's go there right now", why did Tim say "no, we need to wait"? Surely if Tim was planning something nefarious he'd just want to get it over with sooner than later?

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CraicIsMighty wrote:
Guys, you're forgetting one important detail. Tim hasn't actually taken Jay to the hospital yet. Tim said they needed to "talk" AND go to the abandoned hospital. But he also said both needed to wait until he checked to see if he still had a job. Just because he was being vague right now doesn't mean he'll continue to do so when they actually go to the hospital. Tim said himself that he wanted to talk about something, he never said he just wanted to drag Jay's rump over there RIGHT NOW DAMMIT. When they actually go he might explain what's going on, but he didn't want to right then and there. Also when Jay said "fine let's go there right now", why did Tim say "no, we need to wait"? Surely if Tim was planning something nefarious he'd just want to get it over with sooner than later?


Perhaps he needs a few days to suspend the sword of Damocles over the shark tank and set up the laser?

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Ooh, one more thing I want to throw out there: this entry shows more evidence of time distortions as well as spacial distortions. We saw this previously in #22 and it could possibly explain how Hoody was able to beat Jay to his car to return his camera in #42-ish. There were other examples of time, rather than space, or both time and space being distorted, but I can't remember all of them...

Here, we can tell that time distortions (at the very least in Slendyland) are happening because 1) Tim goes from soaked to dry in a matter of real-world minutes, and 2) Bruce's body is still fresh, even though he's been dead for a long time.

My point is that this could explain the continuity of #29: either it could be footage from the chestcam from sometime in the past or future (I don't like this theory, as it involves time travel) OR Bruce's blood was preserved and stayed fresh on the rocks because of time distortions.


Also, a general question: I remember that we used to think the basement of doom was Slendy's lair, as Jay was seemingly teleported there. Is that still a possibility? (I know the real basement of doom is no longer accessible, but it could still be relevant.)

EDIT: Speaking of drowning, does anyone remember the TTA video that was severely distorted and looked like it was shot from underwater with the description "Do you feel like you're drowning?" or something like that?

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soulboogaloo wrote:
A lot of people have been talking about the fact that one of the slender sickness symptoms is coughing, and how this could be related to the water that Tim went through in the last entry. I would like to add credence to this by stating that one of Tim's medication allergies is to an anti-biotic, one that is given to people with pneumonia: a disease that is brought about by having moisture in the lungs...

May be a bit out-there...but you guys are surprisingly forgiving of that.

Very Happy


Wow, that's a good point. It would also mean TO was drowning Tim while he was just a child...

CraicIsMighty wrote:
Also when Jay said "fine let's go there right now", why did Tim say "no, we need to wait"? Surely if Tim was planning something nefarious he'd just want to get it over with sooner than later?


That's true. The control that TO has over Tim is probably only subconcious, so Tim doesn't actually know that he'll attack Jay yet.

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TheOperator wrote:
soulboogaloo wrote:
A lot of people have been talking about the fact that one of the slender sickness symptoms is coughing, and how this could be related to the water that Tim went through in the last entry. I would like to add credence to this by stating that one of Tim's medication allergies is to an anti-biotic, one that is given to people with pneumonia: a disease that is brought about by having moisture in the lungs...

May be a bit out-there...but you guys are surprisingly forgiving of that.

Very Happy


Wow, that's a good point. It would also mean TO was drowning Tim while he was just a child...


Water in the lungs doesn't typically cause pneumonia (the "moisture" comes from the inflammatory reaction of our own tissues), but I guess it's possible Operator Water contains all sorts of nasty bacteria?

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I just replayed the entry and noticed one thing...

If you go frame by frame through the part where Tim is lying in the tunnel and TO is visible in the corner, you can notice TO moving slightly, as if swinging left and right or perhaps approaching slowly.

Maybe this is just a conincidence, filming glitch or something, but it seems to me it might as well be intentional, because at first he does not move at all and then he starts to move like this. Or am I trying too hard?

Has TO been seen actually moving ever before?

Also, is TO dragging Tim later on? If so, I suppose he does
move more or less normally after all. The only other explanation would be he uses some kind of a force (sounds overcomplicated to me) or somebody else is dragging Tim. But who could that be?

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Someone earlier said that the Operator's hands resembled flippers, and now with the water and whatnot, could it be that the Operator is some sort of extra dimensional aquatic being? Maybe the Operator is yet another proxie of something even more sinister!

...Korrok.

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kralyk wrote:
Also, is TO dragging Tim later on? If so, I suppose he does
move more or less normally after all. The only other explanation would be he uses some kind of a force (sounds overcomplicated to me) or somebody else is dragging Tim. But who could that be?


I think Tim was being dragged by the Operator, since the shot moves abnormally fast and it seems that he can't fight it.

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