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[VIDEO] Entry 65
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Dreveth
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kralyk wrote:
If you go frame by frame through the part where Tim is lying in the tunnel and TO is visible in the corner, you can notice TO moving slightly, as if swinging left and right or perhaps approaching slowly.

Maybe this is just a conincidence, filming glitch or something, but it seems to me it might as well be intentional, because at first he does not move at all and then he starts to move like this. Or am I trying too hard?


Interesting find, but I doubt it's relevant.

kralyk wrote:
Has TO been seen actually moving ever before?


Yes, he has, in some of the earlier entries and Entry #54.

kralyk wrote:
Also, is TO dragging Tim later on? If so, I suppose he does
move more or less normally after all. The only other explanation would be he uses some kind of a force (sounds overcomplicated to me) or somebody else is dragging Tim. But who could that be?


If not the Operator, then most likely Hoody.

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kralyk wrote:
I just replayed the entry and noticed one thing...

If you go frame by frame through the part where Tim is lying in the tunnel and TO is visible in the corner, you can notice TO moving slightly, as if swinging left and right or perhaps approaching slowly.

Maybe this is just a conincidence, filming glitch or something, but it seems to me it might as well be intentional, because at first he does not move at all and then he starts to move like this. Or am I trying too hard?

Has TO been seen actually moving ever before?

Also, is TO dragging Tim later on? If so, I suppose he does
move more or less normally after all. The only other explanation would be he uses some kind of a force (sounds overcomplicated to me) or somebody else is dragging Tim. But who could that be?


TO used to walk in some of the earlier entries. In entry 4 he strode off screen and in entry 14 he walked into Alex's room in full view of the camera. But I think that was the last time we ever saw him "walk" normally.

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 		One more thing I loved about this entry that I haven't seen anyone else mention yet (mind you, I'm only on page 11):

Remember how Trosephim wanted to show that TO posed a physical threat, but could never figure out how to? So he always ended up coming off as eerie, creepy, and scary, but they could never quite give you a reason to see him as threatening?

Bam. This entry. IMHO, they nailed it.
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tim where are you going? tim why did you leave your mask here?
tim what do you mean you don't remember anything? tim you said you’d never forget me.
tim im giving jay all your personal medical info because you're a fucking liar.
call me


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 		No, seriously. What if the Operator is just a proxy to an even more sinister force in the Dark World? Maybe the Operator IS the Ark, because he can travel from one world to another, and if someone could harness that ability, they'd have a great power.

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Serum wrote:
No, seriously. What if the Operator is just a proxy to an even more sinister force in the Dark World? Maybe the Operator IS the Ark, because he can travel from one world to another, and if someone could harness that ability, they'd have a great power.


If that was the plot twist, wouldn't there need to be more hinting towards it?

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Serum wrote:
No, seriously. What if the Operator is just a proxy to an even more sinister force in the Dark World? Maybe the Operator IS the Ark, because he can travel from one world to another, and if someone could harness that ability, they'd have a great power.


Maybe TIM is the Ark.

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Dreveth wrote:
Serum wrote:
No, seriously. What if the Operator is just a proxy to an even more sinister force in the Dark World? Maybe the Operator IS the Ark, because he can travel from one world to another, and if someone could harness that ability, they'd have a great power.


Maybe TIM is the Ark.


Well, Tim is all knowing and wise...

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Serum wrote:
Dreveth wrote:
Serum wrote:
No, seriously. What if the Operator is just a proxy to an even more sinister force in the Dark World? Maybe the Operator IS the Ark, because he can travel from one world to another, and if someone could harness that ability, they'd have a great power.


Maybe TIM is the Ark.


Well, Tim is all knowing and wise...


And all powerful, don't forget.

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 		In light of this entry, I'm starting to wonder if Display wasn't solely directed at Tim. At the time a lot of people thought it was directed at Jay because of the "YOU ABANDONED HIM" part, but after rewatching Display I'm starting to think otherwise.

1. Display opens with a clip of fish swimming around with the word REMEMBER in the upper right corner- this seems to taunt Tim about whether he remembers being "drowned" or not.

2. Then there's the HE IS SEARCHING/ ALEX IS SEARCHING FOR YOU part. Alex has good reason to be searching for Tim- Alex tried and failed to kill him in the past, and Tim stabbed him and foiled his plans to off Jay and Jessica. The "He is searching" part could refer to Jay looking for Tim after what went down in entry 64.

3. The water in the tunnel at the end seems heavily reminiscent of what happened in this entry.

So what does this all mean? Well it all boils down to, what did TTA mean by the "YOU ABANDONED HIM" part. Originally many of us thought this was TTA reprimanding Jay for leaving Tim in the tunnel with TO. But what if it was Tim himself who abandoned someone? TTA has called Tim a liar several times now. In entry 59 Tim blamed Jay and Alex for all his problems... but what if Alex and Jay's problems originally stemmed from Tim? Maybe Tim and Alex both lived in Rosswood Town when they were little and Tim is the reason TO started hanging around Alex in the first place. Perhaps when they were little Tim abandoned Alex to TO or something, and Alex hitting him with the pipe was revenge? After all, Alex didn't actually physically assault Seth and Brian himself the way he did Alex, he just let TO do his thing. Maybe this is just farfetched, wild rambling but I'm starting to wonder what kind of connection Tim really has to TO.

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 		I think tim wants to go back to the hospital because that is where he woke up after the OD with no memory, and while he was looking around for clues he probably found something he thinks jay needs to be there to see. It is probably something unpleasant or he would have just told Jay, and wouldnt have been so careful with his speech, he sounds like someone trying to figure out how to tell someone a relative is dead. Dead Jessica?

Also I love that we are trying to explain the motivations of an eldrich abomination.

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 		Maybe the "YOU ABANDONED HIM" part was about Tim driving away from Jay? I'm not sure though, since totheark more commonly mentions Jay in the second person.

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Dreveth wrote:
Serum wrote:
Dreveth wrote:
Serum wrote:
No, seriously. What if the Operator is just a proxy to an even more sinister force in the Dark World? Maybe the Operator IS the Ark, because he can travel from one world to another, and if someone could harness that ability, they'd have a great power.


Maybe TIM is the Ark.


Well, Tim is all knowing and wise...


And all powerful, don't forget.


Tim almighty, you're right!

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 		Most men look older when they grow beards. Tim's beard makes him look younger, somehow, and more vulnerable.

I don't believe he intends to pull an Alex. I don't believe that, even if the Operator orders him to pull an Alex, he'll go through with it. I think that, at bottom, Tim is not a killer, and no amount of mind-wooggying by TTA of the Operator can make him one. I don't see shiftiness or duplicity in his interaction with Jay, just physical and emotional exaustion. I'm not saying he couldn't possibly betray Jay, but it's not the vibe i'm getting.

I feel an overwhelming urge to run my fingers through that silky black hair...

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floodgateopen wrote:

If people even can survive there for longer than Tim's dive... He was pretty close to death at least a few times. My question is, why would the Operator go through the trouble of abducting him, torturing him, and returning him to the real world, especially when Tim wouldn't remember the ordeal? Does he need Tim for some reason? Or is he just evil/likes doing it?


The Slendyland is really TO's equivalent to a digestive system. He has a severe craving for Tims, but is sadly Tim-intolerant.

Sometimes I like to imagine TO as Pepe le Pew, hopelessly trying to seduce an unsuspecting Tim... When he is rejected, TO turns to Alex, who gladly embraces him, bringing him corpses and sacrifices like a faithful minion. But TO knows in his heart that he will be thinking of Tim every time he rapes Alex's mind... Tragic, really.

In all seriousness, though, I don't think we're supposed to know, and I think knowing would kind of ruin it. Razz

pravado wrote:
- this place is not some "alternate dimension", it's just teleportation


That doesn't explain Bruce's body or the fact that Tim went from completely soaked to completely dry in an instant. Or the disappearing shed. I think Jay might have been through what Tim went through (someone mentioned the eyes in Return compared to Tim's in the last entry), but I don't think the same thing happens to everyone. I mean, Tim seemed almost disabled after going to the Slendyverse. Other characters seem to teleport seamlessly (see entry #22, #60, and especially the hotel entry.)
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tim where are you going? tim why did you leave your mask here?
tim what do you mean you don't remember anything? tim you said you’d never forget me.
tim im giving jay all your personal medical info because you're a fucking liar.
call me


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Gameboy39 wrote:
I have to give my approval to the idea that Tim was in the hospital at some point in his life, and was hallucinating some terrible event from his past in that room. Having rewatched it a couple of times, that seems to be a very strong argument.

NOW ONTO CRAZED SPECULATION!

If one accepts the theory that the the 'it' that came from behind that door in the room was the Operator... perhaps the asylum was the Operator's private feeding grounds? Mentally ill people go in, the Operator torments them by stalking them (in a place where nobody would believe you if you had seen him, no less) - and when they finally lose their minds completely, he takes them.

That gravy train ended when the hospital burned down of course. How did the blaze begin? Perhaps a patient did it, a patient who later escaped... Tim, perhaps? And with the hospital destroyed, the Operator had no choice but to leave and start feeding elsewhere, by stalking our protagonists, and using intermediaries like Alex to do his dirty work for him.... or maybe the hospital staff were all Oppy's servants from the beginning, and they kept the patients trapped there under a facade of being a legitimate hospital.

How's THAT for nightmare fuel?


^^^THIS. SO MUCH THIS^^^

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