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Animal wrote:
xain wrote:
On the more speculative side
I do believe that Tim used to be a patient at that hospital. I also think that Tim has had contact with OT before Marbles Hornets was being filmed with Alex and the crew and that suppressed those memories.


Depending on who is older, Alex has been haunted since birth too, as seen in enttry 37 or w.e number it was. I think they were both obviously haunted since birth, but saying he knows more I think is a stretch


I've said this before, but Entry 37 is NOT evidence that Alex has been haunted since birth. It is a video of Alex's birthday party with Operator distortion overlaid. All this implies is that TTA somehow got a hold of a home video of his birthday party and then put some creepy stuff on top of it. That's it. Any theory that Alex has been haunted since birth is nothing more than speculation, and given his reactions to the Operator during early entries (Entry 2 comes to mind), poor speculation at that.
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Xicon wrote:
Animal wrote:
xain wrote:
On the more speculative side
I do believe that Tim used to be a patient at that hospital. I also think that Tim has had contact with OT before Marbles Hornets was being filmed with Alex and the crew and that suppressed those memories.


Depending on who is older, Alex has been haunted since birth too, as seen in enttry 37 or w.e number it was. I think they were both obviously haunted since birth, but saying he knows more I think is a stretch


I've said this before, but Entry 37 is NOT evidence that Alex has been haunted since birth. It is a video of Alex's birthday party with Operator distortion overlaid. All this implies is that TTA somehow got a hold of a home video of his birthday party and then put some creepy stuff on top of it. That's it. Any theory that Alex has been haunted since birth is nothing more than speculation, and given his reactions to the Operator during early entries (Entry 2 comes to mind), poor speculation at that.


So, what you are suggesting is that TTA made this video, for lack of a better term, sh*ts and giggles? No offense, but you are analyzing the entry in it's most basic form.

In any communication, you need to consider the pragmatics, or purpose, of the communication. Why did TTA show this to Jay/us. Then we can dig a little deeper and realize that it's not just to "be creepy" TTA has always had a purpose for all his actions, which I think is clear in his cryptic videos. That being said, the logical inference to be made from that video is that he has been stalked since childhood. In game, we now know Tim has most likely been stalked since childhood as well (medical records)so the possibility of Alex being stalked since that time is not unlikely at all. Out of game, we know slendy targets young children. Yes I know they are not the same entity at this point, but they based the mythos off of him so it wouldn't be illogical to follow a similar story.

You may call it "speculation" because they didn't flat out say it, but in any critical thinking you need to make inferences based on the evidence given.

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 		If Tim and Alex were stalked as children yet they did not know each other, what's the connection?


Tim said Brian was the reason he met Alex, I'm wondering if Brian has something deeper to do with this.

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Toadbert wrote:
If Tim and Alex were stalked as children yet they did not know each other, what's the connection?


Tim said Brian was the reason he met Alex, I'm wondering if Brian has something deeper to do with this.


I think he meant it was because of the movie.

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 		In entry 15 I think Tim said he didn't meet Alex until he started working on Marble Hornets, when Alex asked him to be part of the movie since it would be "convenient". But, current Tim doesn't seem to remember meeting Jay for that interview so who knows if Tim was even in the right state of mind at the time and thus maybe lying about some things?

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Omberto wrote:

Spoiler (Rollover to View):
Tim-diana Jones and the Timple of Doom?


I'm more a fan of the original:

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Tim-diana Jones and the Raiders of the Lost Totheark
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Sir, please accept my congratulations. I have only just stopped laughing. You are a genius.

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 		Tim could've remembered the interview, he was just in a rush to get to his appointment.

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 		I'm under the impression that Tim doesn't remember Alex from his childhood, similar to Jay not remembering helping out in Marble Hornets. I think he just doesn't remember.

Masky, on the other hand, might.

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Animal wrote:
I'm under the impression that Tim doesn't remember Alex from his childhood, similar to Jay not remembering helping out in Marble Hornets. I think he just doesn't remember.

Masky, on the other hand, might.


It's possible that Tim repressed the memories.

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Xicon wrote:
I've said this before, but Entry 37 is NOT evidence that Alex has been haunted since birth. It is a video of Alex's birthday party with Operator distortion overlaid. All this implies is that TTA somehow got a hold of a home video of his birthday party and then put some creepy stuff on top of it. That's it. Any theory that Alex has been haunted since birth is nothing more than speculation, and given his reactions to the Operator during early entries (Entry 2 comes to mind), poor speculation at that.


No, I can't buy that. Even if it breaks the fourth wall slightly, it doesn't make sense for that video to be a red herring. We have to accept prima facie that "enttry 37" is at best evidence that the Operator has been influencing Alex (or at least present) since childhood. At worst, it's evidence that the video itself was tainted by the Operator after the fact.

To assume that TTA doctored the footage prior to uploading it adds a secondary subplot to the story for which we have no other evidence.

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 		The Operator symbol over Alex's face I could see being added by totheark. Not the distortion when he blows out the candles though.

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 		Boring medic alert
CygnusVismundCygnus wrote:
Lurker making first post.

I'm a little shocked by everyone freaking out about how many pills Tim took.

As a recovering drug addict, I can assure you, a human being can survive taking far more pills than he did. Considering Tim likely has developed a tolerance to the pills, it's entirely possible that he could survive.

Hell, in the worst parts of my heroin addiction, I would take 16 5mg roxicodones without thinking twice Sevral times a day if need be.p. On top of that, the maximum daily dose of acetaminophen (Tylenol) is 4000mg. Considering Tylenol comes in pills as small as 325mg (and smaller), that alone is over ten pills. And that's just the recommended max; I've taken 8000mg of Tylenol all at once (again, abusing opioid painkillers compounded with acetaminophen).

The point I'm trying to make is that it's not that unreasonable that Tim was fine after taking the pills. I REALLY doubt it was a plot point that will be important. I think it was just to show Tim's desperation, or his ever growing resistance to the effects of the pills.

Finally, when you add in the fact that the pills could be of supernatural origin, it further adds to my conclusion.

I don't know if I'll ever post again, but I just felt I needed to throw this out there so you all can get on to discussing more important things from this epic entry.


I feel I have to say that taking acetaminophen (paracetamol) in excess can be hugely dangerous- it can cause sudden and irreversible liver failure leading to death if the liver isn't transplanted. Basically it's safe in normal doses (it uses something called glutathione to be broken down to something safe). In overdoses glutathione stores are used up and instead it's broken down to something very toxic to the liver. This can happen at surprisingly low doses such as what the OP took (although less commonly). Delighted the OP is here to tell the tale, but felt I had to strike a cautionary note.

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 		This isnt the first time we saw Time take a dangerous amount of pills. I believe in season 1 Jay saw a full bottle of pills and by the next day it was empty.
Not sure what the significance is though.

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Xicon wrote:
I've said this before, but Entry 37 is NOT evidence that Alex has been haunted since birth. It is a video of Alex's birthday party with Operator distortion overlaid. All this implies is that TTA somehow got a hold of a home video of his birthday party and then put some creepy stuff on top of it. That's it. Any theory that Alex has been haunted since birth is nothing more than speculation, and given his reactions to the Operator during early entries (Entry 2 comes to mind), poor speculation at that.


Actually, I have posed a theory several times before that explains why he's scared and why he doesn't know anything about The Operator. I have theorized before that it is possible they were all kids together. Maybe they were connected to that hospital. Something happened that caused the memory loss and then their families moved away except for Tim's family and Jessica's family(Jessica mentioned dreaming of being a child and being chased by an entity).

We know that exposure to The Operator can wipe out large chunks of memory(Jay lost an entire 7 months).

So, yeah. It's possible Alex has been haunted since he was a child. So has Tim. And we can't discount #37. If it's posted on the main MH channel, it's important to the story. :V

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 		And then they all happened to wind up in the same movie production?

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