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[VIDEO] Entry 65
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scooter190
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Gold Knight wrote:
scooter190 wrote:
The screen goes black (fine, I own a GoPro, they do that when they're inactive for too long) but then Tim checks his voicemail... why is there no video to accompany the audio? I know when Tim returned the camera to Jay he said he hadn't looked at the footage but......... maybe he did and even manipulated it a little? The camera would have turned back on if Tim started moving again and it wouldn't have recorded audio if it just died so how did we get that voicemail on there?

The voicemail wasn't part of the chestcam footage. Jay added it in from his phone.

d'oh! for whatever reason I had thought that was Jay leaving a voicemail for Tim... Oops

I noticed something rewatching the video just now... When Tim first goes through the water to get to the... other world, there is a frame that I think may be the interior of that weird house in the woods where Jay wakes up in in Entry #62.

I was thinking that maybe that house exists within the ark, since Jay and Tim were unable to find it in Entry #64. I know there are holes in this theory, especially for those who believe Tim went to the ark, because hoody is implied to be the one who takes Jay to the house and Totheark posted a video with footage from inside the house.

But if TO is just able to transport through time and space and create similar portals to lead others through (like that whole door scenario from Entry #18... I think it was Entry #18 ) then it may be possible that he just took Tim hopping through weird torture portals (for lack of better words), which could explain the changes between day and night, as well as fresh blood on Bruce. It could also explain why that house was not where Tim and Jay remembered it being, because they were perhaps taken there through a portal and accidentally exited through it.

...Sorry I think too much Embarassed

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P.I.T.S.
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 		^ Yeah, as I said, it is from Tim's behavior most likely. They were both most likely patients at this hospital, the Operator most likely being exposed to some kind of radiation that allows him to do stuff that messes with people's minds. Question Who knows?

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xain
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Omberto wrote:


I'm inclined to believe Tim when it comes to the footage being unedited. Personal opinion, yes, but I think the camera died and he left it as is.

But Tim is lying. He knows about The Operator. He knows something that could be helping them. Problem is he isn't telling Jay. Tim's known about The Operator since he was a kid, that alone is something you're want to talk to the OTHER PERSON BEING STALKED BY HIM in hopes of finding something out, or sharing infi


I'm not sure Tim is even lying per say. Whatever did happen was probably damn traumatic and ever since then Tim has probably done his best to forget it. On a more speculative note I think that is how maskys personality came to be more on that note in a second. Tim has done his best to seal off these memories and tried to avoid anything that might make them stir. I don't think Tim remembers everything but the events in the hospital was enough for him to realize that he has to delve into those memories for jay and him to come out alive and that he'll need some there with him to make sense of it all.

back on to masky. I think masky was initially created by Tim to protect him from his memories of the hospital but at this point masky was more of a defense mechanism than anything else. But as Tim got pulled into event related to TO masky begins to evolve because now masky has to protect Tim not only from those memories but those that would make him remember the events and even make him a target of interest for TO again. So masky start taking a far more active role at times lashing out at jay when he's involving Tim too much but also give jay clues. Why because if jay can somehow take care of the situation then Tim will be safe from TO for good and even in jay can't find away to stop TO his work will make him more of a target for TO then Tim.

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FalloutGhoul
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xain wrote:
Omberto wrote:


I'm inclined to believe Tim when it comes to the footage being unedited. Personal opinion, yes, but I think the camera died and he left it as is.

But Tim is lying. He knows about The Operator. He knows something that could be helping them. Problem is he isn't telling Jay. Tim's known about The Operator since he was a kid, that alone is something you're want to talk to the OTHER PERSON BEING STALKED BY HIM in hopes of finding something out, or sharing infi


I'm not sure Tim is even lying per say. Whatever did happen was probably damn traumatic and ever since then Tim has probably done his best to forget it. On a more speculative note I think that is how maskys personality came to be more on that note in a second. Tim has done his best to seal off these memories and tried to avoid anything that might make them stir. I don't think Tim remembers everything but the events in the hospital was enough for him to realize that he has to delve into those memories for jay and him to come out alive and that he'll need some there with him to make sense of it all.

back on to masky. I think masky was initially created by Tim to protect him from his memories of the hospital but at this point masky was more of a defense mechanism than anything else. But as Tim got pulled into event related to TO masky begins to evolve because now masky has to protect Tim not only from those memories but those that would make him remember the events and even make him a target of interest for TO again. So masky start taking a far more active role at times lashing out at jay when he's involving Tim too much but also give jay clues. Why because if jay can somehow take care of the situation then Tim will be safe from TO for good and even in jay can't find away to stop TO his work will make him more of a target for TO then Tim.

This is a pretty good theory, but I thought Hoody was leaving Jay clues.

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xain wrote:
back on to masky. I think masky was initially created by Tim to protect him from his memories of the hospital but at this point masky was more of a defense mechanism than anything else. But as Tim got pulled into event related to TO masky begins to evolve because now masky has to protect Tim not only from those memories but those that would make him remember the events and even make him a target of interest for TO again. So masky start taking a far more active role at times lashing out at jay when he's involving Tim too much but also give jay clues. Why because if jay can somehow take care of the situation then Tim will be safe from TO for good and even in jay can't find away to stop TO his work will make him more of a target for TO then Tim.


From the beginning, I always thought that Tim himself had nothing directly to do with Masky. It makes sense to me that he's put under some kind of mind control when he engages his alternate personality; otherwise he would hardly have motive to act out in this time at this place, from the very beginning in season one. That is, unless I misinterpret your speculation. But as far as I can tell, Masky is either being controlled by Hoody (who seems to have beef with him now, unless the "liar" gimmick refers to anyone else), or in some complex, weird way, the Operator.

Also, I hadn't read the whole thread, so what was the speculation about Tim wants to do with Jay when they get to the hospital? I usually try to read as deep as I can to come up with a conclusion, but the only thing I could come up with is the possibility that Tim was lying about his amnesia in this particular instance and wants to kill Jay to "end it all" or something in an ironic setting. Or he's still being mind controlled and has to lead Jay at the puppeting hands of whomever his "master" is.
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 		I've had a thought. Tim was attacking the message left by Hoodie just before passing out. The next chance he gets, he tells Jay they have to return to the hospital. I think Tim - probably just subconsciously - has decided that their best bet on gaining more info is to get it out of Hoodie, so he's going to try to directly confront him there. He may even pretend to endanger Jay just to get Hoodie to come out, if he's also figured out that Hoodie wants to help Jay. Why he's doing this at the hospital could be because it's the place with the biggest tie to TO, so Hoodie would probably follow them there, while also being a place where you don't get TO riding your ass for standing still for a few seconds(unless important medical records are involved).

Same as before though, it leads back to me believing Entry #66 will present a revelation regarding Hoodie. That's the strongest impression I get, probably from the creators making such a big deal out of Tim being angry about the "He is a LIAR" graffiti.

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FalloutGhoul
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TheOperator wrote:
I've had a thought. Tim was attacking the message left by Hoodie just before passing out. The next chance he gets, he tells Jay they have to return to the hospital. I think Tim - probably just subconsciously - has decided that their best bet on gaining more info is to get it out of Hoodie, so he's going to try to directly confront him there. He may even pretend to endanger Jay just to get Hoodie to come out, if he's also figured out that Hoodie wants to help Jay. Why he's doing this at the hospital could be because it's the place with the biggest tie to TO, so Hoodie would probably follow them there, while also being at a place where you don't get TO riding your ass for standing still for a few seconds(unless important medical records are involved).

Same as before though, it leads back to me believing Entry #66 will present a revelation regarding Hoodie. That's the strongest impression I get, probably from the creators making such a big deal out of Tim being angry about the "He is a LIAR" graffiti.

This sounds like a pretty good theory.

Except that TO has been there before, when both Tim and Brian were supposedly led to their "dooms" by Alex, and Brian was supposedly standing still when TO appeared behind him when leaning against that wall.

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 		It seemed to be a lot more dangerous back then, possibly because of the influence TO had gained over Alex allowing him to appear there easier. Although my main point with that last bit is just that it's a hell of a lot less dangerous than that tunnel right now and Tim probably won't want to go to any part of Rosswood for a while after what happened last time.

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FalloutGhoul
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TheOperator wrote:
It seemed to be a lot more dangerous back then, possibly because of the influence TO had gained over Alex allowing him to appear there easier. Although my main point with that last bit is just that it's a hell of a lot less dangerous than that tunnel right now and Tim probably won't want to go to any part of Rosswood for a while after what happened last time.

Indeed.
But both he and Jay will have to eventually.

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Geneaux486 wrote:
Heh, I'd rather "The Man in Gauze" than "Gimme 20 Dollars".


may be fitting:



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Jordan
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 		Hey everyone,

Sorry, been busy and haven't posted here in awhile.

Well, did anyone else feel that there was something a little bit off about this entry? I can't QUITE put it into words, but it didn't quite work for me. Don't get me wrong, what happened to Tim was shocking and I'm intrested to see where the story goes from here, but something about this entry just didn't click with me.

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Jordan wrote:
...but something about this entry just didn't click with me.


Seeing a guy getting warped into the Operator's dimension of pure chaos is probably why. I'm starting to think that tall fellow isn't from around here...

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Jordan
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Serum wrote:
Jordan wrote:
...but something about this entry just didn't click with me.


Seeing a guy getting warped into the Operator's dimension of pure chaos is probably why. I'm starting to think that tall fellow isn't from around here...


No, it wasn't that, I enjoyed that, something just felt off about the execution of this entry, I just can't put into words why. Technically, it was fantastic, but it was just missing....something.

Maybe it's just me? Smile

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FalloutGhoul
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Jordan wrote:
Serum wrote:
Jordan wrote:
...but something about this entry just didn't click with me.


Seeing a guy getting warped into the Operator's dimension of pure chaos is probably why. I'm starting to think that tall fellow isn't from around here...


No, it wasn't that, I enjoyed that, something just felt off about the execution of this entry, I just can't put into words why. Technically, it was fantastic, but it was just missing....something.

Maybe it's just me? Smile

Well, we have The Operator, Tim's sideburns, warping through space and time, drug overdoses, and the forming of a plan...
Oh yeah!
We're missing the sex scene! Laughing

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Jordan
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FalloutGhoul wrote:
Jordan wrote:
Serum wrote:
Jordan wrote:
...but something about this entry just didn't click with me.


Seeing a guy getting warped into the Operator's dimension of pure chaos is probably why. I'm starting to think that tall fellow isn't from around here...


No, it wasn't that, I enjoyed that, something just felt off about the execution of this entry, I just can't put into words why. Technically, it was fantastic, but it was just missing....something.

Maybe it's just me? Smile

Well, we have The Operator, Tim's sideburns, warping through space and time, drug overdoses, and the forming of a plan...
Oh yeah!
We're missing the sex scene! Laughing


...written by the fan fiction writers? Smile (As a gay man, to all of you fan fiction writers out there: just stop. STOP. STOP. Thank you)

It was all good stuff and technically, it was brilliant, but it just felt...off to me.

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