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[VIDEO] Entry 65
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CygnusVismundCygnus
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Re: Boring medic alert

Parietal Lobectomy wrote:
CygnusVismundCygnus wrote:
Lurker making first post.

I'm a little shocked by everyone freaking out about how many pills Tim took.

As a recovering drug addict, I can assure you, a human being can survive taking far more pills than he did. Considering Tim likely has developed a tolerance to the pills, it's entirely possible that he could survive.

Hell, in the worst parts of my heroin addiction, I would take 16 5mg roxicodones without thinking twice Sevral times a day if need be.p. On top of that, the maximum daily dose of acetaminophen (Tylenol) is 4000mg. Considering Tylenol comes in pills as small as 325mg (and smaller), that alone is over ten pills. And that's just the recommended max; I've taken 8000mg of Tylenol all at once (again, abusing opioid painkillers compounded with acetaminophen).

The point I'm trying to make is that it's not that unreasonable that Tim was fine after taking the pills. I REALLY doubt it was a plot point that will be important. I think it was just to show Tim's desperation, or his ever growing resistance to the effects of the pills.

Finally, when you add in the fact that the pills could be of supernatural origin, it further adds to my conclusion.

I don't know if I'll ever post again, but I just felt I needed to throw this out there so you all can get on to discussing more important things from this epic entry.


I feel I have to say that taking acetaminophen (paracetamol) in excess can be hugely dangerous- it can cause sudden and irreversible liver failure leading to death if the liver isn't transplanted. Basically it's safe in normal doses (it uses something called glutathione to be broken down to something safe). In overdoses glutathione stores are used up and instead it's broken down to something very toxic to the liver. This can happen at surprisingly low doses such as what the OP took (although less commonly). Delighted the OP is here to tell the tale, but felt I had to strike a cautionary note.


Oh don't get me wrong, taking doses of acetaminophen >4g a day can lead to hepatoxicity (liver poisoning, basically).

However, my point is, people shouldn't be questioning how Tim survived taking the amount of pills he took - it's entirely feasible that he survived.

Nothing in my post said that acetaminophen wasn't dangerous in excess - I'm just pointing out how the human body can easily take three times as many pills as Tim did without ill effects.

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Lithp
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My freakout isn't necessarily about Tim's survival being impossible, it's more whether or not he attempted suicide, & whether or not he succeeded, but Death Is Cheap.

Also, shit, I hope recovery is going well for you. I get uneasy when I wonder if I've taken 1 or 2 more pills than I should have for the day.

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Riparia
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TTA's "Operator" video

The parts where Tim is in the water remind me of TTA's "Operator" video where it says "Lakes In Stillnesss will Take Every life of the Night".

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TheSupremeFace
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I think that in the scene when Tim is in that room, struggling to get out (get out of what however, the room?). I think he was having an internal struggle between Tim and the Masky Personality. Reasons:
1 - Constant switch between distortions in audio and clean audio
2 - Tim is shouting "where is it!" (i'm assuming the exit) and other actions make it seem like he's blind, and as theorized before, Tim's Masky personality could be blind (no eye holes in his mask)
3 - The constant shouting of "WHAT DO YOU WANT" could be directed towards the Masky Personality, which in Tim's case, the Masky personality can be seen as either his OPERATOR personality or he could be directing it towards totheark

JUST MEH THEORIZATIONS

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Lithp
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Tim's mask actually does have eyeholes.

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420Goku
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vid reminds me a lot of a robotrip I had once

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wassupbro
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Sorry to completely necro this thread but I think I might know what Tim is going to do. What always creeped me the hell out in this video was that at 2:43, Tim is running through the woods shouting "JAAY, JAAY." Assuming this is the ark, since Tim finds the dead body, this means that Tim still had his sanity at this point. Masky/crazy Tim would not be shouting for Jay.

What sucks for Jay at the moment is that he is most likely in this area with a gunshot wound and probably aware of it. Imagine how much scarier it is to know whats actually happening.

Anyway, since you apparently keep your sanity in the Ark, Tim has a chance to save everyone. How? The pills. If he brings pills and gets sent to the ark, he could take them to give resistance, or even feed them to the people he finds.

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rkmobius
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Does the Operator have total awareness/control over everything in this world? Seems like he doesn't much care what Tim does, even though he brought him there.

And in Entry 80...

Spoiler (Rollover to View):
Now that Jay's probably there, what does that mean for the Operator monitoring/controlling what Jay does, or healing him, or finishing him off? It really did seem like the Operator took Jay away before Alex could break in and finish him off, rather than it happening in concert. TO takes Jay there, and then what? something very different than what happens with Tim? Or does TO just not have as much power?


Tim was able to wander around, not drown, explore Bruce's body, and then escape... unless TO wanted him to do all those things. Also, the whole dragging Tim around while he hysterically screams at the top of his lungs. So how uniform do we think trips to this place are?

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wassupbro
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rkmobius wrote:
Does the Operator have total awareness/control over everything in this world? Seems like he doesn't much care what Tim does, even though he brought him there.

And in Entry 80...

Spoiler (Rollover to View):
Now that Jay's probably there, what does that mean for the Operator monitoring/controlling what Jay does, or healing him, or finishing him off? It really did seem like the Operator took Jay away before Alex could break in and finish him off, rather than it happening in concert. TO takes Jay there, and then what? something very different than what happens with Tim? Or does TO just not have as much power?


Tim was able to wander around, not drown, explore Bruce's body, and then escape... unless TO wanted him to do all those things. Also, the whole dragging Tim around while he hysterically screams at the top of his lungs. So how uniform do we think trips to this place are?


Also worth noting is that when Tim was sent there he wasn't shot or anything, Operator just made him seizure up to get a hold of him. Why couldn't the operator do that to Jay? I think I am going to make an organized chart that shows each character and how Alex took care of them.

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rkmobius
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Is it totally confirmed that Bruce is dead? Obviously having your head bashed in is going to be quite bad, but no one's really checked a pulse. If this place slows things down enough to keep bacteria from rotting a body, shouldn't it also keep people alive? Tim reacted the way anyone would if they saw someone's face completely mauled by a rock. But it's possible he's still alive.

Spoiler (Rollover to View):
How certain can we be that anyone has actually died in MH? Amy... ran out of a second-story window and then who knows. Seth disappeared in a basement with TO, who knows. Jessica was teleported by TO, after getting attacked by him and then much later, having Alex stand up nearby holding a gun, who knows. Brian got dragged away and then who knows. Jay got teleported after getting shot in the abdomen, who knows. Bruce got his face bashed in to some extent, but then TO grabbed him and put him into some kind of stasis.

Bruce is fairly likely dead given how we saw the aftereffects of the attack so much later. But has anyone definitively died?


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Ztakk
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There's nothing that says you keep your sanity while in the Slenderverse. We don't know exactly how long Tim was there, and we don't know how long Jay will be there. For all we know, what we saw on video was the only length of time Tim was in there, and with his already built up resistance to everything Operator, there's a higher chance that he kept his sanity longer than Jay ever would.

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DHawk314
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Actually, I watched the video today. Tim called "Jay!" while still in Rosswood Park. Then he had another seizure, pretty shortly after the one in the tunnel, during which he teleported to the ark, and threw up some blood. Then he gets back to the woods, but doesn't scream for Jay after that.

He gets back to the ark, looks at Bruce's body, and is very startled, but it's not clear if he's still "Sane" Tim at this point. He ends up teleported back to the water, teleported again back to the woods, and then again back to the parking lot, and when he drives away he is definitely not sane (And he's certainly not in the hospital). So I generally imagine the second seizure triggered the Masky state he had throughout the rest of 65 and 67, but I could be wrong, plus the Masky state could be different from how he was in 65 (Although he definitely wakes up with the mask in 67).

Overall I doubt the ark, assuming that's what it is, affects your sanity; if Jay's still there, I think his sanity is likely as good as it was right before he went to the abandoned building with the known murderer and the invisible monster in it (So rock solid!)
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wassupbro
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DHawk314 wrote:
Actually, I watched the video today. Tim called "Jay!" while still in Rosswood Park. Then he had another seizure, pretty shortly after the one in the tunnel, during which he teleported to the ark, and threw up some blood. Then he gets back to the woods, but doesn't scream for Jay after that.

He gets back to the ark, looks at Bruce's body, and is very startled, but it's not clear if he's still "Sane" Tim at this point. He ends up teleported back to the water, teleported again back to the woods, and then again back to the parking lot, and when he drives away he is definitely not sane (And he's certainly not in the hospital). So I generally imagine the second seizure triggered the Masky state he had throughout the rest of 65 and 67, but I could be wrong, plus the Masky state could be different from how he was in 65 (Although he definitely wakes up with the mask in 67).

Overall I doubt the ark, assuming that's what it is, affects your sanity; if Jay's still there, I think his sanity is likely as good as it was right before he went to the abandoned building with the known murderer and the invisible monster in it (So rock solid!)



Thats basically what I said.... so if Tim takes his pills he can avoid his seizure and continue on to do whatever needs to be done. I think that when Tim was running through the woods it was still considered the ark

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DHawk314
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I dunno I think it's always night time in the ark. totheark called it "Where there is no light" and it just sorta suddenly becomes night time when Tim gets there despite it all being the same day. I think the night time parts are the ark but the woods parts are almost definitely just Rosswood, the sun is all out and stuff.
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DHawk314 wrote:
I dunno I think it's always night time in the ark. totheark called it "Where there is no light" and it just sorta suddenly becomes night time when Tim gets there despite it all being the same day. I think the night time parts are the ark but the woods parts are almost definitely just Rosswood, the sun is all out and stuff.


I think "where is no light" just meant light as in not yet answered/discovered.

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