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Pararnormal entities, actors, and Scooby-Doo villians.
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Kilo
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Pararnormal entities, actors, and Scooby-Doo villians.
Also known as the "TTA and SM are manipulative bastards" theory

I really wanted to wait until TTA's response to bring this up, but since I can't sleep (Surprise!), I may as well bring this up now.

OK, so, J mentions that he believes he's involved with something dangerous. And I believe the same thing, J has unwittingly gotten involved with something way bigger than himself.

I guess the first thing I want to talk about is TTA. I really wanted to wait until TTA's response for this thread, because I feel like it could make or break everything I'm about to type.

Ready for this? TTA is its own entity, and is an equal with SM in the scheme of things.

TTA seems to be after something. TTA needs something. That's why he's interacting with J right now. Let's not forget, that J's sole goal in life is to find Alex, but that didn't become his goal until entry 14. Before that, J was just putting up the strange clips he found in Alex's videos. TTA got involved way before J wanted to find Alex. Hell, TTA got involved way before Alex even went crazy, looking at Exit. TTA seems deeply involved with SM, and he's also a little weird. I'm pretty sure TTA gave Alex the anonymous tip to go to the house the first time, and then he encourages him to go back- but in a way that seems more desperate than his previous messages.

SM is after something as well. Again, no one knows what. But the presence of Mask seems to give an indicator that someone is working above/with/below SM. The doll wasn't there the first time (Well, OK, that's not exactly concrete, he could've easily missed it) and now there's some guy wearing something that shares similar features as SM? (SM doesn't not have facial features, just vague silhouettes of where they should be, and the mask is... well, look at it). Something is very obviously up. There is a connection between Mask and SM, I can almost promise you, and neither one is TTA. I can also almost guarantee that Mask is probably a minion of SM. Whether it's of his own will (A cult thing, if you will), some kind of fucked up mind control or what, I have no idea.

The relationship between TTA and SM is some kind of war between the two. They're trying to move against each other, to prevent one from accomplishing some objective. And they do this by employing "players" for them. Look at J and Mask. J went to the house- TTA needed him to find something in the house. J was safe the first time- hell, TTA was there, maybe that's why he was safe- but the second time, Mask was there to run interception for SM. He interfered with J, kept him from finding whatever it was he was supposed to find.

Now, this brings us to Alex. Look at Entry 18. What is there besides momentary audio distortion that indicates SM was present? None of the usual signs. No visual tearing, audio silence, not a damn thing. So SM wasn't even there to keep J from finding what he was supposed to find, just some Scooby-Doo villian wannabe. Which doesn't make sense, when you look at Alex who probably wasn't even trying to find anything, just his mind was slowly unraveling. Something was special about Alex to SM, which is why he took such an interest in him. SM wanted something from him, and possibly got it- which is why Alex dropped everything and left town.

Obviously, it's not perfect, and I'm half expecting TTA's response to basically take a giant shit all over this, but hey.

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gordon_ramsay
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this seems to be a very well thought out and detailed response for someone sleep deprived. lol.

Anyways, In adding to your theory, I do not believe TTA is SM either. In my personal opinion, I would like to think that TTA is working for either an occult group, or a special task force (not necessarily run by the government) that is using J to get to SM and/or his minions. Using Addition as a reference, what I gather is that TTA was using J as bait to draw out a response for SM. TTA knows something is there at the house, but for whatever reason, he is unable to locate it or claim it. TTA was there the first time J went to the house, which makes me believe that he was there for a very similar reason that J was: to find out what happened to Alex and/or gather evidence on the subject.

Now, TTA started to respond to J's videos way back at Entry #9. What I can gather from this is that TTA had been watching the previous entries, and he started to get interested in what J was doing, and he tried to maybe scare him off, not wanting collateral damage in the "investigation?" However, after many attempts and responses, he decided to use J to his advantage, hence Entry #15's response. TTA gives J a clue to look back at Entry #7, so I would gather that there is something there we missed. After Entry #14, they shift to current time, where J has taken initiative and started to do some amateur detective work. From there, TTA seems to give J subtle hints at what he should be doing, or what he should be looking for.



WHEW!! long, but well worth the type.

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Do we really know if SM is definitely following J?

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Zukuss
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Didz wrote:
Do we really know if SM is definitely following J?

As far as I can tell, we don't really know anything. We are purely in the realm of speculation, I think.

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I was gonna say. So we have no idea that SM is after J, so we have no idea if TTA or Masky is working with him.

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i kinda had the TTA vs. SM thought for a while, but no proof so lets just say i agree wit ye Razz

though i would like to add, EFG could just as easily[more likely IMO] be an agent of TTA as an agent of SM..
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Kilo wrote:
I really wanted to wait until TTA's response to bring this up, but since I can't sleep (Surprise!), I may as well bring this up now.

OK, so, J mentions that he believes he's involved with something dangerous. And I believe the same thing, J has unwittingly gotten involved with something way bigger than himself.

I guess the first thing I want to talk about is TTA. I really wanted to wait until TTA's response for this thread, because I feel like it could make or break everything I'm about to type.

Ready for this? TTA is its own entity, and is an equal with SM in the scheme of things.

TTA seems to be after something. TTA needs something. That's why he's interacting with J right now. Let's not forget, that J's sole goal in life is to find Alex, but that didn't become his goal until entry 14. Before that, J was just putting up the strange clips he found in Alex's videos. TTA got involved way before J wanted to find Alex. Hell, TTA got involved way before Alex even went crazy, looking at Exit. TTA seems deeply involved with SM, and he's also a little weird. I'm pretty sure TTA gave Alex the anonymous tip to go to the house the first time, and then he encourages him to go back- but in a way that seems more desperate than his previous messages.

SM is after something as well. Again, no one knows what. But the presence of Mask seems to give an indicator that someone is working above/with/below SM. The doll wasn't there the first time (Well, OK, that's not exactly concrete, he could've easily missed it) and now there's some guy wearing something that shares similar features as SM? (SM doesn't not have facial features, just vague silhouettes of where they should be, and the mask is... well, look at it). Something is very obviously up. There is a connection between Mask and SM, I can almost promise you, and neither one is TTA. I can also almost guarantee that Mask is probably a minion of SM. Whether it's of his own will (A cult thing, if you will), some kind of fucked up mind control or what, I have no idea.

The relationship between TTA and SM is some kind of war between the two. They're trying to move against each other, to prevent one from accomplishing some objective. And they do this by employing "players" for them. Look at J and Mask. J went to the house- TTA needed him to find something in the house. J was safe the first time- hell, TTA was there, maybe that's why he was safe- but the second time, Mask was there to run interception for SM. He interfered with J, kept him from finding whatever it was he was supposed to find.


Jeez, that's what I've been TELLING people since the start. Guess it takes a whole thread to get taken seriously around here. X.X

Your explanation is just more long winded than mine.

Eheh, anyway, it looks like the two of us are stuck here for the night. I'm going to be bothering you guys until I can win that damned eBay bid. Guh.

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TheAtroxious wrote:

Eheh, anyway, it looks like the two of us are stuck here for the night. I'm going to be bothering you guys until I can win that damned eBay bid. Guh.

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I get the feeling that the building in Entry 13 and the climbing wall in Entry 5 are both VERY important.

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Kilo
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To build upon the mythology of "TTA against SM" here. This is something I noticed when I first saw 18 that bothered me, but I guess it took a weekend in Rome and two pub crawls to realize it.

The doll J finds in 18. What's wrong with it?

Answer: The eyes.

Like I already talked about, SM's face is "blurry", he has no distinctive facial features. So why would a doll-SM have eyes, but have no other features? The eyes are significant, because I think it indicates that SM is a creature of sight.

Along a similar vein, TTA seems obsessed with audio. Well, not so much anymore, but he was big on audio there for awhile. If we allow TTA and SM to be "equals" of sort, then maybe TTA is a creature of noise? One to watch, one to listen?

I'm not really comfortable makingthat leap quite yet, because I'm still waiting on TTA's response, but I wanted to get that down before I lost it forever.

Also, Atroxious, you are absolutely right, it takes a thread. I get a little frustrated because it seems like it's impossible to actually get a good discussion going in the trailhead/entry threads.

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Actually, my theory about the eyes is that we (or EFG) are constantly watched by Slenderman
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Kilo wrote:
To build upon the mythology of "TTA against SM" here. This is something I noticed when I first saw 18 that bothered me, but I guess it took a weekend in Rome and two pub crawls to realize it.

The doll J finds in 18. What's wrong with it?

Answer: The eyes.

Like I already talked about, SM's face is "blurry", he has no distinctive facial features. So why would a doll-SM have eyes, but have no other features? The eyes are significant, because I think it indicates that SM is a creature of sight.

Along a similar vein, TTA seems obsessed with audio. Well, not so much anymore, but he was big on audio there for awhile. If we allow TTA and SM to be "equals" of sort, then maybe TTA is a creature of noise? One to watch, one to listen?

I'm not really comfortable makingthat leap quite yet, because I'm still waiting on TTA's response, but I wanted to get that down before I lost it forever.

Also, Atroxious, you are absolutely right, it takes a thread. I get a little frustrated because it seems like it's impossible to actually get a good discussion going in the trailhead/entry threads.

sounds liek the parents in homestuck[mspaintadventures]

one has a nose, one a mouth, one eyes[or shades anyway], the fourth hasn't been seen yet, though i guess he'll have ears
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Hm. I always took the eyeholes as a reference to the fact that maybe Slender Man was supposed to have a vague face shape. One can sort of see it in Entry 6, in how the shadows play across his face. It's interesting. On the other side of that argument, that may have been a fluke because all the other appearances seem to possess a completely blank face, suggesting that maybe the weird shadows in Entry 6 were a fluke.

I'm really not sure on that one.

Of course, the OOG theory is that the doll just came with eyeholes when they bought it. I looked those kinds of dolls up on the internet, and several of the ones I encountered seemed to have pre-made eyeholes.

I've really no idea what to make of the appearance of the doll. The eyehole question is a bit of a puzzle, though.

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Kilo
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Yea, I know what you're talking about. He has the silhouettes for facial features- mostly the eye sockets. It's just that the eyes felt wrong to me, you know? I mean, it couldn't have taken long to dig out buttons from a doll with a knife, you know? Maybe I'm getting into semantics at that point, though.

Of course, it looks like TTA's lack of response is taking a shit all over this, so...

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Drawing from the Yggradsil-and-other-Norse-Mythology aspect of Slender Man [If I remember correctly, there were even posts on SA in the original thread that likened him to the Norse, though that may have just been a particular story when he attacked or some shit], maybe Slender Man has a sort of Well of Knowledge-type dealie with those he doesn't kill.

Become one of me in exchange for something, or one of his servants. Something like that. With every step of the transformation from man-to-slender, one has to give something up. Perhaps the first thing Alex gave up, if that is, indeed, TTA, is his voice?

Thinking back, this doesn't seem likely. TTA does make a single vocal noise during the struggle. After he has his breakdown, he kind of grunts loudly as he lunges again.


Disregard this, I suck cocks.

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