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[TTA] Surveillance
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thecoolyest
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Ok I'm not sure if this will lead anywhere but I was looking at the video and saw the '?'s looked a lot like '2's when they were behind the numbers. So i thought maybe you need to take out the '2's. I did that and also took out the '5's since they are kinda like upside down '2's and i got these numbers

797837774
83768138779

6883768438
7979837777

Now I saw that the second set of numbers had the same amount of numbers in it but the first set didn't. But if i put the first number of the second number onto the back of the first number you get

7978377748
3768138779

6883768438
7979837777

Which gives them all the same numbers. 10. Which is also the same amount of numbers in the description. You could do what ever math magic you can to these numbers. I'm not sure if this will help but it's a start.

PostPosted: Tue Jan 01, 2013 11:40 pm
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mokie
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LBfly wrote:
Yeah. The mystery goes on.
Btw, just read a post on tumblr showing that the person holding the TV might be the Operator. So, "sees now"...
Highly unlikely, I know, but interesting.


From Boros7's color adjustment, it looks like Hoody.

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Xiigen
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So I've read through all the previous posts and lurked a while, and it's about time I put in my two cents.

First off, why would TTA put a red herring into a video? I feel it's on common consensus that TTA is working against TO, and generally with Jay, though I may be wrong. Sure, we haven't decoded everything, and we probably never will, but when in the past has TTA used a red herring.

Also, the shot with the TV being destroyed was really cool, as others have stated, but it seems everyone stopped at that. TTA isn't gonna make a shot like that just for giggles, it must have meaning. The TV symbolizes something: sight [now], Alex, Hoody watching, Jessica, and/or permanence of some sort (I think of Jay and Tim needing to stay together). But I think the important part is that in the end right before the codes, it crumples. Whatever it symbolizes, it is destroyed. We need to flesh this out some more.

As for continue on backwards, I know it's a stretch, but could this be in reference to the code we're so diligently seeking to crack? Or is it a cipher of some sort?

That's all I can currently think of, hope we get this code cracked by the next entry.

PostPosted: Wed Jan 02, 2013 12:07 am
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DemanusFlint
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i don't feel like i'm cracking it anytime tonight but i really feel like the 2/5 approach shows the most promise. as a reminder, the difference between digits when split into pairs is:
Code:
2255552
5222552

252222
225222


PostPosted: Wed Jan 02, 2013 12:28 am
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Lithp
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soulboogaloo wrote:
LBfly wrote:
Love how you say "dudes" like there's just men here.


The internet is gender neutral. I don't mind being called "dude."

Because "dudette" is just insulting.


Seems fairly harmless to me.

I'd say something else, but all of this code shit is soaring straight over my head.

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mokie
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DemanusFlint wrote:
it's really interesting that there are no 0s anywhere. i also think the repetition of pairs makes 2-digit numbers more likely to be a step in the right direction, although i'm not sure exactly how.

e: i feel like this was posted earlier, but as a reminder: there are nine 2-digit combinations appearing in the form:
Code:

A B C D E E F    
C B G H C D A

G C I G F C       
A A C I B I


The frustrating part is that taking the 2-digit combos and playing cryptographic fun with them, I can get "said she is ??? sees" in the middle, but I know it's just the joy of patterns screwing with my head.

PostPosted: Wed Jan 02, 2013 1:24 am
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EmeraldWind
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DemanusFlint wrote:
i don't feel like i'm cracking it anytime tonight but i really feel like the 2/5 approach shows the most promise. as a reminder, the difference between digits when split into pairs is:
Code:
2255552
5222552

252222
225222


I attempted to use the version of those numbers with the negatives included to do Morse Code. Using the negative symbol as character breaks.

It didn't come to anything either... I thought I had something too because at first I thought it said "UCREATE" then I blinked and saw "UOREATE" and the second set is even more random gibberish...

I think the 2 and 5 result is to consistent not to be somehow related to the solution, but I noticed a couple of small things.

The number 1 only appears once as a part of the 13.
The number 2 appears six times; twice as each 24, 27, and 72.
The number 3 appears seven times; once in 13 and the rest as 83.
The number 4 appears twice as a part of 24.
The number 5 appears six times; three times as each 57 and 75.
The number 6 appears three times as a part of 68.
The number 7 appears 14 times; as 27(2), 57(3), 72(2), 75(3), and 79(4).
The number 8 appears 9 times; six times as 83 and three times as 68.
The number 9 appears 4 times as a part of 79.

Weirdly, 1, 4, 6, and 9 all have unique combinations. And the number of times those combinations appear increase as the numbers do. (1 has 1, 4 has 2, 6 has 3, and 9 has 4.)

PostPosted: Wed Jan 02, 2013 1:37 am
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Baras
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I also noticed that if you add the number of fives you get:

2255552 = 4
5222552 = 3

252225 = 2
225222 = 1

Maybe we have things really backwards and the second two lines are first?

The amount of twos come out to

3
4
4
5

Its still nothing I can make sense in though.

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soulboogaloo
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Lithp wrote:
soulboogaloo wrote:
LBfly wrote:
Love how you say "dudes" like there's just men here.


The internet is gender neutral. I don't mind being called "dude."

Because "dudette" is just insulting.


Seems fairly harmless to me.

I'd say something else, but all of this code shit is soaring straight over my head.


I have nothing productive to add, so I'll explain myself. The suffix "ette" means "little." And I know it's a small thing and a lot of people call it petty, but I'd rather just be called "dude" than "little dude" because of my gender.

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Lithp
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soulboogaloo wrote:
Lithp wrote:
soulboogaloo wrote:
LBfly wrote:
Love how you say "dudes" like there's just men here.


The internet is gender neutral. I don't mind being called "dude."

Because "dudette" is just insulting.


Seems fairly harmless to me.

I'd say something else, but all of this code shit is soaring straight over my head.


I have nothing productive to add, so I'll explain myself. The suffix "ette" means "little." And I know it's a small thing and a lot of people call it petty, but I'd rather just be called "dude" than "little dude" because of my gender.


I did not know that, all I knew was that it was usually used to denote "female." But I don't think anyone uses "dudette" in a serious context, anyway.

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Omberto
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Xiigen wrote:
So I've read through all the previous posts and lurked a while, and it's about time I put in my two cents.

First off, why would TTA put a red herring into a video? I feel it's on common consensus that TTA is working against TO, and generally with Jay, though I may be wrong. Sure, we haven't decoded everything, and we probably never will, but when in the past has TTA used a red herring.


Actually, thinking this all over, it would make perfect sense for TTA to be throwing everyone off the real path. We don't really understand his true motivation through all this. It's a nice thought that he COULD be trying to help Jay, but why then the secrecy? Why has he never explained a thing?

I think TTA isn't an ally of Jay or TO. I think he's playing this whole thing, like everyone else, for himself at the end of the day. Jessica is just another pawn on the board he can use to manipulate us away from him, and Jay to feel old guilt and do something irrational. TTA got Jay to enter the forest again by stealing Brian's pills, and he got him to return to the old house in Season 1 where he was attacked by TO and Masky. Now he's gambling g hard in the third act to dupe not just Jay, but us!

TTA is a special kind of mastermind who isn't just trying to fool the hero, but the audience who he knows is watching.

I said it once, I'll say it again: DID ANYONE ELSE NOTICE HOODIE IN THE SPLICED SHOT?! No, and no one is talking about it because TTA has outsmarted everyone here so far into focusing on Jessica and the Numbers

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Lithp
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If Totheark wanted people to ignore him, he wouldn't release response videos like clockwork.

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mokie
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Omberto wrote:
I said it once, I'll say it again: DID ANYONE ELSE NOTICE HOODIE IN THE SPLICED SHOT?! No, and no one is talking about it because TTA has outsmarted everyone here so far into focusing on Jessica and the Numbers


Yes, Hoodie was noticed in the background, and yes, people commented on it earlier in the thread. If you feel there's a deeper meaning to that appearance, by all means start a discussion of it--there's no reason you can't discuss that while others discuss the numbers.

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Arizona
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mokie wrote:
DemanusFlint wrote:
it's really interesting that there are no 0s anywhere. i also think the repetition of pairs makes 2-digit numbers more likely to be a step in the right direction, although i'm not sure exactly how.

e: i feel like this was posted earlier, but as a reminder: there are nine 2-digit combinations appearing in the form:
Code:

A B C D E E F    
C B G H C D A

G C I G F C       
A A C I B I


The frustrating part is that taking the 2-digit combos and playing cryptographic fun with them, I can get "said she is ??? sees" in the middle, but I know it's just the joy of patterns screwing with my head.


Same here. When I tried to see if it was a Caesar cipher, I just rotated the letters I'd assigned, and then this popped up:

Code:
B C D E F F G     
D C H_I_D_E B

H D J H G D         
B B D J C J


Code:
M N O P Q Q R     
O N S_T_O_P M

S O U S R O         
M M O U N U


Unfortunately, fiddling around with the rest of the letters didn't lead me to anything coherent. I think this is just another case of false pattern recognition.

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ieisuk
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This may be a shot in the dark, but the video is called surveillance. Jay posted about a weird dream on Twitter, then TTA posts this. The video description says continue on, and then we get a set of numbers at the end with no determinable pattern to a message. Part of this is the lack of 0s or indication of how to start it. What if the number's at the end represent the fact that there is no 0perator involved in Jay's dream. He knew it had to do with Jessica knowing that Tim attacked him in the hotel when Jessica went missing. Jay is having bad thought and TTA is telling him to carry on because now he sees who he's having to trust when he's put so much of the guilt on himself over the past two years. Possibly the numbers represent different people, but the Operator has always been the 0 with a X and few times with the 0 on the phone keypad which of course calls the operator. Just a thought.

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