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Arizona
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I was thinking that each number was the sum of the values of all the letters that could be used, but there's a virtually infinite way of dividing them up.

Take the number 13, which only appears once. That could be 1+12 (A+L), or 2+11 (B+K), or 6+7 (F+G)... So I'm fairly certain this particular method is a dead end.

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thattallfellow
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With Jay's last tweet in mind, I tried superimposing the alphabet on the sets of number pairs at the end of the video:

79 75 83 27 72 72 24
83 75 68 13 83 27 79
68 83 57 68 24 83
79 79 83 57 75 57

a b c d e f g
h i j k l m n
o p q r s t
u v w x y z

I then noted which pairs corresponded with which sets of letters - with 79 having A, N, U, and V, 75 having B, I, and Y, and so on.

79 ANUV
75 BIY
83 CHLPTW
27 DM
72 EF
24 GS
68 JOR
13 K
57 QXZ

Obviously, what I got is still pretty cryptic. Not sure if this is a dead end or what, but I've been trying to figure this one out since last night and I want to show SOME amount of work.

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Abalone
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Has anyone tried a Vigenère-type decryption? I was hoping to do so his morning, but life got in the way.

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Star Kindler
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^ Yeah, I ran it through with a bunch of different key words last night (things like Jessica, liar, etc...) and it still just came up as gibberish. I'll have to try again later this evening after I finish my errands.
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Eala Dubh Sidhe
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Here's a few thoughts....

Nine seems to be particularly signficant to this code; not only are there just nine side-by-side double-digit combinations, but 0 is unused. Jay hints at 'multiple letters per combination' - the alphabet can be divided up into nine sets, the first eight having three letters and the last set having two.

What, then, if this was the key - that the digits 1 to 9 here refer to a letter from a group (1 = ABC, 2 = DEF ... 9 =YZ), such as they might be dialled on an old rotary-dial telephone... the sort where the unused 0 stands for OPERATOR.

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soulboogaloo
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Eala Dubh Sidhe wrote:
Here's a few thoughts....

Nine seems to be particularly signficant to this code; not only are there just nine side-by-side double-digit combinations, but 0 is unused. Jay hints at 'multiple letters per combination' - the alphabet can be divided up into nine sets, the first eight having three letters and the last set having two.

What, then, if this was the key - that the digits 1 to 9 here refer to a letter from a group (1 = ABC, 2 = DEF ... 9 =YZ), such as they might be dialled on an old rotary-dial telephone... the sort where the unused 0 stands for OPERATOR.


I think that's been tried already.

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Eala Dubh Sidhe
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Seems that train of thought hit a brick wall halfway through the thread.

OK then: what happened when somebody tried subtracting 1 from each individual digit, and then running a conversation in base nine? I assume that's also been done...

I also wonder if there's any significance to the fact that out of the nine double-digit combinations, four of those are mirrored pairs - 72 / 27, and 75 / 57.

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twistedpuppet
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New tweet hint guys. Not all 26 letters are being used. We have to figure out the missing ones. :V

In character hints are awesome. Troy must really be feeling our pain here. :V

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ydna
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soulboogaloo wrote:
I think that's been tried already.

You are right, I did anyway. Although not that way, and this is indeed the most common and simple way to encode multiple letters into single numbers. The biggest problem, as I see it, is that we probably should be dealing with pairs of numbers. Another thing is that I don't feel like the numbers that compose each pair are irrelevant; they should have a reason to be that specific pair and not something else.

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ieisuk
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Eala Dubh Sidhe wrote:
Here's a few thoughts....

Nine seems to be particularly signficant to this code; not only are there just nine side-by-side double-digit combinations, but 0 is unused. Jay hints at 'multiple letters per combination' - the alphabet can be divided up into nine sets, the first eight having three letters and the last set having two.

What, then, if this was the key - that the digits 1 to 9 here refer to a letter from a group (1 = ABC, 2 = DEF ... 9 =YZ), such as they might be dialled on an old rotary-dial telephone... the sort where the unused 0 stands for OPERATOR.


Doesn't work with the hints we've been given. Jay is currently acting as a hint giver by solving it with us. I'm thinking that they over thought a puzzle in which a solve was required and now they are having to coax us in the right direction. The problem is we figured the pairs along almost immediately. know that there are 9 tells us it's not the vertical pairs he's talking about. Thattallfellow I think has the right idea, though his layout doesn't work for some reason, and the one I tried involving going down and right didn't work either. I'm at the point where I need one more definitive clue before I attempt to tackle this again. If someone thinks they can do it, go right ahead, but there is a key they are still holding back that will give us a fighting chance.

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ieisuk
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And that tweet was NOT the clue I needed. Thank you to captain obvious for that piece of info that tells me I can use vowels more than once -_-

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thattallfellow
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Oh, gosh. How many hints are we up to for this puzzle now?

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soulboogaloo
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This might not be super helpful, but has anyone tried doing something with the numbers laid out in groups of nine?

79 75 83 27 72 72 24 83 75
68 13 83 27 79 68 83 57 68
24 83 79 79 83 57 75 57

I wouldn't know what to do with that but it looks like something that hasn't been tried.

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Dreveth
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thattallfellow wrote:
Oh, gosh. How many hints are we up to for this puzzle now?


A little over 9,000.

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karalynnp123
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this is my first post so bare with me

what about using the numbers that translated to "continue on" as the key for these numbers... the third number in the "continue on" set (ie the e at the end of continue) is 57. Could 57 in this other code be "E" as well?

79 75 83 27 72 72 24
83 75 68 13 83 27 79
68 83 57 68 24 83
79 79 83 57 75 57



79 75 83 27 72 72 24
83 75 68 13 83 27 79
68 83 E 68 24 83
79 79 83 E 75 E


I'm not really good at codes but I thought I'd try to help. Sorry if this is stupid or doesn't make sense...


EDIT: I realized that the "continue on" code was in 3 digit codes all starting with the number one. what if we made these other codes into three digit numbers starting with the number one and run them through the same code process as the "continue on" code?

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