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LBfly
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Oxide wrote:
LBfly wrote:
Wait im just not getting something. Why cant the code be scrambled after we decipher it? I mean, the description was backwards. Maybe the text is in another order too.
Of course, first of all we need to SOLVE it...

I'm trying to do this on paper, and I think it's because numbers like 72 and 27 could potentially be the same letters.

Also, I was just thinking, what if numbers with the same digits indicate which numbers represent either one letter or two letters?


Creating a code with more than one possibilities to each pair seems so mean to me. : (
I'm also wondering what is the use of the same digit pairs. Maybe one is a d and one is b, the other is p and q? lol It would be like a mirror.
If the code is in the right order, then 79 must mean A. I dont think there is an english word that starts with a double letter. And "a" is the only letter that makes sense alone. BUT only if the code is already in order.

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 		I've been wracking my brain as well on this one, but I'm about to go to Dinner.... so...

Code:

79 75 83 27 72 72 24
X  X  X  X  X  X  X

83 75 68 13 83 27 79
X  X  X  X  X  X  X
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68 83 57 68 24 83
X  X  X  X  X  X

79 79 83 57 75 57
X  X  X  X  X  X


There's an even amount of numbers in each set,
and a few number pairs repeat.
Maybe a pair corresponds to a letter?

If a pair equals one letter,
there's 26 letters in total.
But there's only 9 unique numbers.
Could each number have multiple letters?

Seems unlikely that all 26 letters of the alphabet are used,
Just need to figure out which ones could be missing...


That's my template I'm using, with the hints.

To my knowledge, the only letters I can think of that double up at the end of a word like that are EE, TT, and I feel 79 might be "I", but since we don't get spaces, it is all smashed together.

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Blank_Zero
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LBfly wrote:
Oxide wrote:
LBfly wrote:
Wait im just not getting something. Why cant the code be scrambled after we decipher it? I mean, the description was backwards. Maybe the text is in another order too.
Of course, first of all we need to SOLVE it...

I'm trying to do this on paper, and I think it's because numbers like 72 and 27 could potentially be the same letters.

Also, I was just thinking, what if numbers with the same digits indicate which numbers represent either one letter or two letters?


Creating a code with more than one possibilities to each pair seems so mean to me. : (
I'm also wondering what is the use of the same digit pairs. Maybe one is a d and one is b, the other is p and q? lol It would be like a mirror.
If the code is in the right order, then 79 must mean A. I dont think there is an english word that starts with a double letter. And "a" is the only letter that makes sense alone. BUT only if the code is already in order.


the letter "i" can also be used alone.

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LBfly
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 		Yeah thank you just noticed that. And it makes more sense if it's I. I think that if the code is in order, 79 MUST be A or I.
72 gotta be any letter that can be dupplicated in a word.

ee, rr, ss, tt, pp, dd, gg, ll, cc, nn, mm

Did i miss something?

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 		"Two of the pairs are mirrors and are grouped together twice. 27-72 and 57-75. Not sure what that could mean yet though. Common letters?"

New tweet. they reaaallyyy want us to solve this.

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 		I don't think each line of numbers means a word, I think they are smashed together, so probably the duplicate numbers (7979,7272) can be the end of a word next to the beginning of a new one.
The only thing we know is that we have to replace those 9 numbers with a letter each, I don't think there will be any more clue than that.
And 83 is most probably a vowel since it's the most repeated number.

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TheManPF wrote:
I don't think each line of numbers means a word, I think they are smashed together, so probably the duplicate numbers (7979,7272) can be the end of a word next to the beginning of a new one.
The only thing we know is that we have to replace those 9 numbers with a letter each, I don't think there will be any more clue than that.
And 83 is most probably a vowel since it's the most repeated number.


Would that then make 83 an E as that's the most commonly used vowel?

I've got nothing on this.
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LBfly wrote:
Yeah thank you just noticed that. And it makes more sense if it's I. I think that if the code is in order, 79 MUST be A or I.
72 gotta be any letter that can be dupplicated in a word.

ee, rr, ss, tt, pp, dd, gg, ll, cc, nn, mm

Did i miss something?


oo

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 		Where the hell is Encyclopedia Brown when you need him!?

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LBfly wrote:
Oxide wrote:
LBfly wrote:
Wait im just not getting something. Why cant the code be scrambled after we decipher it? I mean, the description was backwards. Maybe the text is in another order too.
Of course, first of all we need to SOLVE it...

I'm trying to do this on paper, and I think it's because numbers like 72 and 27 could potentially be the same letters.

Also, I was just thinking, what if numbers with the same digits indicate which numbers represent either one letter or two letters?


Creating a code with more than one possibilities to each pair seems so mean to me. : (
I'm also wondering what is the use of the same digit pairs. Maybe one is a d and one is b, the other is p and q? lol It would be like a mirror.
If the code is in the right order, then 79 must mean A. I dont think there is an english word that starts with a double letter. And "a" is the only letter that makes sense alone. BUT only if the code is already in order.

If it is in order, I wouldn't bar it from being backwards; since the order of the letters would essentially be the same, just in reverse (I wouldn't call that scrambled).

Also, what does Jay mean by "there's only 9 unique numbers"? I can't seem to figure it out.

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Where the hell is Encyclopedia Brown when you need him!?


At the Ark.

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Blank_Zero
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Oxide wrote:
LBfly wrote:
Oxide wrote:
LBfly wrote:
Wait im just not getting something. Why cant the code be scrambled after we decipher it? I mean, the description was backwards. Maybe the text is in another order too.
Of course, first of all we need to SOLVE it...

I'm trying to do this on paper, and I think it's because numbers like 72 and 27 could potentially be the same letters.

Also, I was just thinking, what if numbers with the same digits indicate which numbers represent either one letter or two letters?


Creating a code with more than one possibilities to each pair seems so mean to me. : (
I'm also wondering what is the use of the same digit pairs. Maybe one is a d and one is b, the other is p and q? lol It would be like a mirror.
If the code is in the right order, then 79 must mean A. I dont think there is an english word that starts with a double letter. And "a" is the only letter that makes sense alone. BUT only if the code is already in order.

If it is in order, I wouldn't bar it from being backwards; since the order of the letters would essentially be the same, just in reverse (I wouldn't call that scrambled).

Also, what does Jay mean by "there's only 9 unique numbers"? I can't seem to figure it out.


There's only 9 unique number combinations.

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 		Therea are 26 numbers:

79 75 83 27 72 72 24
83 75 68 13 83 27 79
68 83 57 68 24 83
79 79 83 57 75 57

Without counting the repeated ones, there are 9:

79 75 83 27 72 24 68 13 75

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 		Ah, gotcha. Thanks, Blank_Zero and TheManPF.

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 		E T A O I N S H R

those are the 9 most frequently used letters in order of frequency, descending.

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