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[SheWhoSlaysMonsters]

I saw that the first and last sets of numbers had some of the same numbers
79 75 83 27 72 72 24
79 79 83 57 75 57

and i saw that the second and third sets of numbers have the same thing just that the third set is in reverse.

(original)

83 75 68 13 83 27 79
68 83 57 68 24 83

(Full number reverse)
83 75 68 13 83 27 79
38 42 86 75 38 86

(paired number order reversed)
83 75 68 13 83 27 79
83 24 68 57 83 68

I don't know what this means but it's something right?

[kralyk]

Actually, SheWhoSlaysMonsters, you don't have to reverse anything.

With proper alignment, we get this:

[SheWhoSlaysMonsters]

[Oxide]

Considering Jay says "If a pair equals a letter", I'm going to assume that we get some letters by adding the digits in each pair (rather than 27 = A).
If that's what it is, then the numbers can only be
D, F, I, K, L, N, P
or if the number is two letters:
A, B, C, D, E, F, G, H, I
which is, of course, the first nine letters of the alphabet.

Jay said something about figuring out which letters are missing, but I'm not sure how much help we can get from that.
But these are the letters which won't ever show up using the "add the pairs" method:
J, M, O, Q, R, S, T, U, V, W, X, Y, Z

[paladin181]

9 letters doesn't mean A, B, C, D, E, F, G, H, I necessarily.

It could be any random set of 9 letters.. I think this cypher is a tad nonsensical because according to Jay's clues, it's a bit inconsistent.

[Xman]

I swear if those code says anything along the lines of:

"Always watching."
"Awaiting your arrival."
"See you."
"He lies."
"Time has been wasted."

I'm gonna be ultra pissed.

It better be either: a location to show Jay something important, a location to meet up with someone from totheark, or some kind of reveal or revelation. Otherwise...shit.

[DaturaStramonium]

Jay's commentary, assumed to be a correct clue, of some numbers (not pairs) perhaps translating to multiple letters, I feel, adds the most complexity to the situation. I've been trying to understand certain ways that this could be true while accommodating the severe repetition involved in the code for some hours now, but it's ridiculously hard. If we are to leave the code unaltered, while also allowing singular numbers (and perhaps only certain ones, at that) converting to multiple letters, a secondary intrusion of specification would have to be required, as something like 72 72 would never exist in any English word.

The more I think about it, the more I feel that

79 75 83 27 72 72 24
83 75 68 13 83 27 79

is the actual commentary or question, and

68 83 57 68 24 83
79 79 83 57 75 57

specifies which letter of the possible multiple letters for each corresponding number actually is. We have made little progress for the code when regarding all of the numbers to be part of the statement.

I am then torn, though, as the occurrences of number pairs like 79, 68 and 83 in both lines of code work against this theory, suggesting that they are repeated and commonly use letters or phrases, meaning that all 4 lines of code are in actuality part of the statement. I'll be looking into this further as a cursory translation, as Jay seems to be suggesting, though I may later turn to uses of tables or ciphers. The work is grueling, and so many people here have spent even far more time than I :

Good luck to those who are continuing.

[thattallfellow]

two more of my cents: the fact that there are 26 pairs and 26 letters indicates to me that some sort of key lies there. can't picture them doing that by accident. but then, I really have no idea how to figure it out, if there's actually a key there.

[SheWhoSlaysMonsters]

What if continue on or rather noeunitnoc is the key? Did anyone ever think of that? And if that is the key what kind of coding would use that as a key?

[granitemoth88]

or maybe "permanence" is a key? That seems like a very odd word to use, and somewhat out of place in the context.

[Oxide]

I've tried forward and backward, with adding the pairs and having some pairs be two letters, but nothing works as long as the letters stay in order. Either the letters need unscrambling, or there's another step I'm not doing. I still don't know what significance the "mirrored numbers" thing has, so that might be something.

[Blank_Zero]

So Jay is REALLY hinting hard that we need to solve this.

So let's go over this one hint at a time?

Here's the hints as we got them.

[TheManPF]

[ieisuk]

[Blank_Zero]