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[Afgncaap5]

If it *was* "amended career", I wonder if it'd be referring to Tim's potential job change. I'd keep looking, but there's a lot of potential with those two words.

[theonewhoquestions]

I started doing this, converting the numbers to random letters to use as a base, but then I realized I have terrible short fiction I promised myself I would work on, but I look forward to your solutions.

[Eala Dubh Sidhe]

Another thought: who says the encryption key has to be a written word? Perhaps we're looking at the wrong places for codes and overcomplicating the exercise as a result of trying to make the letters fit but whatever means necessary.

Maybe the clue is visual instead? Eyes have been a running theme in TTA's vids, clues and prompts, so maybe the mirrored 57 - 75 - 57 at the end is E - Y - E. Probably nothing more than a wild guess, but it does seem like we should be looking for significant words or groups of words that can be spelled with as few letters as possible.

[Kimren]

I doubt this will be of any help, mostly because I haven't been keeping up with this decrypting, but here.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AgkDkULgD4CZdHdPLWFNd0VxdDdoTXh2bm5QUlBEMmc
It's a spreadsheet of the numbers. I also copied it again and highlighted each instance of the numbers and recorded how many times they appear (the palindrome numbers appear the same number of times as its reverse. Just thought that was nifty). I figured the spreadsheet would make it easier to do calculations and the sort.
Sorry I'm of no help in actually breaking this code.

[Boros7]

[mokie]

[EmeraldWind]

There seems to be 3 new hints.

One dealing with the mirror pairs. (We have one case of 27-72... and another case with 57-75-57... though he only mentions the 57-75 pairing... This acknowledgement means there is some sort of significance.)

Another pointing out that some letters of the alphabet might not be represented. (This is being overlooked due to the obviousness, but in the spirit of "once you eliminate the impossible" I say there might be reason to look into this. We might be able to eliminate Q for example. Since in the English language Q must be paired with a U most of the time. Similar mention goes to X and Z... not saying we should eliminate them entirely, but to do so and see how the problem changes.)

And we also are told the possibility that the pairs have multiple letters to them. (My first though was to think that some common letter pairs might be represented. IE "TH" could be represented by a single pair. But that doesn't seem likely. There is some other game here. If each number in fact can stand in for more than one letter, then that implies there is some way to determine which letter is out of the ones it can be. Also it should be noted that 13 is a unique instance altogether. Also 24 appears twice and is followed by 83 both times, which implies the same set of letters.)

Now Jay hasn't mentioned this... but the fact the difference between the numbers is either 2 or 5 is somehow significant, but the question is how. I mean it really can't be just a happy accident that a weird pattern like that exists in the numbers.

The mirrored pairing clue is really bugging me though. I'm not sure what to make of it...

[Cooper640]

[EmeraldWind]

[Cooper640]

So I just ran across this one posted in the video comments:

Hoodie says in the end: "OUR ALLY INQUIRE?????? AT LAST. TTA (LOL)" (substitution cipher for each line independently, each pair of digits means 1 letter).

Which, that does work, if you only assign a letter to a pair for each line

[ydna]

Since it seems that palindrome sequences are important, I think we should start approaching the problem in a more graphical way. Maybe it's not really a code, but something like l33t writing. So 83 might be "BE". This is also in agreement with the last twitter clues, that suggested each pair might represent multiple letters.

Anyway, I know it's not quite this, but we should look at different paths.

[mokie]

Just throwing this in, in case anyone has a use for it: the most common 2-letter combinations in English.

[twistedpuppet]

I think you guys are over analyzing this. You shouldn't need spreadsheets for this. Take a look at what I've done below. Do NOT just write this off because it makes sense with what Jay was saying about some of the pairs standing for more than one letter. I may have it slightly wrong. But you guys are going right back in the direction that Jay was trying to steer you away from. Think about it in more simple terms. He also mentioned figuring out what is missing. Start with what I have here and go from there.



7+9 7+5 8+3 2+7 7+2 7+2 2+4
16 12 11 9 9 9 6

A B C D E F G H I J K L M N O P Q R S T U V W X Y Z
1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26

16 12 11 9 9 9 6
p l k i i i f


8+3 7+5 6+8 1+3 8+3 2+7 7+9
11 12 14 4 11 9 16


11 12 14 4 11 9 16
k l n d k i p

[kralyk]

twistedpuppet, I don't think that's the way. By simply adding up digits in the pair, you cannot get value over 9+9=18, which is Q in alphabet if I'm not mistaken. I think it's too early to rule out letters R,S,... and all that follow. I think especially T is quite likely to be in there.

IMHO it will be something else. It still bothers me why there is such a distinctive pattern. The numbers are aligned in a strange way + there are all those pairs... Although you're probably right that the method will probably be rather simple.

[twistedpuppet]

Then let's try this. Jay mentioned specifically, twice, that several number pairs mirrored each other. What if after doing the work to figure out what letters go with what pair, we take the number pairs that mirror each other and work only with those.