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Teedub
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I've been working on this damned code forever, I even had my girlfriend try and help me out. This is ridiculous, man. My brain hurts at this point. I've tried corresponding letters with numbers, I tried doing something like TwistedPuppet has done with adding numbers to convert them. ToTheArk is being very complicated with this puzzle. Maybe decoding the message has something to do with putting all of the numbers in order? Something like you would do when trying to find the median number in math? Lol, I really don't know at this point.

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Xiigen
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Ok. I'm trying my best to participate in this, and I was starting to group together pairs in their order here:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/lv?key=0AgkDkULgD4CZdHdPLWFNd0VxdDdoTXh2bm5QUlBEMmc
when suddenly an idea hit me.

So each pair of numbers all have two letters associated with them excluding 13 as said before, and the way you determine which number to use is by grouping each pair of letters into pairs of pairs.
Code:
Ex. In 79-75 you use the first letter of 79 and the second letter of 75, then later on in 27-79 you would use the first letter of 27 and the second letter of 79!


I'm going to continue grouping them all on that google doc for the time being, I think progress is finally being made.

EDIT: I may have still been asleep when I made this, as this is rather unlikely as it would be extremely hard to make a sentence via this method because of the limitations on letter choice. But this is the only thing I can currently think of to discriminate the letters from their pairs.

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MthsLadeira
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Re: Patterns
One (probably) important pattern in the numbers

Me168 wrote:
MthsLadeira wrote:
Maybe this wil help: the pairs are not any pairs of numbers but a defined sequence. For example, 13, 24, 35, 57, 68, 79, 75... those numbers differ in two units, which may lead to something about their position somewhere (like the keyboard). About 27, 83 and 72, they also differ in one defined quantity, which is 5. Their order may mean the direction you must go, i don't know... Suggestions?



I do like the way you presented the numbers and facts, but are you saying this could help us spell out something, or is it for GPS location for a place. Either way you are so far correct about that fact.


I was thinking about spelling, something to do with the letters on the keyboard or somewhere else. But coordinates/GPS is still a possibility, idk...

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DaturaStramonium
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It seems like the grand majority of people disregard that Jay stated that certain numbers (using this exact word, not pairs) can equate to multiple letters. For the sake of consistent progress, should we flip the coin and go towards the more probable and, in consequence, much less complicated conclusion that he meant pairs instead of numbers here, as most people already have?

Also, as a coordinate system, I've been messing around with the one at the site gratefully given to us and tested by Abalone :http://www.quadibloc.com/crypto/pp010303.htm


_|0123456789
-+----------
0|0123456789
1|1234567890
2|2345678901
3|3456789012
4|4567890123
5|5678901234
6|6789012345
7|7890123456
8|8901234567
9|9012345678

The first two lines of code, using the coordinates to extrapolate the number and then adding them together, become:

6 2 1 9 9 9 6
1 2 4 4 1 9 6 +
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7 4 5 3 0 8 2

The zero is quite disheartening, though I'm only puting out this small amount of the attempts I've done in the possibility that it may inspire someone working with coordinates to work in the right direction.

Perhaps a different grid was used, or a different method of dealing with coordinates altogether. My only gripe with coordinates is that each pair leads to 1 number, somewhat contradictory to the hint given by Jay.

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Abalone
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Hi all,

Don't know if this is going to be helpful, but as I was (STILL) plugging away at this, I was thinking about the mirrored numbers again... which got me thinking about palindromes... which led me to this:



I noticed that there were some commonalities between some of mirrored numbers that are part of the code, but... not in pairs. I don't know if this is at all useful, but I figured I'd post it just in case.

And by the way, as much as this code is driving me nuts, I've had a lot of fun so far working with all of you.

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Candlebeam
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Abalone wrote:
Hi all,

Don't know if this is going to be helpful, but as I was (STILL) plugging away at this, I was thinking about the mirrored numbers again... which got me thinking about palindromes... which led me to this:



I noticed that there were some commonalities between some of mirrored numbers that are part of the code, but... not in pairs. I don't know if this is at all useful, but I figured I'd post it just in case.

And by the way, as much as this code is driving me nuts, I've had a lot of fun so far working with all of you.


I find this really interesting, considering the two mirrored pairs are 27-72 and 57-75

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Kimren
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I had a thought. Maybe Troy's clue about "27-72 and 57-75" was more than just pointing it out. If you actually do the math the message could imply, |27-72|= 45 and |57-75|= 18. Replace those palindrome strings, and then the numbers technically have more than one letter associated to them and there's now 11 numbers to use as a key- 83, 79, 75, 72, 68, 57, 45, 27, 24, 18, and 13. The number strings turn into
Code:
79 75 83 45 72 24
83 75 68 13 83 27 79
68 83 57 68 24 83
79 79 83 18 57

I'm probably just making this decoding process a bigger disaster by pointing this out, but I didn't want to accidentally stumble across the answer and dismiss it because I couldn't figure it out.
Final thought- unless I just suck at seeing coded answers, THEOPERATOR isn't the 11-letter key in either ascending or descending order.
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TakaraShenlon
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Joined: 31 Dec 2012
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Wondering

I decided to go and google some stuff and I found a few things that might help those trying to figure out this code.

http://www.exploratorium.edu/ronh/secret/secret.html
http://www.wikihow.com/Decipher-a-Secret-Code

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Magyk
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Code:
79 75 83 45 72 24
83 75 68 13 83 27 79
68 83 57 68 24 83
79 79 83 18 57


Code:
BE SU RE TO DR IN KM
 OR EO VA LT IN E


Nailed it.

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Me168
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Joined: 05 Jan 2013
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Me and my Gramdpa were discussing this last night, and he mentioned something about "What if he is purposly trying to waste your time trying to solve a puzzle that can't be solved"

I stared at him hard, and said "If thats the truth, I don't know what I would do with myself"

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pokerowan
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Me168 wrote:
Me and my Gramdpa were discussing this last night, and he mentioned something about "What if he is purposly trying to waste your time trying to solve a puzzle that can't be solved"

I stared at him hard, and said "If thats the truth, I don't know what I would do with myself"


Oh, GOD. I've spent six days of my life on this.

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ZargggModerator
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It would be hilarious, but I doubt that's what they're going with here. Razz

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Me168
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Waiting for Jay to post again, I though of this,

What if we said something to point us directly to the anwser, now he thinks we solved it, but we overlooked it,

Thats worse than the puzzle having no anwser

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pravado
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This code is so fucking stupid it's not even funny

It's just a way to take our minds off the fact that they're taking forever with this entry

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elkapo
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pravado wrote:
This code is so fucking stupid it's not even funny

It's just a way to take our minds off the fact that they're taking forever with this entry


I agree.

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