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Lithp
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Xman wrote:
If the solution really is "YOUR ARK" then that would be so dumb. All of this trouble for just another obligatory totheark phrase? I don't buy it.


I'm honestly not getting my hopes up. Just because there's an unusual amount of focus on this code, it doesn't mean there's anything special about it. Even Totheark's most dramatic proclamations--such as "we will wait for you no more" & "today is your last birthday"--rarely, if ever, turn out to be game-changing.

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Foood
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 		Really? I think "YOUR ARK" is kinda big. It's implying that the ark actually belongs to Jay, in some way.

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DHawk314
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 		C'mon guys, it's a short code, it's GONNA be some cryptically short statement anyway. If you think that's gonna disappoint you, I'd advise lowering your expectations now.
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sweetgums
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 		They sent that to Jay, right? While we wait for him to "confirm" that solution or not, we can keep on trying with another method.

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 		yes.
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12innigma
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 		When jay talked about reversing numbers along with the number pairs corresponding to pairs of letters, I decided to look and see the most common pairs of letters, and what they look like flipped.

http://typophile.com/files/most%20common%20digraphs.jpg

These two look like the only ones that are likely,
en - ne
re - er
so 27/72 could be en/ne or re/er or 57/75.

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agnosticAntagonist
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 		I tried to connect the YOUR ARK, HER LIE theory to Jay's tweets here.

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Starting from the ground up:

1). Each pair of numbers is equivalent to one number

By adding the numbers that were aligned vertically, and then adding up the resulting numbers' digits, I received the single number that each pair was accountable for. This single number, in turn --
2). Each single number has multiple equivalent letters
I used QWERTY for this and thus only covered half of it — with marblechemist using the alphabet in tandem to the QWERTY system, each number had an equivalent of two letters to its name. (1=Q in QWERTY, 1=A in the alphabet. Same number, different letters)

3). not all letters are used within the solution
YOUR ARK, HER LIE.
Y O U R A K H E L I
10 unique letters are used.

4). Even with each number having multiple letters, some pairs add up to the same number — thus giving them common letters.
now, we're going to use an inverse of the system marblechemist and I used originally, for reasons that will be explained below.

Reverse the pairs (75-57, 72-27)
Subtract them instead of adding them (18, 45)
add together the resulting digits (1+8, 4+5)
you end up with 9, which would mean that both 27/72 and 57/75 would result in the same letters (O in Qwerty and I in alphabetics, yOur ark, her lIEs). Two pairs, resulting in the same single number, resulting in two common letters.


5). The method for 27-72 and 57-75 are inverse of the rest of the method.
The original method had you:

Add together the pairs (say, 79+83=162)
Add together the resulting digits (1+6+2=9)
take the final number and find its corresponding letter in both QWERTY and the alphabet (9=O in QWERTY and I in alphabetics)

But! since 27-72 and 57-75 are supposed to be a mirror of this method;

Order them inversely (72-27 instead of 27-72)
Subtract them (72-27=45)
Add together the resulting digits (4+5=9)
Assign the resulting number its corresponding letters in QWERTY and alphabetics (9=O in QWERTY, I in alphabetics, yOur ark, her lIes)

If I'm doing this right here then marblechemist/our theory might actually agree with Jay's tweets?
PLEASE: add suggestions and comments! I don't want to be making a fool outta us two here, this is just what I've been trying to piece together after stumbling upon the "YOUR ARK" thing entirely without meaning to!


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DaturaStramonium
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 		I still have strong belief against these answers being correct. If they are, though, then we have all been led on an incredibly sad trek to nowhere, presumably as a means of preoccupying us. 'YOUR ARK - HER LIES" will do absolutely nothing but let Jay learn that Jessica was lying somehow. The term Ark is still completely meaningless, and YOUR ARK will not lead to any extraction more than anything else. At most, something is revealed in the next entry which explains what TTA meant, but the possibilities are seriously lackluster.

I don't think this is the case, though.

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EmeraldWind
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DaturaStramonium wrote:
I still have strong belief against these answers being correct. If they are, though, then we have all been led on an incredibly sad trek to nowhere, presumably as a means of preoccupying us. 'YOUR ARK - HER LIES" will do absolutely nothing but let Jay learn that Jessica was lying somehow. The term Ark is still completely meaningless, and YOUR ARK will not lead to any extraction more than anything else. At most, something is revealed in the next entry which explains what TTA meant, but the possibilities are seriously lackluster.

I don't think this is the case, though.


My problem with this is that J mentioned that the message was probably 26 letters long.

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evanx275h
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 		Honestly, I think that those are the answers, because it'd be too damned lucky to come with an outcome that both spells out to something and sounds like it fits to its corresponding translation (YOUR and HER). And if it is, it's honestly a pretty important plot point. This at least suggests that Jessica has been lying, as well as the fact that the "ark" may not just be one thing, but rather multiple things that different people possess. If Jay has a (or "the") ark, then what does Totheark want with it? Of course there's the whole "what is it" thing that still hasn't been confirmed, but the notion that it's something that is Jay's is a start.

I'm supporting that translation 100%. Even if it didn't seem that important to many people, REGARDLESS of that, it was still a pretty fun hold-off while we wait for Entry #66. Wouldn't it be great if it hit YouTube tomorrow...?

...yeah. That'll happen. Twisted Evil
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MintGreenCoffee
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evanx275h wrote:
Honestly, I think that those are the answers, because it'd be too damned lucky to come with an outcome that both spells out to something and sounds like it fits to its corresponding translation (YOUR and HER). And if it is, it's honestly a pretty important plot point. This at least suggests that Jessica has been lying, as well as the fact that the "ark" may not just be one thing, but rather multiple things that different people possess. If Jay has a (or "the") ark, then what does Totheark want with it? Of course there's the whole "what is it" thing that still hasn't been confirmed, but the notion that it's something that is Jay's is a start.

I'm supporting that translation 100%. Even if it didn't seem that important to many people, REGARDLESS of that, it was still a pretty fun hold-off while we wait for Entry #66. Wouldn't it be great if it hit YouTube tomorrow...?

...yeah. That'll happen. Twisted Evil


What if it was posted tonight? How awesome would that be?

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Lithp
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Foood wrote:
Really? I think "YOUR ARK" is kinda big. It's implying that the ark actually belongs to Jay, in some way.


Even if it does, it doesn't mean it'll amount to everything, given Totheark's rather creative interpretation of the things he says.

"We will wait for you no more!"
*Followed by 40 or so entries waiting for Jay to do shit.*

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Xman
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Lithp wrote:
Even if it does, it doesn't mean it'll amount to everything, given Totheark's rather creative interpretation of the things he says.

"We will wait for you no more!"
*Followed by 40 or so entries waiting for Jay to do shit.*

Hahaha. I got a chuckle out of this. So true. Can't wait till this April to see if it really is going to be Alex's last birthday.

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Foood
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 		But maybe the message will tie into the next entry in a meaningful way (like, TTA writes something on the walls of the hospital that fleshes out the message's meaning more). From a storytelling perspective, it would explain why Jay is paying so much attention to it now.

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SaferSaturnX
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mokie wrote:
SaferSaturnX wrote:
Yes, people need to be working on this and not Morse code.


I'd say people need to stop posting these management posts in which they try to outsource their ideas and get others to put in the work for them. "You guys stop working on something I think is stupid, and work on this thing that I think sounds better, but for which I have nothing helpful to offer."

Nuts to that.

Dude, chill. I've been helping and offering possible solutions/suggestions for solving the code the whole time. I'm just offering my opinion that it doesn't appear to be in Morse code given that that goes against all the hints we've been given (as I read them anyway).

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