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[TTA] Surveillance
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kralyk
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Hazman wrote:

Sorry for the shitty quality I suck at editing pics.

But you can see at 2:06 in Entry #65 and 0:03 in Surveillance, they do look the same.

There I cropped it for you...


The camera angle does seem to be the same, but it also seems like it's a different person standing there, significantly shorter one. Perhaps Jessica or Hoody?

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operated9
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kralyk wrote:
Hazman wrote:

Sorry for the shitty quality I suck at editing pics.

But you can see at 2:06 in Entry #65 and 0:03 in Surveillance, they do look the same.

There I cropped it for you...


The camera angle does seem to be the same, but it also seems like it's a different person standing there, significantly shorter one. Perhaps Jessica or Hoody?


Significantly shorter but with same length legs? I think the operator's head in the left image has simply been burned out by the high contrast (same thing has happened to his shins and feet)

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ledzepfilm
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My question is where the location is. Maybe it's the hospital.

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Hylianhero777
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Great, more riddles. As if this wasn't hard enough, now there are MORE NUMBERS. Great. Just great. I would say focus on these new ones. if we decipher the new code it may be a clue as to how to decipher the old code, or they could be solvable in the exact same way.

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sha22
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Hylianhero777 wrote:
Great, more riddles. As if this wasn't hard enough, now there are MORE NUMBERS. Great. Just great. I would say focus on these new ones. if we decipher the new code it may be a clue as to how to decipher the old code, or they could be solvable in the exact same way.


Seriously it's got to be that both are dependent on each other.... If this is the same style of code (which is clearly is) then we need to combine our knowledge. Maybe it's not what the numbers say, but the numbers themselves.

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kralyk
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operated9 wrote:
kralyk wrote:

The camera angle does seem to be the same, but it also seems like it's a different person standing there, significantly shorter one. Perhaps Jessica or Hoody?


Significantly shorter but with same length legs? I think the operator's head in the left image has simply been burned out by the high contrast (same thing has happened to his shins and feet)

Yeah, it might have been burnt out by the contrast, that's a possibility of course. But the legs don't really seem to be of the same length... The waist of the figure on the left is even with the rail, whereas Slendy's waist is above the rail. It might be another graphical glitch of course... hard to say...

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Rand0mExpl0sive
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Hello, long time lurker, first time poster.

I've edited both of those videos for Surveillance to take place immediately right after that moment in Entry 65 and this is what it shows.



YouTube: Link


One thing of note is that the part on Surveillance seems to be cropped to not take up the whole screen, as there's a light border around the clip when it happens.

(I apologize for the stray frame that managed to get in there from what happens next in Entry 65)

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I have basicaly no idea what the fuck you guys are doing
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Jiime_6
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Cougar Draven wrote:
Jiime_6 wrote:
Hazman wrote:
aidansean wrote:
I'm not sure if this has already been mentioned, but I think the footage of the figure at the end of the corridor at 0:03 is not the footage that came from Entry #65 (at 2:06). Maybe TTA has access to footage that Jay doesn't. (Either Tim didn't give Jay all the footage from the camera or TTA had a separate camera and was at the same place as Tim) or Jay edited the footage he showed us.


*pic*
Sorry for the shitty quality I suck at editing pics.

But you can see at 2:06 in Entry #65 and 0:03 in Surveillance, they do look the same.

I thought the same at the beginning, but the camera movement is actually totally different.


In a series predicated on the concept that there is more to these videos than we can see at the moment, I hardly think that "the camera movement is different" (which it is) debunks in any way the idea that the footage in Surveillance came from the same source as the footage in Entry #65 (which it almost certainly did).

We're only saying that the footage is different, not that it has a different source. I agree that the source is most probably the same, but the footage in Surveillance isn't taken from #65. If it was, it would only mean that TTA can download videos from YouTube.
I personally agree with Rand0mExpl0sive about putting them one after the other.

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DemanusFlint
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some observations that i think should be indisputable, especially assuming that the tweets are meant to put us on the right path rather than mislead:
  • there are three currently unsolved texts related to Surveillance, all of which follow the rules below:
      text A: 79 75 83 27 72 72 24 83 75 68 13 83 27 79 (14 symbols)
      text B: 68 83 57 68 24 83 79 79 83 57 75 57 (12 symbols)
      text C: 95 13 39 03 13 79 35 83 95 31 79 (11 symbols)
  • texts A and B were presented in the video, while C was given in a tweet. C may therefore be originally intended (a key to a cipher, an additional part of the message) or not (further text intended to make solving the puzzle easier).
  • each symbol consists of one two-digit number.
  • so far, there are 14 unique symbols: 03, 13, 24, 27, 31, 35, 39, 57, 68, 72, 75, 79, 83, 95.
  • some symbols are more common than others:
      83 appears 7 times.
      79 appears 6 times.
      13, 57, 68, and 75 appear 3 times.
      24, 27, 72, and 95 appear 2 times.
      03, 31, 35, and 39 appear 1 time.
  • digits never repeat within a symbol, but may be either ascending or descending.
  • the second digit is often at a distance of ±2 from the first; it is always 2, 3, 4, 5, or 6 away (so that digits are never consecutive). in texts A and B, there was always a relationship of ±2 or ±5.
  • the reversal of symbols may be significant, as there are several such pairs present—13/31, 27/72, 57/75.


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Jowayoh
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In behalf of everyone that can't do any decoding I wanted to thank everyone that knows how to for actually doing it. Your efforts are much appreciated, here's a gift

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karalynnp123
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NEW TWEET

"@marblehornets 13, 24, 35, 57, 68, 79 all follow the pattern I noticed earlier. 03 doesn't. Could there be a point where the first number starts from zero?"

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Mehetabel
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DemanusFlint wrote:

  • so far, there are 14 unique symbols: 03, 13, 24, 27, 31, 35, 39, 57, 68, 72, 75, 79, 83, 95.
  • the second digit is often at a distance of ±2 from the first; it is always 2, 3, 4, 5, or 6 away (so that digits are never consecutive). in texts A and B, there was always a relationship of ±2 or ±5.


±2: 13, 24, 31, 35, 57, 68, 75, 79 (8)
±3: 03 (1)
±4: 95 (1)
±5: 27, 72, 83 (3)
±6: 39 (1)
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Zaria
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I've been working on the code that was tweeted. There's a pattern: 4 numbers in between every 9, not counting the zero which has a value of nothing anyway. Not sure if this is anything but you never know.

9513390313793583953179

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sha22
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karalynnp123 wrote:
NEW TWEET

"@marblehornets 13, 24, 35, 57, 68, 79 all follow the pattern I noticed earlier. 03 doesn't. Could there be a point where the first number starts from zero?"


This lets us know that 03 is clearly important and may be some kind of starting point??

HEY JUST NOTICED SOMETHING! 13, 24, 35, 57, 68, 79.... In that order the first digits do 1 2 3 5 6 7 and the second digits go 3 4 5 7 8 9

Where's 46?

THAT'S GOTTA BE IMPORTANT!

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