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America
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Oxide wrote:
sha22 wrote:
karalynnp123 wrote:
NEW TWEET

"@marblehornets 13, 24, 35, 57, 68, 79 all follow the pattern I noticed earlier. 03 doesn't. Could there be a point where the first number starts from zero?"


This lets us know that 03 is clearly important and may be some kind of starting point??

HEY JUST NOTICED SOMETHING! 13, 24, 35, 57, 68, 79.... In that order the first digits do 1 2 3 5 6 7 and the second digits go 3 4 5 7 8 9

Where's 46?

THAT'S GOTTA BE IMPORTANT!

Maybe we're supposed to figure out what the pattern starting from "00" would be, and then we can assign letters from there?


I did some searching and by observing the first digit, we find the number 4 is missing, in mh the number 4 comes up as Alex's birthday and in some videos, slendy dance parties occur at the times 4:04 and 4:41 on april 4th as seen in the youtube vid http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jnk_QFlt1yk
Also in Japan, the number 4 signifies death.

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maddielyne
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So all the numbers fit into one of two patterns, excluding 31, 72, 75 because they have mirrors that do fit. Jay implied that the mirrors mean the same as their reverse in his tweet where he corrected himself with a different number (57 for 75).

The second digit is increased by 1 between numbers, with initial number 02:

(02), 13, 24, 35, (46), 57, 68, 79

The second digit is increased by 2 between numbers, with initial number 03:

03, (15), 27, 39, (43), (55), (67), (79), 83, 95

Now these patterns only increase until the second digit hits 9, then it resets, as seen in the second pattern with all the absent numbers between 39 and 83.

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Toadbert
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Something that probably won't be very important, but I just realized the two clips of Jay and Tim were both of them giving up at something. Jay was telling Alex he was done that day after TO chased him and Tim was tired of reading his lines. Guess it just contrasts the "PERMANENCE" a couple seconds before and nothing else.

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Oxide
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I don't know if this will be of any help, but I made some kind of list.
I haven't had time to check it for anything yet though.
It just follows a pattern of "if you add 12 to 03, then you add 13 to 04" and so on. Sorry if I didn't explain that well, I'm short on time.

Line One
79 75 83 27 72 72 24
83 75 68 13 83 27 79

Line Two
68 83 57 68 24 83
79 79 83 57 75 57

Line Three
95 13 39 03 13 79 35 83 95 31 79

Pattern list
+09: 00 09 18 27 36 45 54 63 72 81
+10: 01 11 22 33 44 55 66 77 88 99
+11: 02 13 24 35 46 57 68 79 90
+12: 03 15 27 39 51 63 75 87 99
+13: 04 17 20 33 46 59 72 85 98
+14: 05 19 33 47 61 75 89
+15: 06 21 36 56 71 86
+16: 07 29 39 55 71 87
+17: 08 25 42 59 76 93
+18: 09 27 45 63 81 99
+19: 00 19 38 57 76 95


Edit: I made a mistake in +12 and fixed it, but it doesn't fit Jay's version now. There's some strange "resetting" point if the code follows this pattern.

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Camero
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I'm not following the numbers game here, but was Jay saying earlier that the numbers all simply corresponded to each of the 26 letters of the alphabet? In that case, the message could simply be spelled out by the "missing" letters and not actually be in the code. Not sure if this helps, ignore otherwise.

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Blank_Zero
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Camero wrote:
I'm not following the numbers game here, but was Jay saying earlier that the numbers all simply corresponded to each of the 26 letters of the alphabet? In that case, the message could simply be spelled out by the "missing" letters and not actually be in the code. Not sure if this helps, ignore otherwise.


Maybe

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wred16
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Anyone tried to just solve it as a simple substitution cipher?

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DemanusFlint
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you know, it's so crazy that it just might work... you're a loose cannon, simmons, but you know your ciphers, goddammit.

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aarvens
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I've been running through it as a substitution cypher.

And there's something we can assume:

If we follow the question/answer pattern of the video for texts A and B, then more than likely, the first two digits must be W.

This is likely followed by H then.

Unless, the code is backwards, hinted at by noeunitnoc, then the last digit of text A is more than likely W, followed by H.

These other cypher ideas, like the Nihilist and Playfair, are so interesting, but seem so far off in this context. I'm sticking to substitution, with a key, or MAYBE a transposition.

Now on to text C, which may not be of any help until text D, or whatever may, comes next.

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wred16
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Theres a good chance A doesnt start with W forwards or backwards, because it starts and ends with 79, and there are double 79s (7979) in B. There could be a space between them, but i cant think of a way this would work with the same letter (83) coming right before and after them.

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Blank_Zero
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aarvens wrote:
I've been running through it as a substitution cypher.

And there's something we can assume:

If we follow the question/answer pattern of the video for texts A and B, then more than likely, the first two digits must be W.

This is likely followed by H then.

Unless, the code is backwards, hinted at by noeunitnoc, then the last digit of text A is more than likely W, followed by H.

These other cypher ideas, like the Nihilist and Playfair, are so interesting, but seem so far off in this context. I'm sticking to substitution, with a key, or MAYBE a transposition.

Now on to text C, which may not be of any help until text D, or whatever may, comes next.


If it is, in fact, a question and answer, if we can solve a bit of it at a time, we can start filling in the blanks all over the place slowly by surely.

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Djeezna
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Likely not relevant but the sounds heard during the codes are as follow:

First is a B5 interval (the two notes individually being B and F#)
Then is a F#5 interval (the two notes individually being the same F# as before and a C#)

The progression between the 2 intervals is another fifth. So fifths everywhere.

The only pairs that are separated by 5 are 27, its mirror 72 and 83. All being part of the second pattern of course.

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aarvens
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Theres a good chance A doesnt start with W forwards or backwards, because it starts and ends with 79, and there are double 79s (7979) in B. There could be a space between them, but i cant think of a way this would work with the same letter (83) coming right before and after them.








It could be HOW then. But I think you're dismissing much too quickly.

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wred16
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maybe "did". B ends with 57 75 57

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SaferSaturnX
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For the question of the ciphertext being a substitution cipher, the easy route would be to look at "57 75 57". Also, assuming we have to put in the spaces ourselves, we need to take a look at "83 79 79 83". It certainly doesn't cover everything, but here are the only possibilities I could come up with for those sets of numerical pairs being words in a simple substitution cipher:

"57 75 57" could be:
dad, did, dud, ere, eve, gag, gig, hah, heh, huh, mom, non, pep, bob, pop, wow, yay

"83 79 79 83" could be:
sees, deed, noon, peep

This isn't an exhaustive list, but there were some that it obviously couldn't be (i.e. "poop"). Also, it's possible that there is a break between any of those pairs of numbers. Finally, I think it's important not to forget Jay's hint: "Two of the pairs are mirrors and are grouped together twice. 27-72 and 57-75. Not sure what that could mean yet though. Common letters?". For "57 75 57" to appear might mean common letters, but there may be something more there with the fact that it's a 3 character long string of mirrored pairs.

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