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George G
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 		bullshit theory that is going to be proven wrong in about 5 minutes:

Let's write down Jay's pattern:

13 24 35 46 57 68 79 83 95

Imagine correspondences:

... 13__24__35__46__57__68__79__83__95 ...
... n___o___p___q___r___s____t___u___v ...
... a___b___c___d___e___f____g___h___i ...

meaning, that, say, a number 57 could be either R or E. If you assume this, sequence B:

68, 83, 57, 68, 24, 83, 79, 79, 83, 57, 75, 57

corresponds to: (s/f)(u/h)(r/e)(s/f)(o/b)(u/n)(t/g)(t/g)(u/h)(r/e)(?/?)(r/e)
which, if you pick the letters creatively, becomes: SHES OUT THE?E = "she's out there". Neat, huh?

Do not get your hopes up: I'm 90% sure this is a false positive. Too many arbitrarily selected variables. But interesting.
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America
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Rodion Romanovich wrote:
maddielyne wrote:
So all the numbers fit into one of two patterns, excluding 31, 72, 75 because they have mirrors that do fit. Jay implied that the mirrors mean the same as their reverse in his tweet where he corrected himself with a different number (57 for 75).

The second digit is increased by 1 between numbers, with initial number 02:

(02), 13, 24, 35, (46), 57, 68, 79

The second digit is increased by 2 between numbers, with initial number 03:

03, (15), 27, 39, (43), (55), (67), (79), 83, 95

Now these patterns only increase until the second digit hits 9, then it resets, as seen in the second pattern with all the absent numbers between 39 and 83.


Quoting this post again since Jay's latest tweets pretty much confirms that these two patterns are what we have to work with.

EDIT: Actually, no. Jay seems to go from one pattern to the other at 79 (which belongs to both). Now why would he do that?? I'm beginning to understand why all other characters hate you, Jay.


Maybe once the second and/or first diget hits 9, the pattern resets and you start using the +12 pattern (or +11 pattern depending on which one just hit 79).

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Oxide
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karalynnp123 wrote:
"@marblehornets Judging by the 83-95 and 27-39 pattern, what comes after 03 could be 15. Second number plus two."

Keep going, Jay; I want to see where you're going with this.

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America
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George G wrote:
bullshit theory that is going to be proven wrong in about 5 minutes:

Let's write down Jay's pattern:

13 24 35 46 57 68 79 83 95

Imagine correspondences:

... 13__24__35__46__57__68__79__83__95 ...
... n___o___p___q___r___s____t___u___v ...
... a___b___c___d___e___f____g___h___i ...

meaning, that, say, a number 57 could be either R or E. If you assume this, sequence B:

68, 83, 57, 68, 24, 83, 79, 79, 83, 57, 75, 57

corresponds to: (s/f)(u/h)(r/e)(s/f)(o/b)(u/n)(t/g)(t/g)(u/h)(r/e)(?/?)(r/e)
which, if you pick the letters creatively, becomes: SHES OUT THE?E = "she's out there". Neat, huh?

Do not get your hopes up: I'm 90% sure this is a false positive. Too many arbitrarily selected variables. But interesting.

You made 75 (?/?) when it is a mirror of 57 which is (r/e). using r would complete SHES OUT THERE, She being Jessica?

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Rodion Romanovich
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Oxide wrote:
If not, then where does a number like "31" fit into a pattern, if every pattern can't have a second digit lower than 3?


31 would fit in as a mirror of 13, like 72-27 and 75-57.

Either Jay is being really confusing right now, or we're missing something. The pattern he seems to be suggesting (+11 until 79, then +12) wouldn't include all numbers, unless there's a way to go from 95 to 03.

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Rodion Romanovich
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America wrote:
George G wrote:
bullshit theory that is going to be proven wrong in about 5 minutes:

Let's write down Jay's pattern:

13 24 35 46 57 68 79 83 95

Imagine correspondences:

... 13__24__35__46__57__68__79__83__95 ...
... n___o___p___q___r___s____t___u___v ...
... a___b___c___d___e___f____g___h___i ...

meaning, that, say, a number 57 could be either R or E. If you assume this, sequence B:

68, 83, 57, 68, 24, 83, 79, 79, 83, 57, 75, 57

corresponds to: (s/f)(u/h)(r/e)(s/f)(o/b)(u/n)(t/g)(t/g)(u/h)(r/e)(?/?)(r/e)
which, if you pick the letters creatively, becomes: SHES OUT THE?E = "she's out there". Neat, huh?

Do not get your hopes up: I'm 90% sure this is a false positive. Too many arbitrarily selected variables. But interesting.

You made 75 (?/?) when it is a mirror of 57 which is (r/e). using r would complete SHES OUT THERE, She being Jessica?


Just did this to the numbers from Twitter, and got IAMWATCHING.

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EmeraldWind
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America wrote:
George G wrote:
bullshit theory that is going to be proven wrong in about 5 minutes:

Let's write down Jay's pattern:

13 24 35 46 57 68 79 83 95

Imagine correspondences:

... 13__24__35__46__57__68__79__83__95 ...
... n___o___p___q___r___s____t___u___v ...
... a___b___c___d___e___f____g___h___i ...

meaning, that, say, a number 57 could be either R or E. If you assume this, sequence B:

68, 83, 57, 68, 24, 83, 79, 79, 83, 57, 75, 57

corresponds to: (s/f)(u/h)(r/e)(s/f)(o/b)(u/n)(t/g)(t/g)(u/h)(r/e)(?/?)(r/e)
which, if you pick the letters creatively, becomes: SHES OUT THE?E = "she's out there". Neat, huh?

Do not get your hopes up: I'm 90% sure this is a false positive. Too many arbitrarily selected variables. But interesting.

You made 75 (?/?) when it is a mirror of 57 which is (r/e). using r would complete SHES OUT THERE, She being Jessica?


That does fit in with the clue that the mirrored numbers are just flipped versions of numbers in the pattern.

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Rodion Romanovich
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Rodion Romanovich wrote:
America wrote:
George G wrote:
bullshit theory that is going to be proven wrong in about 5 minutes:

Let's write down Jay's pattern:

13 24 35 46 57 68 79 83 95

Imagine correspondences:

... 13__24__35__46__57__68__79__83__95 ...
... n___o___p___q___r___s____t___u___v ...
... a___b___c___d___e___f____g___h___i ...

meaning, that, say, a number 57 could be either R or E. If you assume this, sequence B:

68, 83, 57, 68, 24, 83, 79, 79, 83, 57, 75, 57

corresponds to: (s/f)(u/h)(r/e)(s/f)(o/b)(u/n)(t/g)(t/g)(u/h)(r/e)(?/?)(r/e)
which, if you pick the letters creatively, becomes: SHES OUT THE?E = "she's out there". Neat, huh?

Do not get your hopes up: I'm 90% sure this is a false positive. Too many arbitrarily selected variables. But interesting.

You made 75 (?/?) when it is a mirror of 57 which is (r/e). using r would complete SHES OUT THERE, She being Jessica?


Just did this to the numbers from Twitter, and got IAMWATCHING.


... and the first could be TRULYYOURFAULT.

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America
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Rodion Romanovich wrote:
America wrote:
George G wrote:
bullshit theory that is going to be proven wrong in about 5 minutes:

Let's write down Jay's pattern:

13 24 35 46 57 68 79 83 95

Imagine correspondences:

... 13__24__35__46__57__68__79__83__95 ...
... n___o___p___q___r___s____t___u___v ...
... a___b___c___d___e___f____g___h___i ...

meaning, that, say, a number 57 could be either R or E. If you assume this, sequence B:

68, 83, 57, 68, 24, 83, 79, 79, 83, 57, 75, 57

corresponds to: (s/f)(u/h)(r/e)(s/f)(o/b)(u/n)(t/g)(t/g)(u/h)(r/e)(?/?)(r/e)
which, if you pick the letters creatively, becomes: SHES OUT THE?E = "she's out there". Neat, huh?

Do not get your hopes up: I'm 90% sure this is a false positive. Too many arbitrarily selected variables. But interesting.

You made 75 (?/?) when it is a mirror of 57 which is (r/e). using r would complete SHES OUT THERE, She being Jessica?


Just did this to the numbers from Twitter, and got IAMWATCHING.

I think we are on to something great job guys! I cant figure out The first code though, we need to use the +12 pattern with that one I think. Can you show how you got the letters for the tweet?
Never mind I see how L and Y wrap around

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karalynnp123
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 		"@marblehornets All that being said, the full order I've figured out is 13, 24, 35, 46, 57, 68, 79, 83, 95, 03, 15, 27, 39."

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Rodion Romanovich
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 		13 (A/N)
24 (B/O)
35 (C/P)
46 (D/Q)
57 (E/R)
68 (F/S)
79 (G/T)
83 (H/U)
95 (I/V)
03 (J/W)
15 (K/X)
27 (L/Y)
39 (M/Z)

79 75 83 27 72 72 24 83 75 68 13 83 27 79
(g/t) (e/r) (h/u) (l/y) (l/y) /l/y) (b/o) (h/u) (e/r) (f/s) (a/n) (h/u) (l/y) (g/t)

trulyyourfault

I don't know if there's a way to decide which of the two letters to choose, I just tried to find words.

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Rand0mExpl0sive
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 		Soooooo.... puzzle solved?

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America
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 		So thanks to Rodion Romanovich, and George G, and everyone else working on this, I think we can say Number set 1, number set 2, and the tweet respectivly translate to:

Truly Your Fualt
She's Out There
I Am Watching

So assuming "she" is Jessica, can we say Jessica isn't or isn't a part of TTA and is not hoody?

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Oxide
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Rodion Romanovich wrote:
13 (A/N)
24 (B/O)
35 (C/P)
46 (D/Q)
57 (E/R)
68 (F/S)
79 (G/T)
83 (H/U)
95 (I/V)
03 (J/W)
15 (K/X)
27 (L/Y)
39 (M/Z)

79 75 83 27 72 72 24 83 75 68 13 83 27 79
(g/t) (e/r) (h/u) (l/y) (l/y) /l/y) (b/o) (h/u) (e/r) (f/s) (a/n) (h/u) (l/y) (g/t)

trulyyourfault

I don't know if there's a way to decide which of the two letters to choose, I just tried to find words.

I always thought that you just needed to choose which of the 2 letters works, I just couldn't figure out how to get the letters (plus, I was doing it in a slightly more complex way before, days ago).
I don't want to get my hopes up, but it looks like that is how you solve it.

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 		This is actually the most consistent codebreaking method. I actually think that this may be the answer! Great job, guys!

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