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[LOCKED] EverymanHYBRID 2013
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theorizingisfun
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Edit 2: Does Evan say, "He's embarrassed of me?" when he walks in the door?


He said: "he's embarrassing me."



(sorry, I'm new and don't know how to reply to an individual person.)

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WestRoadSal
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Why are we saying it's Unhabited Evan when he's clearly wearing Habit's
hawaiian shirt that he was wearing with the fedora?

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theorizingisfun
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WestRoadSal wrote:
Why are we saying it's Unhabited Evan when he's clearly wearing Habit's
hawaiian shirt that he was wearing with the fedora?


He said in the video: " I wasn't even wearing this. He changed me. He put it on me."

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Dyvya
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theorizingisfun wrote:
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Edit 2: Does Evan say, "He's embarrassed of me?" when he walks in the door?


He said: "he's embarrassing me."



(sorry, I'm new and don't know how to reply to an individual person.)


Smile Thank you! Sometime's Evan's growls are a little hard for me to make out. And as far as I know, you responded just fine. Smile

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Toxicxhazard
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I believe we had a video of when Jeff and Vin get in a car crash and supposedly die.

Maybe that actually happened?

We also had a video of Jeff taking a butt load of pills, most likely resulting in death.

Maybe that happened too.

Now Evan dies to the rake and comes back.

Anyone else seeing a trend here?

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Lithp
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I am most upset that we didn't see the Rake fight. Obviously, it would have been too hard to do the intestines thing, but we could have at least seen some of it.

I think the zoom noise was included to make us paranoid of Vin. Who, by the way, still seems to be in denial of the fact that HABIT controls Evan, for some odd reason.

Uh...who the Hell posted this one? All lowercase doesn't seem like HABIT, but if I were in Vin's & Evan's positions, I wouldn't devote time to thinking up a witty title. Plus, there's no tag. But it's clearly taken from Vin's camera, not a hidden one.

ChildOfAtom wrote:
What do you feel is out of date? Other than the line about not having seen any evidence for Alex reiterating (which we may have gotten in Next) everything seems fine. If anything the new video adds more evidence.


Why is this video taken as strong evidence for it? It was already stated that HABIT's hosts could survive extreme bodily injury.

Then there's the discrepancy between the "respawn theory" & the "repeated cycle" theory. If the characters always respawn exactly the same after dying, then how are they supposed to continue this cycle, where they apparently all die & are reborn as different people?

Why is there a decades-long gap between the last known "cycle"?

Why do we assume that characters died in scenes where we don't know their fates, or even when they occurred? Bearing in mind that amnesia & time/space travel are all staples of Slenderseries.

What is the Candleverse? All we knew about it was that it was some place where everyone talked about the events with HABIT. Now the best candidate for it is Corenthal's "sanctuary," which does not require dying to access.

Most of what I call evidence is the odd mentions to "cycles" & "iterations," which, well, are just odd mentions.

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Malckeor
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TheOperator wrote:
I think Evan's regeneration is a result of him now being "the perfect shell" HABIT was looking for.

Lithp wrote:
TheOperator wrote:
How else can you explain the patients from decades ago who were not only tied to Corenthal and HABIT but had the same names as the present day main characters?


Time travel shenanigans.


You know, I didn't like this theory either but it's a helluva lot better than re-iteration, so I'll believe it over that.
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Characters endlessly coming back to life=drama killer. Especially in a horror.


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Actually, if the Iteration Theory turns out to be true (which it most likely will; there's cold, hard, undeniable evidence towards it), it wouldn't be "immortal characters coming back to life." They're being kept alive by these monsters, cursed to live through the pain and suffering caused by said monsters again and again. A fate truly worse than death. The "drama" doesn't leave, as "death" would mean our characters have failed to escape the cycle once again.


Anyway, I don't think this quite proves the Iteration Theory. It's pretty obvious that HABIT simply re-possessed Evan and used his demonic powers to mend the wounds from the Rake, judging by the clothing and hat. The Iteration Theory is that whole thing regarding reincarnation, correct? Evan wasn't reincarnated; merely healed.

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Lithp wrote:

Why is this video taken as strong evidence for it? It was already stated that HABIT's hosts could survive extreme bodily injury.


While he's in control, yes. I always took that more as an indication that his spirit could continue to animate the flesh through extreme pain, not that the body was imbued with some supernatural ability.

Lithp wrote:
Then there's the discrepancy between the "respawn theory" & the "repeated cycle" theory.


I think one is the overall cycle of the game, and the other is Slendy fucking around.

Lithp wrote:
Why is there a decades-long gap between the last known "cycle"?


Just a single decade. The last of the MT4 "succumbed" in 1981, most of the cast were born in 1991. There could be any number of reasons for the delay. It's a supernatural story... could be planetary alignments, or some portal that opens on a regular schedule, or some spell that they have to wait to be cast giving them access... who the hell knows.

Lithp wrote:
What is the Candleverse? All we knew about it was that it was some place where everyone talked about the events with HABIT. Now the best candidate for it is Corenthal's "sanctuary," which does not require dying to access.


The Candleverse is where they go to await respawning. I think Corenthal's sanctuary is a pocket inside the Baldpate spatial nexus.

Lithp wrote:
Most of what I call evidence is the odd mentions to "cycles" & "iterations," which, well, are just odd mentions.


You call it "odd mentions," I call it clues...

It's not a perfect theory, and you are correct that there are two branches of it that sort of get conflated, but I haven't seen anything that better explains all the clues. /opinion

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Lithp
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While he's in control, yes. I always took that more as an indication that his spirit could continue to animate the flesh through extreme pain, not that the body was imbued with some supernatural ability.


Kind of how I took it as well, but as CYSTW also said that he could make his hosts supernaturally strong & able to keep fighting through otherwise fatal wounds, I don't think it's much of a stretch.

On a tangent, I wonder if that means that the Rake is his perfect host--since it appears to have survived having its head cut off--or if the Rake is actually uninHABITable, & that's just a natural ability that it has.

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I think one is the overall cycle of the game, and the other is Slendy fucking around.


Could be, but it's still erroneous to use the supposed deaths AND the the Fairmount/Candleverse stuff as evidence, because whatever they are, they appear to be 2 distinct processes.

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You call it "odd mentions," I call it clues...


By "odd mentions," I mean occasional usage of jargon without explaining its significance. They could indeed be clues. They could also be some kind of weird metaphor. I don't really know.

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I haven't seen anything that better explains all the clues. /opinion


It is true that there are some things that the theory explains that "time travel shenanigans" can't. Every now & again I try to work out a specific chronology, but too many questions arise.

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Unfamous
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Evan: "I had its head in my hands, and you know what it did? It gnashed at me. It kept talking, and its body kept fucking moving"

Might have misheard this somewhat but Im almost positive he said The Rake was talking to him. Evan knows something if the Rake is whispering secrets, and knowing secrets that the Rake tells you never works out well. Anybody remember what Alex said to Vinny on the car ride to Jessie's funeral? The Rake talked to him and he ended up in a garbage bag (assumably)

EDIT: Random Trees

The line "he's embarressing me" refers to Evans vow to kill himself and Habit violating his promise to himself, or at least Evan believing that Habit is responsible for him being not dead (his honor, if you want to make the little yellow ninja-bushido-KatanEvan connection)

Vinny is the only member of the crew who hasnt attempted suicide

According to CYSTW's HABIT posts "It will find a new shell if itsold shell is fatally wounded" (intestines ripped out? Yup, thats fatal)

This leads me to believe HABIT DOES NOT have healing powers, only the ability to fuck up a body to its furthest limits.

This means our boys or maybe Evan in particular is special, not that HABIT is magic

The Haunter hat was cute for representing something so evil

This means SOMETHING is special about the Hybrids or about Evan

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Lithp
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You're right, according to that, HABIT does not naturally possess healing powers. That said, there's also this part:

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The Habit is trying to make something, some kind of perfect shell to live in. The shell I saw it in died shortly after the fight but survived much more abuse than it should have. Just know, that if wounding its head or heart past a normal human beings limits doesn't kill it, you should run the fuck away.


So its abilities in this regard are increasing.

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ChildOfAtom wrote:

Lithp wrote:
Then there's the discrepancy between the "respawn theory" & the "repeated cycle" theory.


I think one is the overall cycle of the game, and the other is Slendy fucking around.


This is more elegant, or at least more parsimonious, than my working theory, which has been that the boys are unable to perma-die until their role in the Cycle is fulfilled.

So what is the title of the new video referring to? What has been realized, but too late to be put to use?

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WestRoadSal
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Mattwan wrote:
ChildOfAtom wrote:

Lithp wrote:
Then there's the discrepancy between the "respawn theory" & the "repeated cycle" theory.


I think one is the overall cycle of the game, and the other is Slendy fucking around.


This is more elegant, or at least more parsimonious, than my working theory, which has been that the boys are unable to perma-die until their role in the Cycle is fulfilled.

So what is the title of the new video referring to? What has been realized, but too late to be put to use?


Vince and Evan (Well at least Evan, Vince is still confused as hell but getting there) are REALIZING that they can't really die.

What they don't know (because they can't see anything too deep that refers to the fairmount four for wierd reasons) is what they have to do for this fairmount four prophecy to be fulfilled.

But if this is the case, why is it too late to be put to use? They can use the not-dying thing to their advantage, slenderman and habit are no longer threatening, considering they can't really kill them for all eternity, they come right back. T
This is completely shot though if they have a set number of lives.

P.S If Vince and Evan can't be killed, then where's Jeff and Steph?
They're part of the Fairmount Four right?
Maybe Vince and Evan are special?
Or maybe Jeff and Steph ran out of lives?

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Little_Socrates
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ChildOfAtom wrote:
What do you feel is out of date? Other than the line about not having seen any evidence for Alex reiterating (which we may have gotten in Next) everything seems fine. If anything the new video adds more evidence.

I literally just meant that it hasn't been updated in a while, and if there's any new evidence, it hadn't been posted. The most recent update to the page before this video was "The property," which carries very vague information. There's been a lot of theorizing about the Everyman play and Iteration Theory since then.

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Little_Socrates
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WestRoadSal wrote:
Mattwan wrote:
ChildOfAtom wrote:

Lithp wrote:
Then there's the discrepancy between the "respawn theory" & the "repeated cycle" theory.


I think one is the overall cycle of the game, and the other is Slendy fucking around.


This is more elegant, or at least more parsimonious, than my working theory, which has been that the boys are unable to perma-die until their role in the Cycle is fulfilled.

So what is the title of the new video referring to? What has been realized, but too late to be put to use?


Vince and Evan (Well at least Evan, Vince is still confused as hell but getting there) are REALIZING that they can't really die.

What they don't know (because they can't see anything too deep that refers to the fairmount four for wierd reasons) is what they have to do for this fairmount four prophecy to be fulfilled.

But if this is the case, why is it too late to be put to use? They can use the not-dying thing to their advantage, slenderman and habit are no longer threatening, considering they can't really kill them for all eternity, they come right back. T
This is completely shot though if they have a set number of lives.

P.S If Vince and Evan can't be killed, then where's Jeff and Steph?
They're part of the Fairmount Four right?
Maybe Vince and Evan are special?
Or maybe Jeff and Steph ran out of lives?

Both Jeff and Steph went by Evan's hand, presumably. Vinny and Evan have never been killed by another member of the Fairmount Four. Maybe that's the trick.

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