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Is the series snowballing into a anticlimatic ending?
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Ristar
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 		Is the series snowballing into a anticlimatic ending?
I gave the title a LOT of thinking, don't get me wrong. It contains all the loose ends from all the seasons, you will understand why i bring this up.
There is a TL;DR for lazy people.

S1:

What happened to the crew and Amy (Alex was not telling the truth on the video).
What is TO and what does he want with Alex, what are his powers and stuff. (Includes the dolls, cameras, symbols, etc.)
Who is exactly TTA?
What are Masky's motivations?
What is Jay purpose on the story (I'm not talking about why is he the narrator, obviously someone wants him for something).
Where is Alex nowadays?
What are Alex motivations?
What is TTA's purpose with Jay?
What is the Ark? (This has not been confirmed in anyway, it can be Alex, it can be a rainbow, nobody knows).

S2:

Where is Jessica, what was her purpose?
Who is Hoody and what was his purpose?
Where is Alex nowadays?
What happened with Bruce?
Why didn't Alex kill Jay in the thousands of times he had a chance?
What was the meaning of Alex's creepy story? (It seems to be some sort of TO backstory; but again, no confirmation).
What is the purpose of the tunnel?

If there is something that made this season great, is that Entry #52 wraps out most of it, left little questions and things unsolved.

S3:

Where was Tim teleported when he had the chest camera?
Why didn't Hoody kill Alex when he had the chance?
Alex seems to know Hoody's identity and doesn't flip out about it. Why?
Why did Alex burn some tapes and others gave them to Jay? (They just showed ONE single tape that talks about Amy, therefore he didn't burn them for that, or did you guys think that Alex would give Jay the tape where he chokes him?).
Why the sudden outburst of giving Jay the tapes and then choking him so TO can take him?
What happened on the tunnel with Alex and Hoody?
If Hoody was on the tunnel and Tim is with Jay, who uploaded TTA's Decline video?

General loose ends:

Constant use of water or references to it. (I allways thought this was some Constantine crap where they explain water is the universal conenctor between the worlds or something like that)
All the TTA's repeated signs (Slashes, water, dots, the same pair of eyes).
Where is Alex nowadays? (I know i said this on S1 but there has been nothing that puts Jay and Alex together in one place on a recent time).

TL;DR
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Think of all, both TTA and the main story loose ends.


Brings me to my thought. At the pace they upload the videos, and the HUGE amout of loose ends they have to answer, (Yes, if they bring up shit like this and makes us wonder for hours what does it means, then i want my damn answers) don't you think the series is pretty much going to be dead by the time all gets tied up?

I think unless they make like a 30 minute video explaining everything, (God no) we have like, 20 more entries to go through.

I just want to know if i'm the only one who thinks this way. Because after rewatching S2 and S3, we do not get into LOST territory, we get into something worse, and the amount of mistery we are getting drives a lot of people to stop caring about it and just think like ''Yeah, new entry, whatever'' instead of that mistery that brought a lot of people into the series and into this forum that we have nowadays.

In a series that is mainly about mistery more than horror, it would be stupid to left the mistery part unsolved. For those of you who think things are better unexplained.

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Geneaux486
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 		Doubtful. They know their own show and said they intend to answer all the questions.

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 		No. Although, your headcanon may get in the way of how the series actually progresses.

Repeat this mantra(courtesy of MST3k): "It's just a show, I should really just relax."

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 		Well, I think your post was really thought out--although you keep misspelling "mystery"--it must have been annoying to have typed all of that knowing that there's a good chance it would have been blown off completely.

I know they claim that they will answer all of the important questions, but that claim is always made, & rarely delivered on in full.

That said, I have to critique the list:

Spoiler (Rollover to View):
What happened to the crew and Amy (Alex was not telling the truth on the video).
What is TO and what does he want with Alex, what are his powers and stuff. (Includes the dolls, cameras, symbols, etc.)
Who is exactly TTA?
What are Masky's motivations?
What is Jay purpose on the story (I'm not talking about why is he the narrator, obviously someone wants him for something).
Where is Alex nowadays?
What are Alex motivations?
What is TTA's purpose with Jay?
What is the Ark? (This has not been confirmed in anyway, it can be Alex, it can be a rainbow, nobody knows).
ADDED: What was going on with that whole Masky teleported into Jay's room, Jay teleported out thing? Why hasn't that happened since?
ADDED: What was with that footage of Jay with dark circles around his eyes & The Operator waltzing down the hallway?

I crossed out "Where is Alex?" because it is a rather trivial background detail. We know he's "around Rosswood." We really don't need anything more specific. I crossed out "What is ToTheArk's purpose with Jay" because "What is Jay's purpose in the story" is a more comprehensive version of that same point.

S2:

Where is Jessica, what was her purpose?
Who is Hoody and what was his purpose?
Where is Alex nowadays?
What happened with Bruce?
Why didn't Alex kill Jay in the thousands of times he had a chance?
What was the meaning of Alex's creepy story? (It seems to be some sort of TO backstory; but again, no confirmation).
What is the purpose of the tunnel?

Alex attacked Bruce because he thought that someone was following him, & The Operator whisked the corpse away to some sort of negaverse. Nothing really to be explained there. Alex did not have many options to kill Jay AND make a clean getaway of it.

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If there is something that made this season great, is that Entry #52 wraps out most of it, left little questions and things unsolved.


Agreed.

S3:

Where was Tim teleported when he had the chest camera?
Why didn't Hoody kill Alex when he had the chance?
Alex seems to know Hoody's identity and doesn't flip out about it. Why?
Why did Alex burn some tapes and others gave them to Jay? (They just showed ONE single tape that talks about Amy, therefore he didn't burn them for that, or did you guys think that Alex would give Jay the tape where he chokes him?).
Why the sudden outburst of giving Jay the tapes and then choking him so TO can take him?
What happened on the tunnel with Alex and Hoody?
If Hoody was on the tunnel and Tim is with Jay, who uploaded TTA's Decline video?

Crossed some out here because I'm going to assume that there is no greater significance to them--for the purposes of this conversation, I want to focus on true loose ends, not things that may or may not be important. I don't think I'll add recent plot points, because in that road lies madness.

General loose ends:

Constant use of water or references to it. (I allways thought this was some Constantine crap where they explain water is the universal conenctor between the worlds or something like that)
All the TTA's repeated signs (Slashes, water, dots, the same pair of eyes).
Where is Alex nowadays? (I know i said this on S1 but there has been nothing that puts Jay and Alex together in one place on a recent time).
ADDED: Why does The Operator not seem to break into houses anymore?
ADDED: How come The Operator can never seem to capture Jay?


And you do have to bear in mind that several of these points are connected--an answer to "Who is Hoody?" will probably explain why Alex isn't shocked at who it is.

So, basically, they have a lot to answer for, but a satisfying resolution is entirely possible.

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Lithp wrote:

And you do have to bear in mind that several of these points are connected--an answer to "Who is Hoody?" will probably explain why Alex isn't shocked at who it is.

So, basically, they have a lot to answer for, but a satisfying resolution is entirely possible.


After seeing this it made me thing. What if that's their intention? Raise a large amount of questions, then do he Hoody reveal, and let the fans connect the dots ourselves?

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 		It is getting a little frustrating that new entries are raising just as many, if not more questions than they're answering. BUT. I do still have faith that they can turn this trend around and start giving us some answers. This season has explained Tim's masky state (somewhat) and we've started to get some implied explanations for how this all started, so we've gotten a few answers. Also I think Alex's motivation could go under general loose ends since we've never really known exactly why he's doing what he's doing, lol. Razz

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 		I highly doubt they'd go the Robert Altman route and leave us delightfully unsatisfied.

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 		How many of these threads do we usually get each month?
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Lithp wrote:
Well, I think your post was really thought out--although you keep misspelling "mystery"--it must have been annoying to have typed all of that knowing that there's a good chance it would have been blown off completely.

And you do have to bear in mind that several of these points are connected--an answer to "Who is Hoody?" will probably explain why Alex isn't shocked at who it is.

So, basically, they have a lot to answer for, but a satisfying resolution is entirely possible.


First of all, english is not my native language, so a few grammar mistakes can be found.

And yes, i have read the changes u made and i pretty much agree. There is a lot more than i thought to be answered. Although Hoody's reveal will only answer who he is and that's it. We already know is a member of the MH crew, we already know Alex try to kill everyone, so we got motivation there. In my opinion Hoody's reveal will be great but it won't have much to connect.

The thing about Masky is that we knew who he was WAY before his reveal in S2, we didn't understand why he acted the way he did, it was not until S3 where it was revealed that after having seizures he would turn into Masky or his backstory in the mental hospital. Hoody seems to be a reversed case of the previous one.

Ztakk wrote:


After seeing this it made me thing. What if that's their intention? Raise a large amount of questions, then do he Hoody reveal, and let the fans connect the dots ourselves?


I don't think it would help that much, because everyone has pretty much reasons to kill Alex, and TTA's cryptic style doesn't seem to fit anyone on the crew, it seems to fit a madman (Everyone got taken by TO), so if it is a MH castmember it's not going to be that much of a shocker to me. (Old lady is Hoody).

The Condor wrote:
How many of these threads do we usually get each month?


This is a forum where we discuss the entries and the series overall, you are allways going to see this kind of discussions as a thread itself or a simple conversation inside one.

Serum wrote:
I highly doubt they'd go the Robert Altman route and leave us delightfully unsatisfied.


Since they found the Pre-S1 tape holes, i'm hoping to see something interesting (They are NOT the Amy tapes, Alex just gave Jay the tapes where Alex doesn't lie and looks like a victim, because giving someone a tape where you are choking someone is not a good idea) that answers S1 and they move back to Hoody's business.

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 		Sadly, I think so. I don't see how they can answer all their questions and make everything fit together, even if they have an additional 20 entries.

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Magyk wrote:
Sadly, I think so. I don't see how they can answer all their questions and make everything fit together, even if they have an additional 20 entries.


Why not? They're in complete control of what goes into their entries, and how many entries they make, and they've stated one of their endgame goals as resolving the things that need to be resolved. It's not like, say, Lost that was only allowed so many forty minute segments in their final season to wrap everything up, all you really need to answer everything is willingness and time.

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 		We get like 6-7 filler entries for every entry that actually moves the plot anywhere. It's abundantly clear, if you're willing to look at it objectively and admit it, that they have no idea how to resolve everything so they're just making entries trying to feel out the end of the story - only with each entry, they dig themselves a deeper hole because they add more questions and give minimal answers.

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We get like 6-7 filler entries for every entry that actually moves the plot anywhere. It's abundantly clear, if you're willing to look at it objectively and admit it, that they have no idea how to resolve everything so they're just making entries trying to feel out the end of the story - only with each entry, they dig themselves a deeper hole because they add more questions and give minimal answers.


And that's something that really destroyed my interest on series like EMH where no one knows what the fuck is going on and you gotta follow like 3 different websites.

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 		I know what the fuck is going on, as far as what we've been told. I don't think MH is hard to follow or anything. I think that Troy & Co. don't have an ending lined up, or if they do, they don't know how to reach that ending in a way that makes sense. So now we get entry after entry of nothing as they try to crawl towards a resolution.

In their defense, the last few entries have felt like they are building towards something - but we've had this happen before and are always greeted with an anticlimactic entry, or an entry that doesn't answer anything and only gives us a dozen more question.

Hopefully they prove me wrong (really, I hope they do) but it seems like they have no idea where the fuck they're heading right now imo.

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Magyk wrote:
It's abundantly clear, if you're willing to look at it objectively and admit it, that they have no idea how to resolve everything so they're just making entries trying to feel out the end of the story


Except that contradicts what Troy's been saying about the writing process. And there's no evidence in the series to back up your assertion here in the first place (ie. you have no idea if these entries actually are "filler" because you haven't seen the series to its resolution. None of us have). What you've said here is the opposite of objective, it is completely subjective.

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