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How will it end?
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Slendermau5
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I think the tape in Tim's house is of what happened to Jessica. I think Tim is lying about not remembering things in his Masky state, and I think he remembers that he did something to Jessica after Entry 32 was posted (of course, he also tried to attack Jay but failed).

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Katsatitagain
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Jay and time will reunite, and then fight again then at the end I think Jay will meet up with Tim coincidentally, they will face Alex and the Operator because he seems to appear when Alex is there or in Alex related places. Tim will die during the fight leaving Jay to become the next focus of the Operator who will then do what Alex did and try to disappear, ending with TTA + Hoody, uploaded on Marble Hornets video standing over sleeping Jay with a message like "Humans can't be trusted. You lose." ending with a scream.


I feel like TTA/Hoody don't seem to be Operator hunted, so I feel like it could end this way. Sorry if its similar to someone else's.

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I don't think ToTheArk and Hoody are the same entity. In fact I think ToTheArk is, if anything, a group of unrelated entities.

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Serum wrote:
I don't think ToTheArk and Hoody are the same entity. In fact I think ToTheArk is, if anything, a group of unrelated entities.


Then why does what Hoody post when he hacks into the MH channel similar to what TTA posts?

Who filmed the footage of Jay sleeping in #39?

Hoody is at least affiliated with TTA.

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DHawk314
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I was about the ask him, does he believe Hoody didn't upload entries 61, 68, or 73, or does he believe Hoody uploaded them and that they're not totheark videos?
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Lithp
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How could a group that uses the same YouTube channel be composed of unrelated entities?

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DHawk314
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Also, what about observation? It was a totheark video. Right before it went up, screenshots from it were posted on Jay's Twitter. So presumably, whoever hacked Jay's Twitter put up the totheark video. Especially since Jay's Twitter linked the video after it went up. And then totheark kept posting on Jay's Twitter, until the next day Entry #61 went up, which was also linked. The link to it said "this is for you" and then the description of the video said "this is for you to see".

Also observation had footage of Tim from outside his window. And then Entry #61 Hoody climbs through the same window into Tim's room. I think it's hard to argue that the poster of the observer totheark video, the hacker of the Twitter, and the poster of 61 aren't all the same people. And I think it's very hard to argue that those people aren't Hoody, since Hoody clearly filmed Entry #61.

Also Hoody has appeared in a few totheark videos. And like ledzepfilm said, totheark has footage of Jay being filmed in his car before Jay was gonna go into Rosswood the next day. And then the next entry, Jay goes into Rosswood, totheark's response had totheark saying "I SAW YOU" and it had footage filmed in Rosswood. The overall implication, totheark was in Rosswood the day Jay went in. And we know Hoody was in there too, it was his first appearance.

There are other small hints. After Entry #45 where Hoody seems to run away from Slenderman there was Classified, where totheark says "I SAW IT". Masky appears in some totheark videos, Hoody and Masky are clearly affiliated. They both express a want to kill Alex.

Ya I agree with ledzepfilm, they're at least affiliated. Also, this is so late in the game, if it wasn't Hoody, they'd have to introduce this whole new character.
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Katsatitagain
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Serum wrote:
I don't think ToTheArk and Hoody are the same entity. In fact I think ToTheArk is, if anything, a group of unrelated entities.


If this was a response to me, thats why I said TTA+ Hoody. I think they are different, but working together. Muscle and Mind combination of sorts.

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JamesDiGriz
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I would be willing to bet that they (Tim, Jay, Alex... who knows who else) all figured out a way to beat the Operator, but that they needed to not know they were doing it in order for it to work (or some such). At the end of day, the hero must stumble across the answer at the right time, if the key player figures it out before the right time, the Operator will avoid the confrontation.

Series may also loop at the end, with them all getting wiped, and Jay driving his car having picked up a bunch of tapes from Alex...

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JamesDiGriz wrote:
I would be willing to bet that they (Tim, Jay, Alex... who knows who else) all figured out a way to beat the Operator, but that they needed to not know they were doing it in order for it to work (or some such). At the end of day, the hero must stumble across the answer at the right time, if the key player figures it out before the right time, the Operator will avoid the confrontation.

Series may also loop at the end, with them all getting wiped, and Jay driving his car having picked up a bunch of tapes from Alex...

Much as I hate loop endings (they could work but tend to be unsatisfactory), that could explain why it took three freaking years for Jay to watch the tapes the first time- if this has all happened before. I did once have an idea I liked that he watched them as soon as he got them but lost all memories of their contents at some point during those three years.

Of course, the loop wouldn't really work unless all the videos are erased at the end, or Jay would find the videos he already uploaded.

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Lithp
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TheJoker wrote:
JamesDiGriz wrote:
I would be willing to bet that they (Tim, Jay, Alex... who knows who else) all figured out a way to beat the Operator, but that they needed to not know they were doing it in order for it to work (or some such). At the end of day, the hero must stumble across the answer at the right time, if the key player figures it out before the right time, the Operator will avoid the confrontation.

Series may also loop at the end, with them all getting wiped, and Jay driving his car having picked up a bunch of tapes from Alex...

Much as I hate loop endings (they could work but tend to be unsatisfactory), that could explain why it took three freaking years for Jay to watch the tapes the first time- if this has all happened before. I did once have an idea I liked that he watched them as soon as he got them but lost all memories of their contents at some point during those three years.

Of course, the loop wouldn't really work unless all the videos are erased at the end, or Jay would find the videos he already uploaded.


They exist on another channel that nobody has found yet? He didn't start to upload the shit he did until the most recent--& I shudder to use this term--cycle?

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JamesDiGriz
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Maybe he is uploading this time to break the cycle? Don't know.

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SilentMedusa
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Holy crap, talk about being stuck in a loop of unhappiness.

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Sha Noran
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Jay does mention in 75 that he doesn't even really remember what he was doing with his life prior to starting the YouTube channel, so the looping theory isn't really all that wild. This would explain why Alex was caught up with the idea for the plot of MH (student film), even the line regarding the loop of unhappiness.

This would explain why all the characters seem to have hidden relic tapes that they keep of their actions, even when they commit crimes and insanity... Their only true hope is to even remember that this already happened. This also explains Alex's actions to a degree, as perhaps he realizes the loop is happening and decides to kill them all so that they don't have to do it any more. Ending the torture. Maybe they all took a suicide pact or made an agreement with Alex to end it and TO is interfering, using teleportation and mind wipes to keep his playthings/food alive longer to preserve the loop.

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That being said, I don't like the looping theory for the same reason some people don't like the time travel theory. TT did the time travel thing, and EMH has a lot of elements of the looping theories. It just feels almost like a cop out to go with what is almost a cliche at this point... I think MH is better than that. Given what a tangled web Trosephim have weaved for us, I don't think we're going to have a nice little clean "theory of everything" that explains everything all at once leaving us going "...oh."


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LJonesy
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Serum wrote:
abcetc wrote:
Amy was most likely taken hostage to keep Alex under TO control.
Jessica is more of a mystery. She's clearly there to get Jay to do something. It's not clear what.


I don't think Alex is under the Operator's control. If anything, it's the other way around, Alex encountered the Operator after being stalked by him, somehow captured it and is able to command it. Kind of like Bibidi and and Babidi in Dragon Ball Z commanded Majin Buu-- like, they could influence him, but eventually the Operator's going to do whatever it wants.

Alex is losing control of his little "pet"-- maybe that's why the one ToTheArk video said "control is being taken away from you." Or maybe Alex is just more resilient to slendersickness and is looking for a way of controlling the Operator. He's never shown signs of being a proxy the way Masky and Hoody have on certain occasions. That's just a theory I came up with right now.


I was always under the impression that Alex and TO were in league with each other, rather than someone being in charge. TO is a wild beast who needs direction, and Alex needs a weapon to do his dirty work. Both seem to benefit from the others actions, so they work together.

I'm always reminded of the scene in the tunnel where Alex calls and simply says "Leave, now" I suppose you could interpret that as Alex sending TO after them, but it felt more like a team effort between the two to attack Jay and Tim. Likewise, Entry #73 is a similar bait and attack. The Masky/Hoody/Alex fight also shows cooperation between Alex and TO, rather than any kind of summoning of TO, there's nothing to support the idea that TO manipulated Alex into being there to trap Masky/Hoody.

I've been wrong on a few things, but in these more recent entries there's definitely been some sign of relationship between Alex and TO. I can't comment about the earlier ones at the moment, is it Entry #25/29? one of them shows Alex as a victim, which is hard to explain, but it's very likely that the partnership simply hadn't formed then. Just my two scents.

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