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paladin181
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FossilizedSauce wrote:
The puzzle from Surveillance that was just recently got solved translated partly to: "truly your fault." I assume Jay is the one TTA is speaking to here?

And then in this entry, Tim is freaking out thinking this whole thing is his fault. TTA has frequently called on Jay to be the one "responsible" for this. "Look what you have caused," etc. So what has Jay done to make it his fault? Uploading the entries, I guess?
It's been speculated that many TTA entries have been to Tim, rather than Jay. It's not a stretch that the messages could be for him, and that this one may be no exception. TTA has a thing for both of them.

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TTA has frequently called on Jay to be the one "responsible" for this. "Look what you have caused," etc. So what has Jay done to make it his fault? Uploading the entries, I guess?


Jay has had TONS of memory loss himself. He has no idea what he has been doing during those times. We've seen him disappear from a room with a chair against the door, we've seen Masky "collect" him out of his room. It's safe to say he certainly has more of a part in this than just posting the videos. I notice he never points any of this out himself-he never speculates on what he does at these times.

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ReeseSparrow wrote:
elford wrote:
Tim says finally, "no more secrets."

So, did he not start the fire in his room? Is the fact that it is burned ( also that Jay's apt. got burned soon after Masky's visit and J's exit) insignificant to the story now?

Or does this tell us that he didn't start the fire?


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elford wrote:
Tim says finally, "no more secrets."

So, did he not start the fire in his room? Is the fact that it is burned ( also that Jay's apt. got burned soon after Masky's visit and J's exit) insignificant to the story now?

Or does this tell us that he didn't start the fire?


Maybe he did it but he does not remember that to happen? It is a possibility.


paladin181 wrote:
FossilizedSauce wrote:
The puzzle from Surveillance that was just recently got solved translated partly to: "truly your fault." I assume Jay is the one TTA is speaking to here?

And then in this entry, Tim is freaking out thinking this whole thing is his fault. TTA has frequently called on Jay to be the one "responsible" for this. "Look what you have caused," etc. So what has Jay done to make it his fault? Uploading the entries, I guess?
It's been speculated that many TTA entries have been to Tim, rather than Jay. It's not a stretch that the messages could be for him, and that this one may be no exception. TTA has a thing for both of them.


I always thought that the fact of the screen full of "????" after and while that "truly your fault" thig, meaned that it was a question and not an accusation. I can be wrong, but I think it makes sense.
So, if I'm right it should be readed as "Truly your fault?"
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 		Re: Tim didn't escape
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I don't think Tim escaped from the hospital like he said he did. I think he was Slendy-napped. Anyone who knows anything about mental hospitals knows you don't just escape from them. I think he would have had to have some outside help, IE, The Operator.


Tim's monologue also cements the theory that TO can choose who sees him in my opinion. Tim was diagnosed with all sorts of conditions that can be attributed to seeing TO, but the doctors couldn't him but Tim could. That's the exact definition of a hallucination, seeing something that no one else can see, and it's been said multiple times Tim had hallucinations.


Tim never said he escaped from the hospital he said he was eventually transferred and later released.

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 		Re: Tim didn't escape
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Ztakk wrote:
I don't think Tim escaped from the hospital like he said he did. I think he was Slendy-napped. Anyone who knows anything about mental hospitals knows you don't just escape from them. I think he would have had to have some outside help, IE, The Operator.


Tim's monologue also cements the theory that TO can choose who sees him in my opinion. Tim was diagnosed with all sorts of conditions that can be attributed to seeing TO, but the doctors couldn't him but Tim could. That's the exact definition of a hallucination, seeing something that no one else can see, and it's been said multiple times Tim had hallucinations.


Tim never said he escaped from the hospital he said he was eventually transferred and later released.
He said he broke out repeatedly and they kept bringing him back.

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 		Re: Tim didn't escape
paladin181 wrote:
Serum wrote:
Ztakk wrote:
I don't think Tim escaped from the hospital like he said he did. I think he was Slendy-napped. Anyone who knows anything about mental hospitals knows you don't just escape from them. I think he would have had to have some outside help, IE, The Operator.


Tim's monologue also cements the theory that TO can choose who sees him in my opinion. Tim was diagnosed with all sorts of conditions that can be attributed to seeing TO, but the doctors couldn't him but Tim could. That's the exact definition of a hallucination, seeing something that no one else can see, and it's been said multiple times Tim had hallucinations.


Tim never said he escaped from the hospital he said he was eventually transferred and later released.
He said he broke out repeatedly and they kept bringing him back.


Right, that doesn't constitute "escape." To "escape," means you get away from something permanently-- to break out means you break out with the possibility of getting brought back in.

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 		if there is one thing this forum is terrible at, it's tying in TTA video messages to the entries...

even though Tim said it was his fault we have, "truly your fault" and "I am Watching" which definitely meant hoody knew what he was doing.

I wonder why they didn't return to that door Tim freaked out over in 65

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 		The entirety of the information concerning Entry #66 on the Marble hornets Wiki:

Entry #66 was posted on November 19th, 2012
It has the description "66".
In total, this clip is 13:49 minutes long.

In this entry Tim and Jay re-enter the abandoned hospital and Tim tells Jay of his past.

I know it was just posted yesterday but that description is hilarious. It's like they watched half the entry and were like "fuck it...Tim says some stuff".

edit: Also the date. What the fuck?
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 		In the video, Tim mentions that Brian was "the first real friend I remember having" after mentioning, in regards to his delusions, that "maybe I just didn't want them to [go away] at the time". Perhaps the relationship between Tim and whatever plagued him in his youth, assumedly TO, is more complex than merely antagonizer and victim. It could be that TO came to Tim at a vulnerable time in his life, formed some strange relationship, and then it got too intense for Tim and he wanted out and began trying to run and hide.

Another observation I made what that Tim said that he "got transferred to another facility" after he got slightly better due to his meds and was able to go to a normal school. While this could imply that it must have been rather bad to begin with for an improvement to simply land him in a different facility (though that could be location motivated), it also seems as though he never went back home. If he was essentially abandoned by his parents, then why wouldn't he trust TO, even if it's scary as hell. When you're a kid, you can rationalize things you cannot as an adult.

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 		I don't know how legit this theory is, but just hear me out. I've heard other people mention this before, but I don't think anyone took it seriously.

What if Jay really is TTA? What makes me think that is because in Entry 66, Tim seems so shaken up that Hoody just disappeared, but Jay seems abruptly calm. As if he wanted Tim to calm down and not do anything rash. He tries to mention the tape as if that would help Tim out, but it's not doing anything for him.

This would be one of the biggest twists that they could do, in my opinion. Have the person/people who are assumed to be the Operators best friends forever be the people whose perspective we have been with since the beginning. This could mean that Alex is actually a good guy, but not necessarily.

I can't really make much more sense of this theory, but it would be an interesting twist, in all reality.

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SaigoSentinel wrote:
I don't know how legit this theory is, but just hear me out. I've heard other people mention this before, but I don't think anyone took it seriously.

What if Jay really is TTA? What makes me think that is because in Entry 66, Tim seems so shaken up that Hoody just disappeared, but Jay seems abruptly calm. As if he wanted Tim to calm down and not do anything rash. He tries to mention the tape as if that would help Tim out, but it's not doing anything for him.

This would be one of the biggest twists that they could do, in my opinion. Have the person/people who are assumed to be the Operators best friends forever be the people whose perspective we have been with since the beginning. This could mean that Alex is actually a good guy, but not necessarily.



I can't really make much more sense of this theory, but it would be an interesting twist, in all reality.


Well the problem here is that TTA seemingly has access to footage and information that Jay does not. While that can be explained by his memory lapses, I find it unlikely that Jay secretly videotaped himself retrieving a new tape from Alex's car, hid the footage, then blacked out and became his other persona, remembered it posted it online, then stashed the tape again just to fuck with himself. It seems WAYY too convoluted, even by TTA's measures.
To me, it seems more just like Jay's M.O. He typically doesn't get worked up over things he can't do anything about. And Hoody....Hoody has always been very IDGAF about everything he does.

Also: after watching it again, the room where hoody leaves the tape is indeed the room with "Follow me" and "He is a liar" written on the walls...maybe there is something significant about this room, or he was going to use it as a clue to lead Jay to the tape.
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 		Oh for the love of god

JAY CAN NOT BE TOTHEARK

TOTHEARK HAS FILMED JAY FROM BEHIND NUMEROUS TIMES

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pravado wrote:
Oh for the love of god

JAY CAN NOT BE TOTHEARK

TOTHEARK HAS FILMED JAY FROM BEHIND NUMEROUS TIMES


Is it that time of night again? When pravado get's all mad?
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