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paladin181
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BranRainey wrote:
GnomonRose wrote:
Oh by the way, the only way that Tim got Jay to agree to go to the hospital before (when they met "downtown" with all the trucks) was by promising that they would try to find Jessica. However, they sort of forgot about it, it seems--both of them. They haven't mentioned her for a while. 


They haven't forgotten Jessica at all. >_> She's been mentioned repeatedly this season. She's mentioned in this entry, even. Be disappointed that there's been no progress towards "saving" her if you want, but she's nowhere near forgotten.

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Tim seemed to feel it was imperative that they both go to the hospital and that room to tell the truth about his having lived as a patient there. It might be a psychological need of his, but with all the danger and stuff, it seems he could have made an exception if that were the case. It may be that Tim wanted to do something more and was steeling himself for it, but then had a bit if "I can't go on just now" and then got distracted by Hoody. 
I don't know, I just feel like I wanted to say SOMETHING about this, I don't like it to be undermotivated.

I don't think there is a real reason for Tim to have brought Jay to the hospital. It's just movie logic; characters going somewhere dramatic instead of sensible. There could be a better reason, but I doubt it. Marble Hornets hasn't bothered much with trying to seem plausibly realistic since season 1 ended.
Agreed. as I stated before, Jessica's last name could be MacGuffin, as Jay is hunting her and doesn't even really know why anymore.

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Camero
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 		Hey man, he's got to save the princess! I heard that if you beat Marble Hornets without taking any brain damage, you get to see her in a bikini!

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GnomonRose wrote:

Possibly, Hoody's motivation about "he lies" and all was to prevent Jay from wanting to partner with Tim, but that failed if so. Or possibly the motive was to give Jay enough of a clue to force the issue and demand that Tim reveal the truth, which has happened, though it was so much an anti-revelation that anticlimax loses flavour when we apply the term to that.
I figure it is important to get a clearer idea of what Hoody really wants...for Tim and Jay to cooperate, or to NOT cooperate? We just don't know.


Just a thought, and it's probably not right but I thought I'd share it. Maybe the video is Tim burning down Jay's apartment from clear back at the beginning? I mean it was never stated who did it, everyone just assumed it was TO. It could be video of Tim as Masky doing it and Hoodie is showing Jay to drive a wedge between the two of them.

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 		Jay said it's because he feels responsible for dragging her into the situation, so I guess he feels duty bound to find out what happened to her. I personally don't buy that though. Jessica would have eventually realized that Amy didn't just waltz off somewhere with Alex. After a few more months of no contact Jessica probably would've started demanding answers from Alex and might've ended up getting fed to TO as well.

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 		His guilt isn't really logical, but then again, guilt (& Jay) rarely is. I just take anything he says as trying to rationalize his own feelings.

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Lithp wrote:
His guilt isn't really logical, but then again, guilt (& Jay) rarely is. I just take anything he says as trying to rationalize his own feelings.


Are you saying Jay is a sociopath? Because I don't think I totally disagree with that... I mean, it is his fault that the Operator came back. Alex told him to burn the tapes-- but no, he had to upload them and the creepy footage contained on them and unleash the mystical power of the Operator and his holy demons.

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 		I thought for SURE that
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Jay was hoody...

Oh well. Overall a good episode, with positives for the high tension throughout - scariest yet of the episodes without the operator - and the advancement of the Jay-Tim relationship. Negatives in that it became one of those episodes where you end up yelling at the screen, "WHY DON'T YOU JUST ________ IT'S SO OBVIOUS!" and the lack of any meaningful resolution at the end of the episode, but I loved it anyway.

In response to everyone saying there wasn't any reason they had to go to the hospital to have that conversation at the beginning, remember that Tim also wanted to find records.

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 		There's no reason to discuss if it was useful to go there or not. Tim himself said that he knew that they were missing something there and he didn't want to return to that place.

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MHfrogger wrote:
In response to everyone saying there wasn't any reason they had to go to the hospital to have that conversation at the beginning, remember that Tim also wanted to find records.

Yeah, no. Tim could reasonably expect to find nothing there because his records were already found. Also, the place burned down and was abandoned; Any medical records were either lost in the fire or taken to where-ever they shipped any surviving patients. There was no reason not to tell Jay in some random parking lot about his mental history.

I'm thinking Tim somehow coordinated this with Hoody. Tim guides Jay into the records cabinet, from which they "accidently" spot Hoody, who seems to be waiting for them. Hoody leads them to the tape - in a remarkably slow pace at which it would be impossible to lose him - and then takes off. Tim takes the initiative in the chase and runs towards an open field. Really Tim, you expect to find hem there? No, of course not. Tim is letting Hoody get away. They are in cohoots somehow.
I'm guessing Hoody promised something of value for Tim will be on the tape.

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ieisuk
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 		I haven't seen this brought up yet, but Hoodie knows how to hide i. those woods. We've seen this before. Why is everyone shocked that he got away? If anything, Hoody said in the last TTA vid.

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paladin181
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MHfrogger wrote:
I thought for SURE that
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Jay was hoody...

Oh well. Overall a good episode, with positives for the high tension throughout - scariest yet of the episodes without the operator - and the advancement of the Jay-Tim relationship. Negatives in that it became one of those episodes where you end up yelling at the screen, "WHY DON'T YOU JUST ________ IT'S SO OBVIOUS!" and the lack of any meaningful resolution at the end of the episode, but I loved it anyway.

In response to everyone saying there wasn't any reason they had to go to the hospital to have that conversation at the beginning, remember that Tim also wanted to find records.
Nah .He tacked that on as though he thought of it later. He had to make sure hoody had the tape. He's still working with the bastard, and only gave chase to give the illusion of discord.

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Lithp
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Serum wrote:
Lithp wrote:
His guilt isn't really logical, but then again, guilt (& Jay) rarely is. I just take anything he says as trying to rationalize his own feelings.


Are you saying Jay is a sociopath? Because I don't think I totally disagree with that... I mean, it is his fault that the Operator came back. Alex told him to burn the tapes-- but no, he had to upload them and the creepy footage contained on them and unleash the mystical power of the Operator and his holy demons.


No? I mean, maybe, but I'm not sure how you got that from me.

Also, we don't technically know why The Operator came back, & at the very least, Jay couldn't have been expected to know that he was going to release a faceless, well-dressed monster ahead of time.

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pravado
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 		I wonder if they'll ever reveal tim's motives as masky

Maybe strap a chest cam on him and don't let him take his pills and see where he goes..

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pravado wrote:
I wonder if they'll ever reveal tim's motives as masky

Maybe strap a chest cam on him and don't let him take his pills and see where he goes..

You say that as if once he turns into Masky he becomes s thumbless airhead. From everything we've seen masky retains his intelligence, and since he obviously doesn't want his motives known, he would just take the chest can off.
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 		I'm newly registered but have been following the fan theories on here for a while now.

I was hugely disappointed by this entry. I honestly would have preferred the earlier style 3 minutes of filming leaves on the ground entry, if they want filler. I felt like it was an "in case you haven't been paying attention" episode, which stuck me as out of keeping with the general feel of the series.

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