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TallulahBelle
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 		Oh, now I suddenly understand the triangle on Aidens blog.
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amandel
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 		OH, nice catch TBelle! Did you email Winter for your key/symbol? Laughing b/c I got the (Peter) Gabriel archangel for my Phil Collins' song. And before it gets too wacko again:

In reply to my asking about her missing colleague Anna Collins wrote:
Actually, she is a literature professor like myself. Thanks for your good wishes.

ETA: Dr. Ellershaw's daughter is named Jewel. Is she maybe the mysterious blogger J.E.? ((am thinking Yaha Smile ))
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TallulahBelle
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amandel wrote:
OH, nice catch TBelle! Did you email Winter for your key/symbol? Laughing b/c I got the (Peter) Gabriel archangel for my Phil Collins' song. And before it gets too wacko again:

In reply to my asking about her missing colleague Anna Collins wrote:
Actually, she is a literature professor like myself. Thanks for your good wishes.


Haha, I was working down the Peter Gabriel line with the cypher for a while Smile


Edit: Got my key. Number 4. Fire. Salamander. Aiden. Swords.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 27, 2013 3:38 pm
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S.P.I.
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 		And I'm lost...pg 54 and 55 deals with a cipher given to amandel for a song which equals an archangel and then people grabbing the elements...?

Laughing

And yay, we know who J.E. is now. ^.^
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 27, 2013 7:32 pm
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Sarah B
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 		Wow, I feel lost, lol. Not just you, S.P.I. Smile

For the record, Lawler isn't a keeper of anything, Winter confirmed to me via email.
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Elethamei
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 		I got a key too, the earth symbol. On my phone, so can't attach it. I was feeling a little lost too, but I think I'm back on track now Smile I don't even remember everything that has happened recently, but you have covered a lot of stuff, so brownies for everyone! Brownie Brownie Brownie

Edit// Hey, in the Etymology post, it says "Email us with the word "pasch" in the subject line." What happened when you did that? I didn't try it, because I didn't know what we're suppose to email them and I didn't want to email just "Pasch. Hi."

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Adm_BlackCat
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 		My key is the Alchemical Water Symbol, same as amandel.
I also asked if we are really being prepared for war?
Winter wrote:
Preparing for war? Yes, in a sense. But not the kind of war you're thinking of.

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S.P.I.
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Elethamei wrote:
I got a key too, the earth symbol. On my phone, so can't attach it. I was feeling a little lost too, but I think I'm back on track now Smile I don't even remember everything that has happened recently, but you have covered a lot of stuff, so brownies for everyone! Brownie Brownie Brownie

Edit// Hey, in the Etymology post, it says "Email us with the word "pasch" in the subject line." What happened when you did that? I didn't try it, because I didn't know what we're suppose to email them and I didn't want to email just "Pasch. Hi."


It's really only page 54 to 55 that I'm a little unsure on -- how we got from here to there - from there to here -- that sort of thing.

As for the etymology post, I e-mailed them with the subject line "Pasch", only I included something in the message. I am going to try again with just the subject line this time. I'll let you know if anything changes (I doubt it, but it couldn't hurt). I haven't received anything from the e-mail I sent already, to be clear.

Thank you for the brownies Very Happy

@Sarah B: Thanks for confirming Lawler's Keeper status, Sarah B, and yay, I'm not alone in this forest of posts! Dunce

Now just for completion's sake, not because it is especially useful, I will include my e-mails back and forth with Anna in this post:

Anna wrote:
My husband is having dreams again and one of my colleagues may be missing. If any of this ends up being related to the Keeper mission I am OUT.


My response to Anna:

S.P.I. wrote:
Oh my stars! Did you contact the authorities about your missing colleague? Did you put up posters? Is there something I can do to help? I know a few people -- I could get the word out? Maybe I could distribute a picture of this colleague around my area?

Sorry. I'm probably intruding. I do that.

So about these dreams -- is dreaming so bad? It's important for rest to dream. Or are they other dreams? Dreams of sleeping gods and dark passengers?

Curiously,

~S.P.I.~


Anna responds back:

Anna wrote:
The dreams are about me, the life I am living and the life I was meant to live.

The authorities have conducted a thorough investigation. They have found no evidence of a crime.

Thank you for your concern and offers of help. The kindness of strangers is like the delicate piecework on a soft quilt.


I counter with a questionnaire:

S.P.I. wrote:
Is it weird that quilts of that nature remind me of cards and card games? I guess that is silly of me, but true.

At any rate, you're welcome! Shame about your friend -- what I have to say is -- trust your instincts. Your husband and your colleague -- you know what is happening and what has happened to them.

I also don't think that you need to live your life in a way other than the way you're leaving now. But, if at any time you want to change, to do things differently, that is okay, too. It's just a little more difficult, he he.

Now, I have to wonder what else is going on here. What should I be aware of that I'm not aware of? Why have we been recruited? Who should I trust? What should I be wary of? What are your intentions? Would you describe yourself as nice? Some of the other keepers worry that something terrible happened in your past to change you into a bad person.

But you just seem so wonderful.

Then there is this whole elements business...scroll of the elements...Tarrochi...


~S.P.I.~


The final response from Anna came in an e-mail entitled "trust" (lower-case):

Anna wrote:
I have to admit, I've never been asked if I'm nice, ha ha. I would say I'm nice. My students may beg to differ, lol.

As for my past, yes, there have been dark moments in which I have done what is necessary to survive. But I think I would draw more criticism for what I DIDN'T do, rather than for what I did no. In other words, it isn't so much that I turned dark and evil as that I turned indifferent to the cause.

History is dark and deep and complicated and layered. It can be difficult to know which is the side of right, because history is always written by the victorious.

If you do what your heart tells you to do you are usually on the right track.

As for what you are being trained to do, it is really not my place to say. I am guessing Winter wants you to have more training first.


So, at least according to herself here, Anna hasn't gone over to the Dark Side. Not even for the cookies. Or the jackets. Instead, she's fallen into the Aloof Side, which only gives its members elevator music to listen to while they linger. Laughing

I could e-mail her some more, potentially. I think I'll wait on that.
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TallulahBelle
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Elethamei wrote:
I got a key too, the earth symbol. On my phone, so can't attach it. I was feeling a little lost too, but I think I'm back on track now Smile I don't even remember everything that has happened recently, but you have covered a lot of stuff, so brownies for everyone! Brownie Brownie Brownie

Edit// Hey, in the Etymology post, it says "Email us with the word "pasch" in the subject line." What happened when you did that? I didn't try it, because I didn't know what we're suppose to email them and I didn't want to email just "Pasch. Hi."


The airplane image, suggesting east, air and Jenna.
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S.P.I.
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 		Okay, before anyone wastes valuable time trying to help me understand what is going on, I just want to let you all know that I am no longer lost. I sent in the key that I needed. I figured the vigenere out! It was awesome! And by "figured it out" I mean, I read all of yours instructions on how to solve it and figured it out that way. He he.

Thanks for all the help! Cool
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mrshomersimpson
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 		right well ... thats me lost now... lol

im gonna need to try and iron this out a bit in my head

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Elethamei
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 		Okay, thanks Tal!

I wonder what is the next challenge if the goal/fear thing was a pre-challenge.

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pia ward
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 		Thanks for everyone's help! I am a slow keeper.
Pony?! Pony?! Pony?! Pony?!

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S.P.I.
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 		Okay so the confusion (for me) came with the very separate nature of this most recent solve. This post will serve to put them all together, step by step, so that it becomes a little more clear what happened in the last few pages.

Firstly, Amandel was humming a tune OOG and decided to tweet it to Aiden IG:

amandel wrote:
Am so unsure, HP. Sorry. Was humming a fav tune after those *heebie-jeebie* updates & tweeted it to Aiden. He's replied on his blog with a jpeg of an 'archangel' & cipher. Heading into traffic now. Cyas...


^--- As can be seen here, Aiden's character responded on the befiresafe blog with an image of the archangel. Along with this image came a CIPHER.
(the post can be found here: http://befiresafe.blogspot.com/2013/03/something-in-air-for-amandel.html)

Some time after this post, T-Belle popped in to alert Amandel of a recent TWITTER FEED UPDATE Aiden made in relation to Amandel:

TallulahBelle wrote:
You've seen the tweet from Aiden to you, Amandel?

Quote:
Something In the Air (for Amandel)



vvpvmrhgfdxcfltowwgfltcyrbbvcm

evpnsvfywesevfvsc

rttzwlemdsxknzatpcyrt

wajlaytzqvxnrvyzdizrziqnxfemrggc



^--- this TWEET was a link back to the blog post already mentioned in amandel's above post (the one with the archangel image and the cipher). The cipher noted in T-Belle's post above is the very same cipher as the one in Aiden's blog.

Down below, in HappyPhantom's post, HappyPhantom attempts to solve the archangel cipher. HP discovers the password, noted in spoiler tags here:

HappyPhantom wrote:
Spoiler (Rollover to View):
a vignere with 'collins' as a key gives you:

thekeepersmustrallystrongtoday

tkhaatrnlwfmtrkhu

ebrllawzlqjzcrnbnongl

jihxpnlmytjcgnlhbuogrvyljuteeoeo



only the first part makes sense I will play around with it more if I can


^--- HP experiences mixed results, however, thus the cipher solving isn't over yet.

Onward, pia uncovers the true nature of the archangel, that being:

pia ward wrote:
Amandel's archangel is

Spoiler (Rollover to View):
Gabriel http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Archangel_Gabriel_%28Nea_Moni%29.jpg


^-- I belive Pia put a spoiler over this url in case the name of the archangel turned out to be significant to solving a cipher/the cipher somehow.

Continuing still, amandel solves the second line in the cipher from Aiden's blog:

amandel wrote:
THX Pia. HP. Think it's gotta be done line for line with maybe 2 keys. The 2nd line looks important so am posting just that before heading home:

Spoiler (Rollover to View):
PW is 'collins': check in with Winter


^-- amandel proposes here that the cipher has to be done line by line. This is true. Only, the first key discovered by HappyPhantom in the spoiler tags above was sufficient for all FOUR lines.

Boobla's post helps with that:

booba wrote:
Hi everyone!

Spoiler (Rollover to View):
For the last two lines switch from "decode" to "encode"


^-- essentially here, Boobla states that a different method must be used with the same password.

Gathering the mysteries of the four ciphers together, we have the message:

Spoiler (Rollover to View):


The keepers must rally strong today

Check in with Winter

The keyword is archangel

You will be given another key in return


Ta-da! After sending in the keyword, I received the alchemical symbol for FIRE:



^-- you will receive your very own alchemical symbol (an image of one of the four classical elements) upon sending in the keyword.

Amandel was given WATER, Seadevil was given AIR, T-Belle was given FIRE, Elethamei was given EARTH, and Adm was given WATER.

Okay! I hope this helps! All credit for the solve is given to the people I quoted (I merely compile this list of events for clarity's sake; I deserve no credit of my own).
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 		Thanks S.P.I

cleared up the confusion in my head and now im back with it!

Smile

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